| Aug-27-24 | | Allderdice83: Nice queen trap. But why 29. Qe3?? Why not 29. Qxa3? Also, I would have played 22. Bc5, forcing a trade of bishops. Why not trade pieces when up material, in the absence of anything more forcing? Especially since Black's left with a bunch of pieces all on the back rank. |
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| Aug-27-24 | | TheaN: Early bird on this Tuesday. Looked at 17.cxd6 for a while, as placing the bishop on c5 looks strong, but after 17....Nxd6 18.Bc5 White didn't really solve the issue of the knight on a5, and 18....Qxa5 19.Bxd6 ⩲ is a very minor plus. Then all of a sudden I noticed the Black queen's mobility. Is Qxa5 really an issue? If we take b4 it isn't, so <17.a3 Qxa5> there's no other safe square <18.Bb6 +-> and she has nowhere to go. I missed the opportunity for Black to play 18....Qxc3 with the text to follow and a bit of compensation, but ♕:♗♘ is simply winning. |
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| Aug-27-24 | | TheaN: <Allderdice83> fair points. Both 22.Bc5 and 29.Qxa3 are vastly superior. Somewhat ironically the move played in both cases is Qe3: I get it a bit more on move 22 than on move 29. The former she just cleared the f-file and kept the rather useless Black bishop on a3. The latter, I guess Qh6-Qxh7? Probably just missed the lateral hit on a3 (even though Qe3 is lateral so, point's not very valid). Talking 2000-2100 level here so some inaccuracies are to be expected, the combination itself was nice and she held the advantage. |
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| Aug-27-24 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: The king goes with 17. a3 Qxa5 18. Bb6! capturing the enemy's ♕... you know, guys.. the king loves it! |
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Aug-27-24
 | | takebackok: Smooth Tuesday, easy spot queen snag. 18. a3 light work after for the gg. |
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| Aug-27-24 | | Allderdice83: Why does White play 10. Qe1? 10. g4 would be more in the spirit of the opening. But Black makes one mistake after another, culminating in the blunder, 16 ... Qb4?? After that, there are some mistakes by both sides, but nothing that changes the outcome. White did miss a mate in 6 beginning with 28. Qxf6. |
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| Aug-27-24 | | mel gibson: I could see the Queen could be trapped but it took a while to see that move. Stockfish 16.1 says:
17. a3
(17. a3 (1.a3 Qxa5 2.Bb6 Qxc3 3.bxc3 Bd7 4.Bc5 Rc8 5.exd6 Bd8 6.Rhe1 h6 7.Rd3 Rc6 8.g4 f5 9.gxf5 Rxf5 10.Bd4
Rxf4 11.Qxf4 Bg5 12.Qxg5 hxg5 13.Re5 Rxd6 14.Bc5 Rxd3 ) +4.44/44 268) score for White +4.44 depth 44. |
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Aug-27-24
 | | NM JRousselle: Is the score correct? I would think White's final move should be Qa3. |
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Aug-27-24
 | | Teyss: Nice one. I hesitated with 17.Bb6? thinking the BQ is trapped anyway, but missed 17...dxe5! and now if 18.a3?, 18...Qxf4+ forces the exchange of Qs with advantage for Black. |
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Aug-27-24
 | | Honza Cervenka: <I would think White's final move should be Qa3.> Well, 29.Qe3 with a threat 30.Qh6 is just fine. |
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| Aug-27-24 | | TheaN: <NM JRousselle: Is the score correct? I would think White's final move should be Qa3.> Allderdice said so too and it is a fair point, because yes, Qe3-h6-xh7 is a decent plan but why complicate it? One scenario I'm considering is that this was a live board, White picked up her queen and started moving laterally, Black resigned on the spot and White just placed the queen on the closest square she could find... if that's the case the score should have been corrected in 29.1-0 but that was either forgotten or they didn't care enough. At least we can speculate about it seven years later. |
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Aug-27-24
 | | chrisowen: I pert mo its c u a3 its eh its duh its axiom juggle its aoh its jah its a3 dim; |
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Aug-27-24
 | | MarcusBierce: 1.a3 Qxa5 2.Bb6 |
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| Aug-27-24 | | YoungEd: Imagine my surprise when I got the correct answer in a flash! |
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| Aug-27-24 | | cocker: Presumably White played 28 Qg3+ with the intention of picking up the bishop, but 28 Qxf6 would have been much quicker. |
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Aug-27-24
 | | rodchuck: How does black defend the queen after 17. Bb6 immediately? |
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Aug-27-24
| | rodchuck: Ah, I've just seen the answer from Teyss - thanks! |
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| Aug-27-24 | | TheaN: <cocker: Presumably White played 28 Qg3+ with the intention of picking up the bishop, but 28 Qxf6 would have been much quicker.> Yeah, also a weird decision in hindsight. It's kind of obvious that after 28.Qxf6 Black only has 28....Nf5:
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Don't know why White didn't opt for this position. 29.Bc5 is fastest, but pretty much any move with the bishop is end of story: White then threatens Rd8+ and always has Qh8+ and Qxh7+ with a complete devastation. Sure, Qg3+ with Qxa3 will lead to resignation so what does it matter, but she could have taken the time for Qxf6. |
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sac: 17.a3