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| Jan-12-13 | | beenthere240: To answer my question of a few moves back -- take the heavy pieces off the board and who wins? Nobody. |
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| Jan-12-13 | | DcGentle: Too bad, there was more possible than a draw. |
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Jan-12-13
 | | SteinitzLives: Look at the pieces all being on one color of square. Pawn structure won't matter. |
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Jan-12-13
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| Jan-12-13 | | Ulhumbrus: <xthred: I'm sure you guys know best, but how can this be a draw with White's superior pawn structure?> Here is one way: White's advantage is barely insufficient to win. |
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| Jan-12-13 | | DcGentle: Carlsen bungled it. 28 a4? Never. |
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| Jan-12-13 | | achieve: Pardon me, but if carlsen plays like this in the candidates he will never win it. NEVER! My predictions rarely come true, though. |
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| Jan-12-13 | | Pedro Fernandez: I lament this game were the first one as I gave 1. Carlsen, 2. Caruana. |
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| Jan-12-13 | | sofouuk: <DcGentle: Carlsen bungled it. 28 a4? Never>come on. it would have taken super accurate play just to create winning chances, never mind an actual win |
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| Jan-12-13 | | DcGentle: <sofouuk>: Maybe I am a bit harsh, but White had other options here. He just miscalculated, that's it. |
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Jan-12-13
| | SteinitzLives: This is an imbalanced field with some lower rated or less talented players in it, who will be tail-enders and give up points to many. I won't mention names. This makes the top players like Caruana, Carlsen, Anand, Aronian and Nakas' plans to win it different. Conserve energy, draw with eachother, only risking if needed or opportunity provides, and then kick butt on everyone else below, piling up the points. Whoever whips up best on the below 2750 group wins. |
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| Jan-12-13 | | DcGentle: <SteinitzLives>: Could be, but this strategy is risky as well, because if one of the "big guns" wins against another one, that could already be decisive for the overall win. |
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| Jan-12-13 | | lost in space: A few strange white moves in this game. 18. Rb1-b2 is bad a was corrected one move later (19. Rb2-b1). In addition 28. a4 is mysterious. Achieves nothing, make the own bishop worse. More than just a tempo loss. Without checking deeper 28. Qf2 looks better. Easy draw with black for Caruana. |
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| Jan-12-13 | | sofouuk: <DcGentle>you say that, but rybka had 28.Qf2 Qf6 29.a4 - is that significantly different to 28.a4 Qg7 29.Qf2 as played? if there is anything there, white would have to play with extreme subtlety to exploit it |
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| Jan-12-13 | | Ulhumbrus: One alternative to 19...Nd4 is the pawn sacrifice 19...f4 eg 19...f4 20 gf Qh4 21 fe de 22 f4 ef 23 Bxf4 Rc7-f7 24 Be3 Be5 25 bxc5 Qg3 |
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| Jan-12-13 | | haydn20: In retrospect 20. exf5 Rxf5 21. Be4 Rf8 22. Kg2 Nf5 23. Qc1 may be a little better for White, with some Qside chances. I know Magnus has been insanely successful with the passive spider-and-fly approach, but I have to wonder if other top players will eventually catch on to it. |
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| Jan-12-13 | | DcGentle: Well, I know it would have been a long battle, but Carlsen had winning chances: 1. c4 g6 2. e4 e5 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. g3 d6 5. Nge2 c5 6. d3 Nc6 7. Bg2 Nge7 8. a3 Nd4 9. b4 Bg4 10. h3 Bxe2 11. Nxe2 Nxe2 12. Qxe2 Nc6 13. Rb1 b6 14. O-O O-O 15. Be3 Rc8 16. Qd2 Rc7 17. Kh1 Kh8 18. Rb2 f5 19. Rbb1 Nd4 20. Bxd4 cxd4 21. exf5 gxf5 22. Bd5 Qe8 23. b5 Re7 24. Rbe1 e4 25. f4 exf3 26. Rxe7 Qxe7 27. Rxf3 Be5 
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So far the actual game. Now the variant starts:
28. Qf2 Qf6 29. g4 f4 30. h4 Kg7 31. Rh3 h6 32. Kg2 Qe7 33. Be4 Re8 34. Rh1 Rh8 35. Bd5 Rf8 36. Kf3 Bf6 37. Be4 Rh8 38. Kg2 Be5 39. Qf3 Rf8 40. g5 hxg5 41. hxg5 Qxg5+ 42. Kf1 Kf6 43. Rg1 Qh4 44. Rg4 Qh6 45. a4 Rf7 46. Rg6+ Qxg6 47. Bxg6 Kxg6 48. Qc6 Kf5 49. a5 bxa5 50. Qc8+ Kg5 51. Qd8+ Kg6 52. Qxa5 Kf5 53. Qd8 Rg7 54. Qf8+ Ke6 55. Kf2 Rf7 56. Qc8+ Kf6 57. Kf3 Re7 58. Qh8+ Kg6 59. Qh3 Rc7 60. Ke4 Re7 61. Qf5+ Kg7 62. Qg5+ Kf8 63. Qg4 Kf7 64. Kd5 Kf6 65. Ke4 Kf7 66. Qf5+ Kg8 67. Kd5 Kg7 68. Kc6 Kg8 69. c5 dxc5 70. Kxc5 Bc7 71. Kxd4 Bb6+ 72. Kd5 Rf7 73. Qg4+ Kh7 74. d4 Rf8 75. Qf3 Kh6 76. Ke4 Re8+ 77. Kf5 Rf8+ 78. Ke5 Kg6 79. Qg2+ Kh6 80. Qb7 Bd8 81. Qh1+ Kg5 82. Qg2+ Kh6 83. Qc6+ Kg7 84. Qf3 Bc7+ 85. Ke4 Re8+ 86. Kd5 Bb8 87. Qg4+ Kf6 88. Qh5 Rf8 89. Qh6+ Kf7 90. Qh7+ Kf6 91. Ke4 f3 92. Kxf3 Rf7 93. Qh6+ Ke7+ 94. Ke4 Rf6 95. Qg5 Bd6 96. Kd3 Ke6 97. Kc4 Bc7 98. Qc5 Kd7 99. Qxa7 Black can resign. |
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| Jan-12-13 | | Wild Bill: Greetings for California, where I just poured my first cup of coffee. Drawing in this position seems understandable to me. We have BOOC, all pawns are on the color on which their respective Bishop rides and neither side has any reserve pawn tempi. |
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| Jan-12-13 | | whiteshark: en passant (short comments from the players):
MC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur... FC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur... |
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| Jan-12-13 | | kardopov: It seems Caruana is fully prepared for this event. And he keeps on improving. He plays anti-Carlsen chess, full of positioning and less tactics. Ominous one for Carsen who would be hard pressed to maintain his Elo. |
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| Jan-12-13 | | Pedro Fernandez: Really <DcGentle>? So don't you think Caruana didn't realize about 28.Qf2? And also Carlsen? No my dear dear friend, and you know very well that I appreciate you, but this time you're being a bit naive. You know very well you're corrected me several times, but to think you may follow this game to the move 99 it is really quite heuristic. I think Caruana was very intelligent in this game vs. Carlsen, a super GM who I think will win this tournament as I posted earlier. |
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| Jan-12-13 | | ajile: <achieve: Pardon me, but if carlsen plays like this in the candidates he will never win it. NEVER!
My predictions rarely come true, though.>
lol
nice backpedal. |
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| Jan-13-13 | | DcGentle: <<Pedro Fernandez>: Really <DcGentle>? So don't you think Caruana didn't realize about 28.Qf2? And also Carlsen?> Both realized it, but Carlsen said, he made a mistake. <whiteshark> posted the links to these videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur... http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur... And they both confirmed me. ;-) |
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| Jan-13-13 | | achieve: Caruana referred to this position, where "consolidation of the position is difficult", and ...f4 will have to be played; then after g4 "the position can be unpleasant to defend, but Black should be OK," according to Caruana. The problem seems to be to consolidate the f-pawn and the threat of g4 with a pin on the rook is "unpleasant", hence ...f4 and g4, after which the defence can become "unpleasant": 
click for larger view The way the game went White allowed time to indeed consolidate, which I think is the main critique; a valuable tempo was lost with 28.a4 |
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| Jan-13-13 | | achieve: Btw, I see that the diagram I posted is similar to the first few moves that Dc Gentle posted in that long line, yesterday. |
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