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Oct-05-16
 | | PawnSac: < chessdgc2: White's King deserves a Medal of Honor for being so brave.> here here! lol
< ...now that we've entered the endgame, White has 5 active pieces while Black is playing with 4! How many of you would have thought about bringing King Tut into the frey? > yea its interesting that the white K and Kn are able to hold it together. Opposite color bishops may suggest a draw, but it still remains to be seen what happens with the ensuing R play. like after ..Rb8 enticing white to play Rb1?! |
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| Oct-05-16 | | Ulhumbrus: One idea is 22...Nd7 beginning the plan of ...f6, ...Bf7 and ...Nb6 attacking White's c4 pawn |
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Oct-05-16
 | | Fusilli: I just checked in and I see white's king on f4, with two rooks and two minor pieces per side. Is this even legal?? |
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Oct-05-16
 | | An Englishman: Good Morning: Looking at 22...Re8. |
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Oct-05-16
 | | Sally Simpson: Moot point I thought I'd bring up before one of the sites more famous nit-pickers appears. Would you call this an endgame...
click for larger view...or is it still a middle game.
I thought an endgame was 'officially' an endgame when down to at the least two pieces per side. |
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| Oct-05-16 | | chessdgc2: PawnSac: Makes me wonder if Anand ever saw this in his prep work and whether Nepo ever prepared it? Most of us don't consider using our K as a fighting piece with still so much material on....amazing, even if it doesn't do more than draw, it could have easily lost without this idea. Go figure |
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Oct-05-16
| | Fusilli: <Sally Simpson> <I thought an endgame was 'officially' an endgame when down to at the least two pieces per side.> I assume you meant "at most" two pieces per side. I don't know, I don't remember seeing an official definition of endgame. I would call this a middle game. Admittedly, with the king on f4, a highly unusual one. |
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| Oct-05-16 | | cormier: propably 23.Nf3 ... |
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| Oct-05-16 | | cormier: he choose to attack the c5 pawn |
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Oct-05-16
| | Fusilli: Why 23.Nb3? If the purpose is to attack the c5 pawn, that doesn't make much sense to me. dxc5 would allow Ne5, with tactical motifs, and the white king is on f4. Is there any other purpose for 23.Nb3? |
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| Oct-05-16 | | cormier: he get's a benoni like pawn structure ... |
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Oct-05-16
| | Fusilli: 24...a5, no? What else is there? |
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Oct-05-16
| | PawnSac: < chessdgc2: Most of us don't consider using our K as a fighting piece with still so much material on....amazing, even if it doesn't do more than draw, it could have easily lost without this idea. > well it's clear white courageously skated on thin ice trying for an advantage in the center, even if only to maintain the initiative. And i commend him for fighting spirit. whether it was prepared or not, we'd have to hear in post game interview. Maybe i should go to the official live broadcast and wait for the end. |
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Oct-05-16
| | Sally Simpson: Hi Fusilli,
yes 'at most' sorry.
Are you today playing the role one of the most famous 'nit-pickers'. ;) I Was hoping someone would quote a Russian who said the endgame starts when the King becomes active. Then I can point to a 15 move King Hunt and say 'that folks, was an ending.' 
click for larger view24...a5, no? What else is there?
At a quick glance 24...Nb6. |
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| Oct-05-16 | | beenthere240: Courage my foot. |
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Oct-05-16
| | PawnSac: < Sally: 24...a5, no? What else is there? > certainly looks reasonable to me. Ideally black would like to ..Rae8 but ..a5 first keeps white from trying to hit c6. So maybe ..a5 Rae1 a4 Nd2 Rae8 etc? |
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Oct-05-16
| | Sally Simpson: The are going draw this. |
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Oct-05-16
| | PawnSac: ok off to post game interview |
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Oct-05-16
| | Sally Simpson: ...and I off to some work. |
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| Oct-05-16 | | chessdgc2: Chessgames.com: Thanks for the cast! See you guys and wish you all a good day |
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Oct-05-16
 | | Gypsy: <24...a5, no? What else is there? At a quick glance 24...Nb6.>
Hmm. As long as Black plays pieces in center and on the K-side, he seems to have a safe position: White has more space and central superiority; Black has better playing pieces, especially his bishop, and has that center tied up. I would avoid anything that would let that DSB (Ba3) have more play. (Thus no 24...Nb6. Also, no a7-a5 but probably Rae8) |
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Oct-05-16
| | Gypsy: And as I was writing it, the Rae8 was played and lead to a quick draw. |
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Oct-05-16
| | Fusilli: <Sally Simpson: Hi Fusilli ... Are you today playing the role one of the most famous 'nit-pickers'. ;)> lol, disturbing thought! But better than Stepford chess player. ;) |
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Oct-05-16
| | Sally Simpson: Preparation?
If so it came from a box. These things don't mind wandering Kings (and leaving pieces unprotected for a while on d2 and a3) if it can see no tactical way it is bad. I am very sceptical about theses post-game interviews. These are professional chess players whose job entails tricking and trapping opponents over a chessboard. I don't believe a word any of them are saying. It all depends on how Nepo wants to build the myth. Yes I prepared it, to show how clever and deep 'his' preparation was or say it was OTB creativity to show us was an imaginative guy he is. And the interviewers asked such mundane run-of-the-mill questions it makes me retch. They should ask real questions, proper questions. Instead we get this buddy-buddy drooling and gushing atmosphere. I shout at the screen. 'Ask him if he thinks there is life on Mars'. Go on you miserable dog. Ask him. But no. All they talk about is chess.
Huh!
And I want my pawn back.
Got an email saying I had to pay. I paid last year, how many times do you have to pay, every year? It's being held ransom and I'm being blackmailed. |
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Oct-05-16
| | PawnSac: Humorous quotes from the post game analysis:
Nepo: "So, Bg2 ..Nc6, <pause> I should go somewhere i guess"
Anand: "That's a good idea, always.. <grinning at Nepo>" Nepo: "Well if you want to make a draw you can go for Re4 or something."
Anand:"I think i DID make a draw! <smile>" Nepo: blab blab "I wasn't really sure if i wanted this in my game."
Anand: "No, losing on the spot is never a good idea! <grin>" |
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