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James Mason vs Frederick Perrin
Casual game (1873), New York City NY USA, Jun-??
Italian Game: Two Knights Defense (C55)  ·  1-0

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Sep-20-23  Brenin: I chose 20 Rxd5+ Kxd5 21 Qd3+ Ke6 22 Qd7 mate, overlooking 21 ... Bd4+ 22 cxd4, which still wins for White, e.g. 22 ... c4 23 Rb5+ Ke6 24 Qe4+ and mate in a few moves.
Sep-20-23
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  GoldenKnight: The power of the two bishops on full display.
Sep-20-23
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  GoldenKnight: It's a forced mate whether Black takes or not.
Sep-20-23  Mayankk: Black is threatening Qxg2# but its King has walked up to the centre of board for some reason. And we all know what happens to a King trapped in centre of board.

First candidate move is 20 Rxd5+ but there's no obvious quick mate after 20 ... Kxd5 21 Qd3+ Bd4 although White is likely winning.

We then notice the elegant Queen sac and mate-in-5 20 Qxc5+ Kxc5 21 Ba3+ Kc4 22 Bb5+ Kxc3 23 Rd3+ Kc2 24 Rc1#. All forced and no side-lines for distraction.

Sep-20-23  BxChess: I went with 20. Rxd5+ Kxd5 21. Ba3. Its quite a quiet move, but mate appears inevitable. Not as neat as the game line.
Sep-20-23  King.Arthur.Brazil: B ♔ seems nude like Adam, being his ♗ a grape leaf. Let's take this leaf out! 20. Rxd5+ Kxd5 21. 21. Qd3+ (Ke6 22. Qd7#) Bd4+ 22. cxd4 c4 23. Rb5+ Kd6 24. Ba3+ Ke6 25. Qe4+ Kd7 26. Rxb7+ (Kc8 27. Qc6+ Kd8 28. Be7#) Kd8 27. Qe7+ Kc8 28. Qc7#.

Or 23... Kc6 24. Qxc4+ Kd6 25. Ba3+ Kd7 26. Rxb7+ Kd8 27. Qc7#. The position is so opened that the check mate is matter of time. For 22... b6 23. dxc5+ Kxc5 24. Be3# Even 22... Kd6 23. dxc5+ Kc7 24. Qd5 Rab8 25. Qd6+ Kc8 26. c6 b6 27. Ba3 Rd8 28. Qe5 Qe6?! 29. c7.

I didn't see it! Fantastic 20. Qxc5+! Ke6 21. Qxd5+ Ke7 22. Qd6#

Sep-20-23
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: 19.Rb1 was a diabolical trap.
Sep-20-23  mel gibson: I didn't spend more than 5 seconds on this and I guessed 20. Rxd5+

Stockfish 16 says mate in 4:

20. Qxc5+

(20. Qxc5+ (Qe3xc5+ Kd6xc5 Bc1-a3+ Kc5-c4 Ba4-b5+ Kc4xc3 Rb1-c1+) +M4/245 2)

Following my guess it's mate in 11.

20. Rxd5+

(20. Rxd5+ Kxd5 (Kd6xd5 Qe3-d3+ Bf6-d4+ c3xd4 c5-c4 Rb1-b5+ Kd5-e6 Qd3-e4+ Ke6-f6 Qe4-e5+ Kf6-g6 f4-f5+ Kg6-h5 h2-h3 Qg4-g5 Ba4-d1+ Kh5-h6 Bc1xg5+ Kh6xg5 f5-f6+ Kg5-h6 Qe5-g5+) -M11/72 39)

Sep-20-23
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  perfidious: My first thought was 20.Rxd5+ Kxd5 21.Qd3+ Bd4+ 22.cxd4, which should win in view of the bereft black king, before spotting the more incisive 20.Qxc5+ Kxc5 21.Ba3+ Kc4 22.Bb5+ Kxc3 23.Rbc1#.
Sep-20-23  agb2002: White is one pawn down.

Black threatens Qxg2#.

White has a mating attack: 20.Qxc5+ Kxc5 (20... Ke6 21.Qxd5+ Ke7 22.Qd6#) 21.Ba3+ Kc4 22.Bb5+ Kxc3 23.Bb4+ Kc2 24.Ba4+ Bb3 25.Bxb3#.

Sep-20-23  agb2002: If I received one euro for each missed mate in one...
Sep-20-23  Dezaxa: I don't see why White didn't play 15 Bg5. It looks crushing.
Sep-20-23  jffun1958: I saw 20. Qxc5+ Kxc5 21. Ba3+ Kc4, but missed 22. Bb5+.
Sep-20-23  TheaN: Saw the game line in full so no need to repeat it, and in case of 20....Ke6 21.Qxd5+ Ke7 22.Qd6#.

These kind of mating nets are not that difficult, simply because an enemy king surrounded by four to five pieces is bound to get stuck somewhere. King's limited mobility and the fact that check has to be addressed contribute to this. Here, once you see 21.Ba3+ forces the king up the board (from Black's point of view), you're pretty much done.

Sep-20-23
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  chrisowen: Waft pier q banal it's log juicy it's had Qxc5 abluff frazzled it's doh it's axiom juggle it's bear ya it's Qxc5 dim?
Sep-20-23  King.Arthur.Brazil: <Dezaxa> probably, you though in the case of B answer: <15. Bg5+ f6 16. exf6+ > Bxf6?! 17. Bxf6+ Kxf6 18. Qxc3+ Kf7 19. Rad1, when W has advantage and attack. However, B could answer <15. Bg5+ f6 16. exf6+> Kf7 17. fxg7? Qxg5 18. g3 Kxg7 19. bxc3 Bf6 with an extra piece. Even, the case of: 17. fxg7? Qxg5 18. g3 Nxa4 19. gxh8=Q Rxh8 20. Rab1 Nxb2 and seems B has better chances.

Between these 2 lines: 17. bxc3 gxf6 18. cxd4 fxg5 19. dxc5 Be6, W has earned only ♙... therefore, he wanted more and chose another continuation...

<Mel Gibson> fishouse finds precisely combinations up to 5 moves... when we, lets put as an "aspirant to master level" (if so much) cannot find such moves so quick or even see it, sometimes. Thus, to play against computers, you cannot use your "tactical" skills for attack, but for defense and the positional criteria is what can make the difference (if any) in this kind of struggle.

Sep-20-23  Hercdon: My move, Rxd4, also results in mate, in 12
Sep-20-23  Hercdon: Oops, Rxd5+

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