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Oct-14-14 | | hoodrobin: Did they all agree (in practice) on a general draw? |
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Oct-14-14 | | Marmot PFL: <Both dudes vying for a win> lol |
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Oct-14-14 | | ossipossi: D-dddraw?? |
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Oct-14-14
 | | Penguincw: < SirRuthless: Ridiculous choice from Tomashevsky to accept a draw here... Caruana now getting reputation draws like Carlsen... Lol. > Well, with the draw, Caruana ensures a tie of first with Gelfand (I believe he has the tiebreaker) and Tomashevsky ensures that he finishes at +1 (he also gains 13.4 rating points). Seems like a win-win for both players. :) |
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Oct-14-14 | | chessdgc2: It seems a shame to draw in such a dynamic position....THANKS CHESSGAMES.COM!! |
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Oct-14-14 | | Ulhumbrus: If Bronstein's comments on the game Averbakh vs Najdorf, 1953 apply here, Tomashevsky agreed to a draw because he believed his position to be in danger while Caruana did not see exactly how to regain his pawn. Perhaps with reversed colours they would have continued playing. |
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Oct-14-14 | | hoodrobin: They're professionals after all. |
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Oct-14-14 | | ossipossi: <Ulhumbrus>: wise sentence. Flesh is weak, only Houdini would have keep on fighting, both sides without a care. |
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Oct-14-14 | | chessdgc2: Yeah, my girlfriend is professional, too :) |
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Oct-14-14 | | Pedro Fernandez: << Marmot PFL>: <Both dudes vying for a win> lol> ``vying''? I didn't know that word, I had written: "Both dudes who compete for a win", so that I have added up a new word to my poor English. BTW my dear friend, were you lost? No body knows about you since long, greetings! |
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Oct-14-14 | | chessdgc2: ....and she accepts draws, but they've gotta be straight out |
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Oct-14-14 | | Strongest Force: Because I am waiting for this game to end so I can get away from the devises, this game will now probably last another 6 hours:( |
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Oct-14-14 | | hoodrobin: Grischuk is not (a professional). |
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Oct-14-14 | | Pedro Fernandez: < chessdgc2: ....and she accepts draws, but they've gotta be straight out> Shee? Very interesting! |
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Oct-14-14 | | chessdgc2: hoodrobin: What? you say Crischuk isn't pro? That's interesting....um, what makes one world elite player a professional while another elite player, not professional? |
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Oct-14-14 | | SirRuthless: <penguincw> There is no tie breaker for GP points or money prizes. ;-) |
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Oct-14-14 | | AlexandraThess: Congratulations to Gelfand for winning the tournament. The best player won. Those computer kids are not a match for him. |
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Oct-14-14 | | Petrosianic: Um, Gelfand actually lost the tiebreaker. |
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Oct-14-14
 | | HeMateMe: the tie breaker is meaningless. The top two split the points and money. Fab gets a shiny cup. |
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Oct-14-14 | | Marmot PFL: Caruana gets cash and trophy, loses about 6 rating points but so what? |
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Oct-14-14 | | hoodrobin: <chessdgc2> I meant Grischuk is not a true professional because he won (or was it Dominguez Perez which lost?). |
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Oct-14-14 | | jphamlore: If I understand the Grand Prix scoring system correctly, Tomashevsky may have made an incredible blunder agreeing to a draw if he had any winning chances. He was not in desperate time trouble. The reason is that Tomashevsky receives the average of 3rd through 7th place, the average of 110, 90, 80, 70, and 60. But Caruana and Gelfand receive the average of 1st through 2nd, 170 and 140. I guess it depends on what Tomashevsky's goals are. If his goal is to somehow make Candidates 2016, I suspect he just threw away he best chance he'll get. |
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Oct-14-14 | | Absentee: <Those computer kids are not a match for him.> Magnus Carlsen beat Boris Gelfand 5 to 1, with 9 draws. Fabiano Caruana beat Boris Gelfand 5 to 2, with 6 draws. Anish Giri beat Boris Gelfand 3 to 1, with 5 draws.
Teimour Radjabov beat Boris Gelfand 5 to 3, with 12 draws. |
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Oct-14-14
 | | PawnSac: i doubt Evgeny sees himself as a serious candidate for 2016. He peaked at 2740 in Jan 2012 and has stalled a bit. Currently (according to the live rating) at #33, he would have some serious work to do in order to climb past the pack. In this tourney he was the lowest rated player, the only one with no losses, drew everyone above him and beat 1, and gained 13.4 on rating. All in all it was a good showing for him. But Dominguez on the other hand.. ouch! -24.8 with 5 losses. |
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Oct-14-14 | | Garech: I agree it is strange indeed that Tomashevsky did not play on here, given that his position was at worst equal (i.e. white had compensation for the pawn, but black is still material up) - for finishing third equal he gets 82 GP points; had he won this game tied for first he would have got 155 (as Caruana would join the group in third, leaving only two tied for first). It's a gap of 73 points, which could make an enormous difference in the scheme of things. Truth be told, he is a drawish player, so perhaps this contributed something to the psychology involved. -Garech |
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