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Vladimir Saigin vs Isakas Vistaneckis
"Miss, Saigin" (game of the day Nov-01-2019)
Corr European Team Cup (1968) (correspondence), corr E-Wilhelm-C.
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Normal Variation. Gligoric System (E53)  ·  0-1

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Oct-14-19
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  jessicafischerqueen:

J Vistaneckis is Isakas Vistaneckis.

He should be folded in to the Isakas Vistaneckis page, along with the game WS Saigin vs J Vistaneckis, 1968.

Correction submitted.

Oct-15-19  hemy: Missing moves from 11 to 23.
Full game score was posted by me on May 13, 2018: Isakas Vistaneckis
Oct-18-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  jessicafischerqueen:

<hemy> Very good catch, thank you !

Did you submit this game to <cg.com>, or was it someone else who saw your posted score on the Isakas Vistaneckis page and then submitted it? I might have submitted it, though I don't remember doing so.

Anyways I know what is wrong here. There are two mistakes made by the uploader. We can't just copy and paste game scores into the <PGN Upload Utility> without checking at least two important details:

First, check spelling on the player names against the existing spelling used at cg.com.

Second, run the score through a chess computer, which will fix notation errors.

If you click "view" from this game, you can see the score that you originally posted on the Isakas Vistaneckis page:

[Event "Corr European Team Cup"]
[Site "corr E-Wilhelm-C."]
[Date "1968.??.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "0-1"]
[White "WS Saigin"]
[Black "J Vistaneckis"]
[ECO "E53"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "46"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e3 O-O 5. Nf3 d5 6. Bd3 c5 7. O-O Nbd7 8. a3 Ba5 9. Bd2 a6 10. Ne5 Bb6 11. cd5 cd4 12. ed4 Bd4 13. Nf7 Rf7 14. de6 Rf8 15. ed7 Bd7 16. Ne2 Ba7 17. h3 Bc6 18. Bc4 Kh8 19. Ng3 Qc7 20. Qb3 Ng4 21. hg4 Rf3 22. Nf5 Rb3 23. Bb3 Qb6 0-1

We can now easily see where the mistakes came from:

First, the spelling at cg.com uses is Isakas Vistaneckis, Not J Vistaneckis.

Second, look at the moves after 10...Bb6: <11. cd5 cd4> cannot be read by <Olga>, it has to be <11. cxd5 cxd4>. There are more notation errors if you read further in the score. None of the captures has the <x> notation.

So both the player name "J Vistaneckis" and the score needs to be corrected in this upload.

I will ask <Annie> if I should submit another correction slip, or if I should submit a corrected pgn. Maybe she will fix it from the data we have presented here on the game page.

Oct-18-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: "Miss, Saigin"
Oct-18-19  hemy: <JFQ> I can not recall if I submitted this game to CG, but anyway I had to check the notation and name before posting it. I just copied it from ichessbase.com.

Regarding his name - In Lithuanian it is "Isakas Vistaneckis", in Russian "Isaak Vistanetzki", in Hebrew "Itzhak Vistanetzki" (not Itzhak Vistinetzki, wrongly translated and used in many sources).

His partner in this game was 7 times Belarussian champion Vladimir Sergeevich Saigin.

Oct-18-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  jessicafischerqueen:

<hemy> Thanks for additional information on spelling. I think possibly the spelling on the original ichessbase.com file came from a German source? "J" for "I".

The more I think about this the more I think it likely that I uploaded this game score some months ago.

I uploaded almost a hundred games with improper game scores until <Annie> told me the best method for checking them with my chess engine.

Here are two games collections of documented bad scores I uploaded in the past, all of which <Annie> has kindly fixed now. It was <Chessdreamer> who originally pointed this out to me:

Game Collection: Chessdreamer List of pgns CORRECTED

Game Collection: Chessdreamer List of pgns CORRECTED 2

Nov-01-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: I don't understand the point of 22. Nf5.

But 22. Be3 is no better: 22...Rxg3 23. fxg3 Qxg3 24.Qc2 Bxe3+ 25. Rf2 (25. Kh1 Qh3#) Qxg2#.

Nov-01-19  goodevans: <al wazir: I don't understand the point of 22. Nf5. But 22. Be3 is no better...>

As you suggest, white was already in a hopeless position by then. At least <22.Nf5> holds out some hope of a counterattack if only white can find time to play <Bc3>. In fact, as far as I can see, <23...Qb6> is the <only> move that prevents white getting the upper hand.

What I don't understand is where white lost this. After the series of exchanges on moves 11 to 15 white looks to be in a strong position. Did he go wrong somewhere after this or was black's attacking potential such that he can force an advantage whatever white does?

Nov-01-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: White had to untangle his d file, with tempo. 19. Bb4 would have accomplished that.
Nov-01-19  faulty: I agree with Ohio. Seems that before move 19, white was winning. after Ng3, no way back
Nov-01-19  whiteshark: "The brain is like a muscle. When it is in use we feel very good. Understanding is joyous."

-- Carl S.

Nov-01-19  Ironmanth: I like this game; great and cogent comments on the analysis, too! I agree I cannot really discern where White went wrong. This one's a keeper. Thanks, chessgames. May all have a wonderful Fall weekend.
Nov-01-19  faulty: By the way, Vistaneckis was the highest scoring player in the tournament. He played on board 2 and scored 8.5/9
Nov-01-19  hemy: In 1964 Vistaneckis accepted request of Lithuanian chess federation to join Lithuanian team in Correspondence European Team Cup tournament.

"Analysis was my strength and mistakes I'm making can be avoided playing correspondence," he said.

Vistaneckis played on the 2nd board, scoring 7.5 points out of 8 in the finals (and 11 out of 12 with qualifying matches), making the absolute best score in competition and contributed significantly to the team's European Cup. Following this competition, he was awarded the title of International Master of the ICCF.

Source: Vladas Mikėnas, I. Vistaneckis, A. Uogelė, "Europos taurė", Mintis, Vilnius, 1975, p. 317.

This game from the match Lithuania - Russian federation, was published in the "Europos taurė" ("Europe cup") with comments of Vistaneckis.

In prologue to the game comments Vistaneckis wrote:
"I was delighted to learn that my partner from the Russian Federation team will master V. Saigin, who now lives permanently in Piatigorsk. We and Vladimir are old friends - from the early forties.
I could divide year 1941 into two parts. The first half - maybe the happiest in my life. I became the first champion of the Lithuanian SSR and got the right to participate in the USSR semi-final in Rostov-on-Don. I was given the opportunity to dedicate my life to chess. So in the semifinals I had 5 points from 7 games and I was among the leaders.
In June 22nd Hitler's Germany invaded the Soviet Union. I had not yet realized the tragedy of all those events that lasted for four years. Me and V. Mikėnas were still trying to return home, but we were told in Moscow that Lithuania had already been captured. Almost all my relatives and friends perished. My wife was lucky enough to retreat to the depths of the Soviet Union. She also kept a silver cup in my small suitcase - my first important prize I received when I became a Baltic Champion. I remembered all this when I learned that I would have to compete with the multiple champion of Belarus.

Game with Saigin was my best, played in the European Cup."

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