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Jun-02-13 | | haydn20: Black can still lose via 26...Nxh6? 27. Qd5+! |
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Jun-02-13 | | Ulhumbrus: One way for White to lose is 26...Nxh6 27 Qxh6 Qb4+ 28 Kc2 Qb2+ 29 Kd3 Bb5+ 30 Ke3 Bd2+ |
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Jun-02-13 | | Marmot PFL: < haydn20:> 24 Rh3 Rf2 25 Qd5+ Qxd5 26 ed5 Nxc3+ 27 Rxc3 Bxc3 28 Rxc3 Rxf1+ and I doubt the doubled white d pawns give much winning chances but the game continues. With last round 2 hours sooner tomorrow there is something to say for ending early today. |
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Jun-02-13 | | haydn20: Meanwhile, Moro played a very disspirited game against Kamsky and got crushed. Topalov has a fair initiative vs Caruana. |
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Jun-02-13 | | Strongest Force: If Topa beats or draws Fab, Gata could get short draw in 11th |
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Jun-02-13 | | Eyal: <24 Rh3 Rf2 25 Qd5+ Qxd5 26 ed5 Nxc3+ 27 R[c]xc3 Bxc3 28 Rxc3 Rxf1+ and I doubt the doubled white d pawns give much winning chances> Yeah, and 27.R(h)xc3 Bf5+ 28.Bd3 (28.Ka1? Rxf1!) 28...Bxd3+ 29.Rxd3 Rb2+ should be an even clearer draw. |
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Jun-02-13 | | Strongest Force: Dom fall off to sleep? |
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Jun-02-13 | | Marmot PFL: That's 4 straight losses for Moro. Making he is drinking too much between rounds. |
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Jun-02-13 | | haydn20: I have 24, Be2 Rf2 25. Qd1 Qb6+ 26. Qxb3+ Qxb3+ 27. axb3 Rxe2 28. bxa4 h6 29. Nf3 Rxe4 and tho' he has the Ex and a protected passer on the 6th rank, his other three rancid pawns don't hold out much hope for a win. |
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Jun-02-13 | | Eyal: <27...Qb4+ 28.Qb3> (28.Kc2?? Qb2+ 29.Kd3 [29.Kd1 Ne3#] 29...Qd2+ 30.Kc4 Ne3+ and mate) <28...Qxe4+ 29.Qc2> (29.Kc1?? Qe3+ 30.Kb1 Qe1+ 31.Kc2 Ne3+ 32.Kd3 Qd2+ 33.Ke4 Bc6+ and mate) <29...Qe1+ 30.Qc1 Qe4+> forces a draw. |
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Jun-02-13 | | vmrani: they might reach to a position with two bishops for black and 3 pawns and for white 2 pawns rook and bishop.I just analyzed by playing and came to that position |
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Jun-02-13 | | The Last Straw: Oh... and perpetual? |
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Jun-02-13 | | Marmot PFL: Black has perpetual check so he can spend time looking for something else. Then the time will be so low that he will have to take the perp. |
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Jun-02-13 | | haydn20: Does this game make new theory in this line? |
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Jun-02-13 | | haydn20: Topalov played 25. Nd6?! missing the simple discovery 25...f5! and his initiative vanished. |
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Jun-02-13 | | Eyal: <Does this game make new theory in this line?> Yeah, on move 19 Dominguez deviated from M Rodshtein vs Navara, 2012 (this whole variation became recently fashionable after the 3rd game of the Anand-Gelfand match). |
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Jun-02-13 | | The Last Straw: Could we please switch to Topalov-Caruana? |
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Jun-02-13 | | auh2o: <The Last Straw> An excellent suggestion. Topalov and Caruana is a fascinating struggle that has gone back and forth. |
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Jun-02-13 | | Eyal: Re move 24, Grischuk said in the press conference that he went for 24.Nxf7 because he was convinced that he's winning after 25...Bxc3 with 26.Qd5: click for larger viewBut then he realized that he's actually losing here after 26...Qb4+ 27.Qb3 Qxe4+ 28.Qc2 Qe1+ 29.Qc1 Bf5+, so "by a miracle" he found that he can still draw with 26.Nh6+ first (the point being that with the knight on this square Black doesn't have Bf5+ after Qc1). |
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Jun-02-13
 | | Domdaniel: <Strongest Force> -- < Dom fall off to sleep?>
Yep, that's exactly what happened. Did I miss much?
[grin] |
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Jun-02-13 | | Tiggler: <Domdaniel: <Strongest Force> -- < Dom fall off to sleep?> Yep, that's exactly what happened. Did I miss much?> Just another dull GM draw. |
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Jun-02-13
 | | Domdaniel: <Tiggler> Thank you for that. Your biog, incidentally, is very impressive. There is, perhaps, a mean to which we all regress in the end ... |
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Jun-02-13 | | ChemMac: Just glancing at the final position; what is White's next move to answer the threat of 34....Ba4? |
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Jun-02-13 | | ChemMac: Again; just glancing...no real analysis. 34. Bc4 QXc4 35 Rc1 What do our wonderful computers say? |
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Jun-02-13 | | Eyal: 33...Qd4 is a mistake in the score, it wasn't actually played (according to the official site - and 33.Qc2 is already a threefold repetition). It would have been interesting to try it on move 31, however... 32.Rh4 would be enough to secure the draw, though (32...Ba4 33.Qe2 and now Black has to force the repetition). |
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