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Jun-07-13 | | legi: To 22.♔g1
there seems to be a mate: 22...f3
23. ♕b4 (Funkenstein) ♕xh2+
24. ♔x♕ ♘f6+!
25. ♔g3 ♖h3# |
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Jun-07-13 | | SilverLining: Alright, here's what I got after Kg1
22.Kg1 Ng3!
A.)
23.Kxg2 Qh3+
24.Kf3 Nh5+ (semi-transposing)
25.Ke4 Nf6#
I'm glad to have found this again, as this was my favorite of the other variations. : ) B.)
23.fxg3 Qxh2+
24.Kf2 Bxa8+
25.Kf1 Qg2# |
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Jun-07-13 | | morfishine: I love combinations like this.
I was only able to see that <22.Kxg2> was better than <22.Bxg2> |
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Jun-07-13 | | nottogoodabeginner: seemed easy for a Friday. Very straight forward |
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Jun-07-13 | | geniokov: <21...Bxg2+> was the obvious try with lots of very good combination! But it seems that if we go deeper,an immediate <21...Ng3+!?> find even more interesting!...Hmmm! |
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Jun-07-13 | | mistreaver: Thursday. Black to play. Difficult. 21?
It is obvious that the combination is connected with the pair of moves Ng3 and Bxg2. But at which order? Let's calculate.
After some thought i decided that Ng3 is the way, since Bxg2 runs into Kxg2 when Ng3 doesn't come with the check.
So
21 ... Ng3+
White can accept or decline
A)Let's first check the more primitive approach.
22 hxg3 Bxg2+
23 Kxg2 Qh2+
24 Kf3 and white king escapes
This variation showed me that perhaps following move should be inserted:
21... f3
Now accepting the pawn would lead to forced mate. White can choose either to refuse the pawn, or to refuse the knight.
Say
21... f3
22 Rg1 Ng3+
23 fxg3 Bg2+
24 Rxg2 fxg2
25 Kxg2 Qh3+
26 Kf3 Rf6+
and i think black will mate here.
Or
21... f3
22 Bxf3 Ng3+
23 Kg1 Bxg2
24 Bxg2 Qh2 mate
I think 21... f3 is the right idea, and that black should win in any case. My analysis is probably a bit superficial, but these colourful
variations show that defense is very hard if at all possible.
Time to check.
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Whoops, Ng3 loses in any case, but for black, since this knight belongs to f3, and in some cases white can take with rook on g3. Bxg2 is forced mate in 7 moves, and f3 also works but it transposes to the game continuation if white takes on f3, else he has to move his rook. Nice puzzle! |
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Jun-07-13 | | gofer: A nice little combination starting with...
<21 ... Bxg2+>
22 Kg1 Bxh8 a piece up and mating soon
22 Bxg2 Ng3+
23 fxg3/Kg1 Qxh2#
<22 Kxg2 f3+!>
White only has four options all result in mate soon after... Option 1
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23 Kxf3 Qh3+
24 Ke4 Nf6#
Option 2
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23 Kf1 Qh3+ 24 Kg1 Qg2#
23 Kg1 Qg5+ 24 Kf1/Kh1 Qg2#
23 Kh1 Ng3+ 24 fxg3/Kg1 Qxh2#
Option 3
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23 exf3 Nf4+
24 Kh1 Qxh2#
24 Kf1 Qh3+
25 Kg1 Qg2#
24 Kg1 Qxh2+
25 Kf1 Qg2#/Qh1#
Option 4
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23 Bxf3 Nf4+
24 Kh1 Qxh2#
24 Kg1 Qxh2+
25 Kf1 Qh1+
26 Bxh1 Rxh1#
24 Kf1 Qh3+
25 Kg1 Qxh2+
26 Kf1 Qh1+
27 Bxh1 Rxh1# |
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Jun-07-13 | | LoveThatJoker: <21...Bxg2+ 22. Kxg2> (22. Bxg2 Ng3+ mating)
<22...f3+!> 0-1
A) 23. Bxf3 Nf4+ 24. Kf1 Qh3+ 25. Kg1 Qxh2+ 26. Kf1 Qh1+ 27. Bxh1 Rxh1# B) 23. exf3 Nf4+ mating
C) 23. Kxf3 Qh3+ 24. Ke4 Nf6#
D) 23. Kf1 Qh3+ mating
E) 23. Kg1 Qg4+ mating
F) 23. Kh1 Ng3+ mating
LTJ |
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Jun-07-13 | | Pedro Fernandez: 21...Bxg2+ is easy, but I didn't see 22.Kxg2 but 22.Bxg2 which also leads to mate. The nice move no doubt was 22...f3+! giving f4 square for the knight. |
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Jun-07-13 | | numbersguy70: 18.Nxf6 is unbelievably bad. Here, have what may be my best piece, and btw, let me put the barrel of your rook in my mouth. |
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Jun-07-13 | | JimmyRockHound: Beautiful. |
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Jun-07-13 | | kevin86: i thought it was rather amusing that the rook at h6 on turn 21 would mate at 27,despite four pieces betwwen the rook and the h1 square,now occupied by the king,himself. |
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Jun-07-13
 | | chrisowen: A ghost in toggle bishop OK elucidate ago knead in,
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mighty fine bold jetter h3 takes King's hone in on,
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Jun-07-13 | | Robin01: So what is the final decision on whether 21...Ng3+ works? |
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Jun-07-13 | | gofer: <<numbersguy70: 18.Nxf6 is unbelievably bad. Here, have what may be my best piece, and btw, let me put the barrel of your rook in my mouth.>>
Are you trying to get a rise from someone with your post? Okay, I'll crawl out from under my rock... Doesn't 18 Nxf6 stop the immediate <18 ... Ng4> which kills white dead in three more moves? 18 Bxd6/Nc3/Nb4/Nc7 Ng4
19 Bh3/h3 Nxf2+ winning the white queen or mating
What alternative are you suggesting?
18 h3 Bxh3
18 f3 Ng3+
18 Bf3/Qf1/Rf1 cxd5
18 Ne7+ Kf7
Then what? It seems white is left with no good defense to <19 ... Ng4>, so I think black's choice was probably the best of a bad lot as it avoids the complications of allowing Ng4 and also avoids dropping a piece! |
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Jun-07-13 | | vasja: 21... Ng3+
22 fg Bxg2+
23 Kg1 Qxh2+
24 Kf2 Qxg3+
25 Kg1 Rh1# |
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Jun-07-13 | | patcheck: To Dr Funkenstein:
21. ... Bxg2 22. Kg1 f3 23. Qb4 Dxh2+ 24. Kxh2 Nf6+! 25. Kg3 Rh3# |
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Jun-07-13 | | lost in space: Too easy for friday |
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Jun-07-13 | | BOSTER: <Phony Benoni> <That ,folks, is why we love the queen>. Who else can manage to gather all his army on the "h" file? |
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Jun-07-13
 | | sleepyirv: Is Nh4 a thematic move in this opening? Presumably White played it for some purpose but it appears to mostly serve as a target to break up the pawns in front of the White King. |
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Jun-07-13
 | | Phony Benoni: <BOSTER: Who else can manage to gethre all his army on the "h" file?> Well, it's not the h-file, but will you accept this position from Capablanca vs K Treybal, 1929:  click for larger viewAnd, if anybody around isn't familiar with this game, go through it if only to see how Black can get into such a fix. |
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Jun-07-13 | | M.Hassan: "Difficult"
Black to play 21...?
Black is pittyfully down by a(Rook+Bishop+pawn) for a Knight.21..........Bxg2+
Two lines may emerge:
A)
22.Kxg2 f3+! to make room for Knight move
23.Bxf3 Nf4+
24.Kg1 Qxh2+
25.Kf1 Qh1+
26.Bxh1 Rxh1#
B)
22.Bxg2 Ng3+
23.fxg3 Qxh2#
Time to check |
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Jun-07-13 | | numbersguy70: 18.Ne7+ followed by 19.Bxc6 is winning for white. The second black knight is more in the way than a real threat on g4, as the LSB can't chase the rook off d2, and white should own the a8-h1. |
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Jun-07-13 | | dw98: <sleepyirv:> <Is Nh4 a thematic move in this opening? Presumably White played it for some purpose but it appears to mostly serve as a target to break up the pawns in front of the White King.> I agree. Presumably, white played Nh4 to allow and support an f4 pawn thrust, but then he started playing on the Q side instead. I suppose he thought it would be nifty to have his knight at d5 with the eventual capture of the rook at a8 in the plans. |
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Jun-07-13 | | perfessor: Whatever the winning move may be, ... Kh8! is the only artistic one. |
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