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Jovanka Houska vs Tim Hebbes
London Chess Classic Open (2014), London ENG, rd 2, Dec-09
Queen's Gambit Declined: Tartakower Defense. General (D58)  ·  1-0

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Feb-01-16  roentgenium: I agree that this is harder than the usual Monday - there is more than one line to consider after the first move, it doesn't lead to checkmate, and the immediate material gain is a single pawn! And I reckon I'd find a way to muck up the resulting pawn endgame (sadly, I'm not completely joking about that).

One thing I do enjoy about this puzzle is that it does teach an important concept that novices like me often forget - sometimes when an enemy piece is pinned and you can win it for material gain, it may be worth delaying the immediate capture and looking to see if you can get 'more out of it'.

Feb-01-16
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  whiteshark: Quite challenging, a tuesdayish/wednesdayish Monday puzzle.
Feb-01-16  diagonalley: monday puzzle(?!?)... my arse... ok... so white gets a winning end-game... just!... (better watch out for tuesday's blockbuster folks!)
Feb-01-16  YetAnotherAmateur: I played this somewhat differently (and possibly wrong). I went with an immediate 32. Bb5. That leaves either

A) 32. ... Rc8? 33. Rxc8 winning.
B) 32. ... Rmoves elsewhere 33. Rxe8+ Kmoves and then continuing to deal with whatever problem black created with his rook move. C) 32. ... Kxd8 33. Bxc6 followed by Rxc5 going into a pawn-advantage endgame.

However, this is definitely less forcing than the game line, so I'll only give myself partial credit on it.

Feb-01-16  gofer: Hmmm,

32 Rxd8+ Kxd8
33 Bd5 Rc7
34 Rxc5 Kd7
35 Rxc6+ Rxc6
36 Ke4 Kd6
37 Bxc6 Kxc6
38 Ke5 Kd7
39 Kf6 Kd6
40 e4 Kd7
41 e5


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Now this is clearly a "Very Easy" win for white, but is it really Monday stuff?!?!

A "10-move combination leading to a 3-pawn advantage" is not our usual Monday fare. I imagine I wont be alone on this...

~~~

Indeed I am not... ...<diagonalley> is right. Tomorrow should be tough...

Feb-01-16
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  Sally Simpson: I too felt robbed, I come here on a Monday to sac a Queen or at the very least a Rook and instead I get this!

But one should not complain. Solving these banal game winning puzzles are of more practical value than Queen sac - check-check and checkmate puzzles.

You can go years without playing a Queen sac mating combo but these game winning tricks crop up all the time.

Feb-01-16
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  thegoodanarchist: <Sally Simpson: I too felt robbed, I come here on a Monday to sac a Queen or at the very least a Rook and instead I get this!

But one should not complain.>

No, one <should> definitely complain. It was not appropriate for the day of the week and that should not be glossed over.

I got it, but it took too long because I was looking for a Monday tactic, not a Tuesday tactic.

Feb-01-16  CanITakeThatBack: god forbid there is is diversity in the style of chess puzzles. ITT wahmbulance alert.

This is a pretty easy puzzle. The black rook and the knight are already lined up on the white bishop's diagnol so you consider a pin, but it doesn't work, then you see if you can do anything else and the sac to reposition the king and pin the rook works. Not crazy.

Feb-01-16  dfcx: <ajk68: I initially thought <dfcx> had the right idea. ... Although it appears white would have a winning endgame after 35. Rxh5, leaving black with a rook gives him a lot more drawing resources. Having a small additional material plus is irrelevant.>

Yes I agree with you. Removing the last black rook is better for white, white king can pick up the H pawn easily afterwards.

Feb-01-16
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  Oxspawn: <Sally Simpson> <Solving these banal game winning puzzles are of more practical value than Queen sac - check-check and checkmate puzzles> I did not get this today but I am not complaining. In fact, I agree with the second half of this sentence - 'one glimpse and it's done' Mondays are no fun. However, calling it banal is insulting to quite a few of us who turn up here on a Monday. Something is only 'easy' if you can do it, and that still does not make it banal. Banal is an empty thought - like sticking labels on things without thinking.
Feb-01-16
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  kevin86: The rook sac turns out to be an exchange. White will end out a pawn ahead.
Feb-01-16
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  gawain: Mondays are getting harder. In this one, White wins the exchange with a neat skewer. That is good enough.
Feb-01-16  dark.horse: Yeah. Monday's are easy because when you have found the answer, you're confident you have it. On this one, I saw the game continuation quickly, and that it wins, but kept looking and looking for White to win at least a piece (it _is_ Monday after all). Didn't find it. Waste of time.
Feb-01-16  Marmot PFL: rather complicated for a Monday.
Feb-01-16  stst: <Most of us in human mode have tried to defend the Rc6 with either Kd7 or Rc7. For <stst> - this is the rook on h7, not c6.

Fritzie says that Black is losing with an eval of -7.92, but he ignores the Rc6 and is currently looking at 33...Ke7 (intending Kd6) or 33...h4. I suppose the "reasoning" is that the king and pawn endgame is totally lost so Black might as well try to keep material on the board.>

Yeah, thanks, overlooked Rhc7, but, like you said from Fritz... it didn't matter, Fritz didn't bother to get back something via exchange -- so Rhc7 could be ignored... by all means, the R on c6 will be lost, at most Black got back the B, and, comparing material (even counting pawns,) Black is lost.

Feb-01-16
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  transpose: I find I can solve nearly all weekday puzzles but when the weekend comes around, it makes as much sense as a <chrisowen> comment.
Feb-01-16  Coriolis: An April fools joke on April 1st is just too predictable. Why not make it the 1st of another month?
Feb-01-16  Herma48852: I miss Bishop skewers all the time but not this one: 32. Rxe8+ Kxe8 33. Bb5 Kd7 34. Rxc5 and the R/c6 falls next and White will be up a minor piece.
Feb-01-16  Alex56171: A very instructive puzzle. But tough for a Monday.
Feb-01-16
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  Bubo bubo: An unusual Monday: White, who is already up a pawn, simplifies and wins another pawn with 32.Rxe8+ Kxe8 33.Bb5 Rc7 (or 33...Kd7 34.Rc5, winning the pinned rook for a net gain of a piece) 34.Rc5 Kd7 35.Rxc6 Rxc6 36.Bxc6+ Kxc6 37.Ke4, and the pawn ending should be won easily.
Feb-01-16  CHESSTTCAMPS: Atypical for Monday (not a queen sac or a quick mate), but simple enough. White has the material advantage of B+P for knight and also has the more active rooks. Black's threat of 32... Kxd8 suggests a simplification that wins additional material: 32.Rxe8+ Kxe8 33.Bb5 and now:

A.33... Kd7 34.Rxc5 leaves white B+2Ps ahead
B.33... Rhc7 34.Rxc5 Kd7 35.Rxc6 Rxc6 36.Ke4 Kd6 37.Bxc6 with a simple K&P ending.

Feb-01-16  kubbybulin: I don't know what you people are talking about. I think Chris Owen hit it clearly and concisely right on the head.
Feb-01-16  barryh1976: Simple end game simplification puzzle. Very easy.
Feb-01-16
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Oxspawn,

'Banal' as in commonplace, a bread and butter trick. This type of tactic crops up in every game, it's how most games are won.

One side has the advantage and starts hitting weak spots. The defending player's pieces get forced onto the wrong squares, (30...Rc6) a pattern appears. (Bb5 skewering d8), ideas form, a pin and a pseudo exchange sac that leads to a clean transition into a easily won ending.

As I said it's more beneficial than Queen or Rook sac for mate which though prettier are much rarer and actually easier to calculate as mate ends the game, in this standard wrap up (is that better than banal?) you still have to judge if the endgame is won and ensure there are no after combo tricks or stings in the tail.

Feb-02-16  Patriot: <Sally Simpson> You are totally correct!

It took me only a few seconds to consider 32.Rxe8+ Kxe8 33.Bb5. But it did take a bit longer to see 33...Kd7 34.Rxc5. A little longer to try the other option, 33...Rc7 34.Rxc5. But I didn't stop there because there is a loose rook on h7 so I considered 32.Ra8 Rc7 and decided 32.Rxe8+ is correct.

We all miss the occasional Monday (I know I have!) but I have a feeling those who missed it were looking for a "queen sac Monday". To each their own, but I still don't understand why someone would solve this way! I think it's a poor way of practicing analysis.

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