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Sep-29-12 | | solskytz: After ...Kg6 there is Rg5+ with Rg3, maybe creating some chances (although of course the black rook can go to c2, and threaten the knight with his bishop thereafter... I don't see how Aronian wins this) |
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Sep-29-12 | | hugogomes: It's up to 5h now. |
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Sep-29-12 | | kia0708: 5 hours ... wow
I wonder whom the play next |
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Sep-29-12 | | hugogomes: This is the last round of the tournament in Sao Paulo. |
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Sep-29-12 | | Gypsy: <DoubleAction: It just amazes me these two can think clearly after 4 hrs and so little time on their clocks ...> Well, Aronian does not seem thinking completely clearly any more. |
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Sep-29-12 | | YouRang: Looks like Caruna did succeed in salvaging the draw -- although he got some help from <55.h6+?>. |
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Sep-29-12 | | hugogomes: Drawn. Good job Caruana! |
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Sep-29-12 | | solskytz: Draw agreed! |
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Sep-29-12 | | AuN1: draw :-D |
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Sep-29-12 | | whiteshark: Draw agreed! |
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Sep-29-12 | | ChessWriter: Draw! Yes, Fabio! |
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Sep-29-12 | | varishnakov: Wow. Two games in a row. Aronian must be feeling awful now. |
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Sep-29-12 | | Michael1234567891011: wow...you have to admire levon for fighting so hard under such time pressure in a position where he had such small winning chances |
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Sep-29-12
 | | chessgames.com: Thanks to everybody for participating in today's live broadcasts. Please note that the Bilbao Masters is on break until October 8th, as the participants fly to Bilbao, Spain for the remaining rounds. The London Grand Prix has a rest day tomorrow, and will resume Monday morning at 9:00 USA/Eastern. Hope to see you then! |
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Sep-29-12 | | Alesavio: Well Rxg7?! and h6?! are dubious from Aronian but Caruana has conducted an enervating struggle and a ipertenacious defence after the dubious ...g6-g5 in the middle-game. |
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Sep-29-12
 | | Peligroso Patzer: <kia0708: *** I wonder whom the[y] play next> Full schedule for this tournament can be found here: http://www.2700chess.com/live.php They are taking a break to travel to Spain. Round 6 is scheduled to be played October 8 at 1430 GMT, with these pairings: Vallejo vs. Anand
Karjakin vs. Aronian
Carlsen vs. Caruana |
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Sep-29-12 | | Everett: <messachess: So, this game is all about nerves. I thought is was all about brains.> It's both, of course, and whoever has played this game knows it's true. BTW, looks like <43.Ne4> is a bit of a crusher. |
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Sep-29-12 | | messachess: OK. Come on; Come on. Who has the full analysis showing how Aronian could have won? |
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Sep-29-12 | | mrbasso: I don't but my guess is: 40.Re1 is an easy win. |
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Sep-30-12 | | csmath: Move 55. h6 is really crap but it is not easy to find win in that position. Play it out against engine and try to see if you can find the win. I could not find the win. Lesson: never throw away strong moves because of simplifications that "look good" unless you clearly calculated the win. Aronian did that couple of times in the game here so he "lost" the win deservingly so. This is chess justice at its finest. |
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Sep-30-12
 | | scormus: <CG> thanks for featuring this fascinating battle. A very sharp play developed from 22 ... g5. Once again Fabio's plan B saved him in a game he always looked like coming 2nd. |
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Sep-30-12 | | Eyal: Aronian missed a rather direct win on move 40 – instead of bringing the knight back to c3 via e4, he could have played <40.Re1!> (threatening 41.Re8+ Bf8 42.Rxf4) 40...Rd8 41.Rg4! with Ne6 to follow – Black has to exchange his LSB for this knight and so doesn’t get anything even close to the counterplay that he got in the actual game. A few moves later, <43.Ne4!> (threatening Nf6+, Nh5+ and Nxg7) also seems to win by force – the critical line is 43...Rf7 44.Rxf7 Kxf7 45.Nd6+ Kf8 46.Re1! (threatening mate on e8, so there's no time for a3) followed by 47.Re8+ & 48.Ra8. After 43.Nxa4 Kh7(!) the threat of Bh6 is very unpleasant – there is still a forced win by <44.Rh4+!> but that’s already computer-stuff: 44…Bh6+ 45.f4 Bxa4 46.Re1! (with the threat of Re6) Bb3 47.Re3! to be followed by Reh3, regaining the piece (Rg7-g6 loses the bishop on b3); or 46...Rg7 47.Kb2! (now preventing Bb3, and also preparing to meet Rg6 with f5). After 44.Rxg7+ the win is already very difficult. It’s certainly possible that had Aronian not blundered with 55.h6+? (probably counting on 56.Nxc6 Bxc6 57.Rf6+, missing the intermediate 56...Kg5!) but kept torturing Caruana with slow maneuvering, he would eventually have found a way, but it’s difficult to see anything forced if Black manages to defend accurately. For example, if 55.Ng4 (which was suggested) then Black can play 55...Rb1+ 56.Kc3 (if the king goes to the a-file then Rb5 wins the c5 pawn) 56...Rb3+ 57.Kd4 Rxf3 and after the rook exchange I don’t quite see how White is winning this (58.h6+ Kh8! rather than Kh7? or Kg8? which lose to 59.Nf6+). |
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Sep-30-12 | | Alesavio: As usual Eyal has spotted the key points of the game! Bravo! Caruana, against the world number one and two, has played very hard games, long and difficult. He won the first and drew the second in a very "rocambolesque" manner: 4 points instead of 0! The secret? Well, in his book "The art of chess analysis" Jan Timman, commenting the game Korchnoi-Karpov Game 11 of Moscow match 1974, writes apropos of Karpov style:
"Holding a position when one stands better is an art-or rather a tecnique-that many modern grandmasters have mastered. But the power to hold a position that is slightly worse is possessed only by the absolute greatest. Among them, Fischer was a shining example. In a lost position against Matulovic in 1970 Interzonal tournament, for istance, he avoided a draw by repetition of moves". Well I think that Caruana is a perfect example of this: Fischer, Karpov, also Lasker, Botvinnik and Korchnoi itself, a gotha of modern chess! Fabiano is young but his places among the greatest is now secured. |
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Sep-30-12 | | kia0708: Thanks Peligroso
<Full schedule for this tournament can be found here: http://www.2700chess.com/live.php> |
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Sep-30-12 | | Ulhumbrus: The result suggests that after emerging two pawns down Caruana was right to not exchange his remaining bishop for White's knight |
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