| Oct-04-22 | | goodevans: Black never stood a chance! |
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| Oct-04-22 | | whiteshark: Is Mikko Niemi Niemann's Finnish pseudonym? From the playing strength it would also fit... |
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| Oct-05-22 | | Granny O Doul: And does the name also mean "German", ala Nimzowitsch and Namath? |
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May-02-24
 | | Korora: Oh, I had White's next two moves in reverse order. |
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| May-02-24 | | jffun1958: 21. Nxc7+ forks the Ra8 but 21. ... Ke7 22. Nxa8 is not the solution, for Black has also 21. ... Bxc7. |
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| May-02-24 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: The king proposes: 21. Nxc7+ (Qxc7?? Qxa8+ and Qxh8 next), Bxc7 (forced), 22. Qc6+ [Kf8 23. Qxf6+ Ke8 24. Qxh8+ (Kf8 23. Qxf6+ Ke8 24. Qxh8+ win good material)] Kd8 23. Qxf6+ Kd7 24. Be6+ Kc6 25. Bxf5+ Bd6 26. Be4+ etc. B could not play: 22... Ke7? 23. Qe6+ (Kf8 24. Qf7#) Kd8 24. Qxf6+ Kd7 25. Be6+ Kc6 26. Bxf5+ reenter in the same maneuver before. |
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| May-02-24 | | Allderdice83: After 22 ... Kd8, I was thinking 23. Be6 Qb5 (only move to stop 24. Qd7#, other than 23 ... Qc8 24. Bxc8), 24. Qxa8+ Qb8, and White can just trade down to a won endgame -- 25. Qxb8+ Bxb8 26. Bxf5 gxf5 27. Rxa4. I saw the text line also. Not sure which is better. Both seem to win. |
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| May-02-24 | | mel gibson: The first ply was easy but not after that.
Stockfish 16.1 declines the Knight and says:
21. Nxc7+
(21. Nxc7+ (1.Nxc7+ Ke7 2.Nxa8 Qxa8 3.Bd5 Qe8 4.c3 h5 5.Rfd1
Kf8 6.Bc6 Qc8 7.Bxa4 Kg7 8.Qc6 Rf8 9.Qd7+ Qxd7 10.Bxd7 Bb8 11.Bxf5 gxf5
12.Rd7+ Kg6 13.Rad1 Rc8 14.Rd8 Rxc3 ) +4.69/44 247) score for White +4.69 depth 44.
If I force SF to accept the Knight as per the game: 21. Nxc7+ Bxc7
22. Qc6+ (22. Qc6+ (1.Qc6+ Ke7 2.Qe6+ Kd8 3.Qxf6+ Kc8 4.Qxh8+ Kd7 5.Rfd1+ Bd6 6.Qxh7+ Ne7 7.Qh3+ Nf5 8.Bd5 Ra7 9.Be4 Ke7 10.Bxf5
gxf5 11.Qxf5 Rd7 12.Rxa4 Qb5 13.Raa1 Bc7 14.Qh7+ Ke8) +7.58/41 269) score for White +7.58 depth 41. |
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May-02-24
 | | chrisowen: I lag its work q dupe v Nxc7+ affect pet its coffin abe leeway its dub choose its acrobat mob afford puff Nxc7+ its off; |
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| May-02-24 | | Allderdice83: On rechecking, 23. Be6 definitely wins, but 23. Qxf6+ is much better. |
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May-02-24
| | chrisowen: yes socket back |
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| May-02-24 | | Besrqe: I was looking at 3 candidates (21. g4, 21. Nxc7+, and 21. Qc6+) and wanted to point out they're all strong actually. I was partial to the Queen check and would play it OTB. When analyzing the position, one can notice that Black is completely uncoordinated and every White piece is better than its Black counterpart. In particular, both of White's Rooks are much better and the Knight on e6 is the Steinitz vs von Bardeleben Hastings 1895 "bone in the throat", as Steinitz named it. Most importantly, the Black King has no where safe to go and White has the force and time in this position to come after it. I suggest loading the puzzle position into an interface with an engine and playing all 3 candidates. You'll see how strong White's position is and how helpless Black is to do anything about it. In other words, there's no need to hurry or find a knockout, Black is on already on the ropes. Within a few moves, White can secure a 5pt=Rook advantage or more for all 3 candidates with reasonable play no matter what Black does. Again, the lines after 21. Qc6+ Ke7, R(a or f)d1 were the most fun to me : P |
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| May-02-24 | | mel gibson: < Besrqe: I was looking at 3 candidates (21. g4, 21. Nxc7+, and 21. Qc6+) and wanted to point out they're all strong actually. > Yes - you're right.
Using Stockfish 16.1 -
I actually tried 7 other possible moves for 21:
21. g4
21. Qc6+
21. Rad1
21. Rfd1
21. Bd5
21. Qd5
21. f4
And they all yield between a 3 point and 4 point advantage for White.
Black is busted. |
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May-02-24
 | | NM JRousselle: White has an overwhelming position. There are many roads that lead to victory. These include:
Nc7+, Qc6, g4, Rad1 and even f4. |
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May-02-24
 | | perfidious: One hardly needs <fishie> to appreciate that, despite Tari's two-pawn deficit, the position is une embarras de richesse; he controls all the avenues. |
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Kibitzing
sac: 21.Nxc7+