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| May-06-17 | | ChessHigherCat: I think the basic plan must be Rc1 in order to deflect either the Q or the eR off the e file in order to play e5, which is crushing, of course.
32. Rc1 Rc8 32. Rxc8 Rxc8 33. e5!
32. Rc1 Re7 33. Qh5+ Kf8 34. Qh6+ Kf7 35. Qxh7+ (I'm sure this line wins eventually but haven't worked it out yet) |
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| May-06-17 | | ChessHigherCat: Having looked at the "solution", I wasn't even close to the game line but I think my idea may be okay anyway. |
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| May-06-17 | | Walter Glattke: I am proud to present an analysis, where
no knack combination is possible, the
diagram is left to manoeuvres. No puzzle so far, only a platform for stockfish suggests. 32.Rc1 Rd 33.b6 d3 |
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| May-06-17 | | Walter Glattke: 32.-Rd7 |
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| May-06-17 | | Walter Glattke: 32.Qh6 Rf8 33.Qxh7+ Ke8 34.Qg6+ Qf7 |
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| May-06-17 | | lost in space: Don’t get it. Would have played 32. Rc1 or 32. Re1 to prepare e5 or eventually 32. Qh6. But the resulting position is not won for White, I can not find a decisive continuation Example: 32. Qh6 Rg8 33. Re1 Qe5 34. Rf5 Qd4+ 35. Kh1 Rg6 36. Qxh7 Rg7 
click for larger viewWhite is better. But it is still a long way back to paradise. |
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| May-06-17 | | Walter Glattke: There were stockfish suggests after 42.e5 - 42.-Kg6 43.exf6 Re1+ or 43.Qg3
Kh5 or 43.Kf2 Ng4+ - 1-0 or 0-1? ask the computers! |
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| May-06-17 | | Walter Glattke: Corr: 43.Qg3 Kh6 |
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| May-06-17 | | Walter Glattke: Oh, I see yet: 43.Qg3+ Kh6 44.fxe5 Re1+
45.Rxe1 dxe1Q+ 46.Qxe1 wins, no metal brain needed here. |
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| May-06-17 | | Walter Glattke: Corr: 44.exf6 |
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| May-06-17 | | Iwer Sonsch: Missed it. I would have tried to chain-check, beginning with 32.Qh5+. |
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| May-06-17 | | gofer: I wanted to try to exploit the pinned knight and so thought that <32 Rf5> was the way to go... <32 Rf5 ...>
32 ... Ke7?
33 Re5 
32 ... h6
33 Qxh6
<32 ... Rg8>
<33 Qf4 ...>
33 ... Rg6
34 e5
33 ... Ke7?
34 Re5
<33 ... Kg7>
<34 Rc1 ...>
click for larger viewOkay at this point it gets interesting. Black must avoid the following... 34 ... Rc8
35 Rxc8 Rxc8
36 Qg5+
and must protect against Rc7+, so Rd7 or Nd7 are likely, but beyond this
I am a little bit lost.
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Errr. Okay about as far away from the line played as one can get... Is <32 Rf5 ...> okay or garbage?! |
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| May-06-17 | | Walter Glattke: Lost in space, I saw -d3 has not been played, so 32.Qh6 Rg8 33.Re1 perhaps 33.-Rg6 34.e5!? not Qxe5 Qxg6, but
34.-Rxh6 (35.Rxf6+ Rxf6!) |
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| May-06-17 | | Iwer Sonsch: Stockfish's take on it:
<32.Qh6 Rf8! 33.Re1> (33.Qxh7+ Ke8 34.Qxb7 Nd7 (0.29 @depth 27) 35.Qc6 Qxc6 36.Rxf8+ Kxf8 37.bxc6) <33...d3 34.e5 Ke8 35.Rxf6 Rxf6 36.Qxf6 Qxf6 37.exf6+ Kf7> (0.94 @depth 29)
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A rook endgame where White basically has a 1 pawn advantage. This might be a win for White, but... <32.Qh5+ Kg7 33.Qg5+ Kf7> actually forces perpetual (and maintains the opportunity of playing 34.Qh6), as 32...Kf8 33.Qh6+ Ke7 (or 32...Ke7) falls to 34.Qh4! d3 35.e5 (1.90 @depth 27). <32.Rf5>, <32.Rc1>, and <32.Rd1> are being rated 0.00, but they draw less easily as 32.Qh5+. |
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| May-06-17 | | morfishine: Funny series of moves with the rook going back and forth between <f4> & <f5> before White finally figures it out lol
***** |
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| May-06-17 | | Walter Glattke: 35.Qh5 Kg7 36.e5 Nd5 (37.Qxd8 Nxf4) |
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| May-06-17 | | Iwer Sonsch: <gofer> 34.Qh5+ draws with perpetual, so the line is not garbage. After 34.Rc1, though, Black has 34...Nd7, which is being rated 0.00 @depth 27. |
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| May-06-17 | | Walter Glattke: Corr: Lost in space follow Analysis:
34.Qh5 Kg7 35.e5 Nd5 36.Rd4 perhaps Qb6!? 36.-Rg8 37.Qe4 Ne7 more solid |
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| May-06-17 | | Iwer Sonsch: <lost in space> After 32.Qh6 Rg8 33.Re1 Qe5 34.Rf5, 34...Qd4+!! is impossible. |
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| May-06-17 | | Walter Glattke: C: 34.Qh4! |
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| May-06-17 | | Walter Glattke: Iwer, I told this impossible move before, but I always made typing mistakes here, I prefer 32.Rf8! as you and stockfish, my actual answer to 32.Qh6 Rg8 is 33.Re1 Rg6 34.Qh4 (34.Qxh7+ Rg7 and Rh7) 34.-Kg7 35.e5 Nd5
36.Rxd4 |
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| May-06-17 | | Walter Glattke: 34.Qxh7+ Rg7 35.Qh4 d3 36.e5 d2 37.Rxf6+ Kg8 38.Rxe6 dxe1Q+ 39.Qxe1
wins |
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| May-06-17 | | Walter Glattke: I think, Rg8 is "banana-care" everything goes wrong without Rf8. |
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| May-06-17 | | RandomVisitor: 
click for larger viewKomodo-10.1-64bit: <8 hours computer time> <+0.65/43 32.Qh6 Rf8> 33.Re1 Ke7 34.e5 Nd5 35.Qxh7+ Ke8 36.Rxd4 Rd7 37.Qh5+ Kd8 38.Red1 Kc7 39.Qg4 Qxg4 40.fxg4 Nb6 41.e6 Rxd4 42.Rxd4 Rd8 43.e7 Rh8 44.h4 Nc8 45.h5 Nxe7 46.Kh2 Kb6 47.Rd7 Nf5 48.gxf5 Rxh5+ 49.Kg3 Rxf5 50.a4 Rf8 51.Rd4 Kc5 52.Rf4 Rd8 53.Kh4 Rh8+ 54.Kg4 Kd5 55.Rf5+ Kd6 56.Rf7 b6 57.Rf4 Kd5 58.Rf5+ Kc4 59.Kf3 Kb3 60.Rf4 Rc8 61.g4 Rc3+ 0.00/43 32.Rd1 Rg8 33.Qh5+ Kg7 34.Qg5+ Kf7 |
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| May-06-17 | | RandomVisitor: After 28.f3 black could have tried 28...Nc3
click for larger viewKomodo-10.1-64bit: <42 minutes computer time> <-1.81/37 28...Nc3> 29.Re1 Nxb5 30.Rd3 Kh8 31.h3 Nc7 32.Rb1 Qc6 33.Kh1 Rd7 34.Rbd1 Rg7 35.Qh4 Qg6 36.R1d2 b6 37.Qf2 b5 38.Kh2 Qd6+ 39.Kh1 Qa6 40.Qe1 Qg6 41.Qf2 Ra8 42.g4 Re8 43.Rd1 Qf6 44.f4 Re4 45.Kh2 Rc4 46.Qd2 h6 47.Kh1 b4 |
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