|
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 2 OF 4 ·
Later Kibitzing> |
| Sep-26-05 | | who: <Gazman5> see Ray Keene's kibbitzing on Keene vs E Schiller, 1985 |
|
Sep-26-05
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Gazman5, White can still try 3.Bf4, 3.Bg5, or 3.Nf3, although Black has the curious response 3...Qb6!? vs. all of them. Provocative vs. 3.Bg5 is 3...Nf6!?; 4.Bxf6!?,exf6!?; 5.e4!?,dxe4; 6.Nxe4. This pawn formation stinks for Black in the regular Caro-Kann, but might work here, thanks to the two Bishops. After 3.Bg5!?,Qb6!?; I would be tempted to play either side of 4.Qd2!?,Qxb2!?; 5.Rb1,Qa3; 6.e4!?,e6. |
|
| Nov-09-05 | | SEMENELIN: I just wanna share my game in this page hope you'll like the trap. =) [White "West"]
[Black "SEMENELIN"]
[WhiteElo "1562"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Event "InstantChess"]
[BlackIFlag "Philippines"]
[WhiteIFlag "Finland"]
1.d4 d5 2.e3 a6 3.h3 Nf6
4.Nf3 Bf5 5.a3 e6 6.Bd3 Nbd7
7.Bxf5 exf5 8.Bd2 Bd6 9.Bb4 c5
10.dxc5 Nxc5 11.Bxc5 Bxc5 12.Ne5
O-O 13.f4 Ne4 14.Nd2 Bxe3
15.Nxe4 dxe4 16.g3 Qa5+ 17.Ke2
Rfd8 18.Qe1 Rd2+ 19.Kxe3 Rad8
20.b4 Qb6# 0-1
|
|
| Nov-11-05 | | radu stancu: Has any of you had to deal with 6...Qd6 in the Blackmar-Dieter Gambit? As in: 1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3 exf3 5. Qxf3 Qxd4 6. Be3 Qd6. I continued with 7. h3 Nc6 8. Bd3 and black had a pretty good position after 8...Ne5. Guess I should have played 7. Nb5 to either get the queen to d8 or to leave the d file altogether. If you have any other ideas... |
|
| Dec-03-05 | | KingG: Does anyone have a good system to play as Black against the Stonewall setup? I hate playing against this opening and have a horrible score against it. |
|
Dec-03-05
 | | Eric Schiller: <KingG> John Watson and I provide a remedy in our forthcoming book "How to Succeed in the Queen Pawn Openings". If you'd like to see the proof of the relevant sections, just drop me an email (address available at my website www.ericschiller.com). We still have a few days left in the proofing period, and then the book will head to the printer in a week or so. The book covers all the sharp and tricky lines in the 1.d4 d5 openings. You can request a PDF proof of either the White lines or the Black lines. |
|
| Dec-03-05 | | KingG: <Eric Schiller> Ok, thank you. I'll send you an e-mail. |
|
| Dec-29-05 | | Averageguy: This is a game I played against a 1459 player in the London System yesterday and I would like to know what the kibitzers here thought of it. I was black: 1.d4 d5 2.Bf4 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nd2 b6 6.Nf3 e6 7.Bd3 Bb7 8.0-0 Bd6 9.Bg5 0-0 10.Qb1 h6 (A mistake, now he has the chance to exchange on f6 and play e4, but he passes this up.) 11.Bh4 e5 12.de Nxe5 13.Nxe5 Bxe5 14.Nf3 Bc7 15.Be2 Qd6 16.Bg3 Qc6 17.Bxc7 Qxc7 18.Qf5 a6 (I wanted to bring a rook to the e-file wihtout allowing Bb5.) 19.Rfd1 Rfe8 20.Rd2 (A mistake, now I just gain a tempo.) 20...Ne4 21.Rd1 g6 22.Qg4 Kh7 23.Nd2 f5 24.Qh3 Rf8 25.Qh4 f4 26.Nxe4 de 27.ef Rxf4 (Here is was worried about 28.Rd7+ but he didn't play it.)28.Qh3 Be6 29.Bg4 Raf8 30.Rd2 Qf7 31.Rad1 (If 31.Rf1 then 31...e3 wins.) 31...Rxf2 32.Rd7 Bxd7 33.Resigns (33.Rxd7 Rf1#) Comments and thoughts would be appreciated. |
|
Dec-29-05
 | | tpstar: <Averageguy> Nice game! You played a very solid set-up against the London System and got a great position. Note if 5. Nf3 Black could play 5 ... Qb6 Opening Explorer with good results. Consider 8 ... Be7 protecting your KB while intending a later ... Nh5 to get his Bf4 off the board. I like how you equalized with 11 ... e5 and chances are even. Notice Move 21 should be 21. Rdd1 (also 28 ... Bc6) ;>D then that was great how you got 23 ... f5 in with tempo. I agree that 28. Rd7+ would improve for White but it still looks even. Very good technique to triple on the half open f file, then crash through to win. Good annotations. You outlined the ideas well, but try to include more specific variations and improvements for both sides next time. Also, consider saving your games under a database game so you can find them later, instead of by ECO designation. Strong work. =) |
|
| Jan-01-06 | | Averageguy: <tpstar>Thanks for the comments!
You're right, 8...Be7 probably would have been an improvement. I didn't look at that. And yes, I had some stupid typos, thanks for pointing those out. |
|
| Jan-01-06 | | DeepBlade: <SEMENELIN> Nice game! [Event "InstantChess"]<I also play there, my nickname is Steve Neezly and sometimes Vegas_BloodMoney or NoName>
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "West"]
[Black "SEMENELIN"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "1562"]
[PlyCount "40"]
1. d4 d5 2. e3 a6 3. h3 Nf6 4. Nf3 Bf5 5. a3 e6 6. Bd3 Nbd7 7. Bxf5 exf5 8. Bd2 Bd6 9. Bb4 c5 10. dxc5 Nxc5 11. Bxc5 Bxc5 12. Ne5 O-O 13. f4 Ne4 14. Nd2 Bxe3 <you missed an mate in 4> (14... Qh4+ 15. g3 Qxg3+ 16. Ke2 Qxe3+ 17. Kf1 Qf2#) 15. Nxe4 dxe4 16. g3 Qa5+ 17. Ke2 Rfd8 18. Qe1 Rd2+ 19. Kxe3 <now its an mate in 5 for White> Rad8 20. b4 (20. Nd3 Rxc2 21. Qd1 Qb6+ 22. Nc5 Qxc5+ 23. Qd4 Qxd4#) 20... Qb6# |
|
| Jan-01-06 | | Averageguy: <SEMENELIN> Good game! Very nice mating combination at the end. 2...a6 probably wasn't nesscessery, there was no threat of a check on b5, but you achieved a good position out of the opening. After 6.Bd3, you might want to have looked at 6...Bg6, as the trade after 7.Bxg6 hg gives you the open h-file, but your move was good too. If you had wanted to get in ...c5 however, 8...c5 was better then delaying it, 9...c5 allowed him to play 10.dxc5 winning a tempo on your bishop. Also, did you look at 9...Bxb4 10.axb4 Qe7 ? After white defends his pawn with 11.c3 or 11.Qd2 for instance, 11...f4 is poosible, dissolving your doubled f-pawn and leaving white with a backward pawn on e3 no matter what he does. Also, after 7...exf5 earlier 9...c5 leaves the d and f pawns a little weak after the exchanges. 12.Ne5 was a mistake on his behalf, 12.Nd4 blockading the d-pawn was better. Notice that after 13.f4 the e-pawn could be taken immediately. As <DeepBlade> pointed out, you missed a forced mate beginning with 14...Qh4+, but it was a minor blip that happens to everyone. From then on you gave an impressive and convincing display of how to attack a king not yet castled. Well done, it was a fine game, keep up the good work. :-) |
|
| Mar-07-06 | | notyetagm: Can someone suggest a way of playing against the <Stonewall Attack>? I just lost another blitz game as Black to this infernal beast. I hate playing these blocked positions. Any suggestions much appreciated. |
|
| Mar-07-06 | | foolishmovesss: <notyetagm> Wish I could help. I have the same problem. I play this for white and have good results, but hate to see it played against me. How do you respond to d4? I assume d5. I personally play the Tarrasch against everything except e4( or birds or something else like that) I find hoever that as white my Stonewall attack setup only works well against pawns on d5 and e6 by black. Perhaps playing for a QID set up would be a good choice. OR you could also setup with a Stonewall yourself. If you go with the QID note that your bishop can go to a6 and try to trade light squared bishops. It usually works best once white has castled kingside and the bishop is pinned to the rook. Of course QID doesnt really envolve d5. However you can just play your normal setup as black and if white goes Stonewall, try for the b7 Ba6 line I suggested. White really dosen't want to lose that bishop. Hope it helps a little. One last thing I guggest not taking whites knight on e5 unless you really have to. Also avoid taking whites dark squared bishop. The reason not to take the knight on e5 is because when pawn takes back it is pretty strong. Really the problem is if you take they get a good position and if you don't they get a good position. I really hate the stonewall if playing against it. Thats why I employ it myself. --Foolish |
|
| Mar-12-06 | | notyetagm: <foolishmovesss> In his excellent book How To Beat 1 d4, a repertoire book based on the Queen's Gambit Accepted, IM Rizzitano has a 3-page chapter on defending against the Stonewall Attack. He recommends the following line: 1 d4 d5 2 e3 ♘f6 3 ♗d3 c5 4 c3 ♘c6 5 f4 ♗g4 6 ♘f3 e6 7 0-0 ♗d6 reaching the following position:
click for larger view7 ... ♗d6 creates a nasty positional trap. If White continues naturally with 8 ♘bd2?!, then 8 ... cxd4! gives him positional problems. Rizzitano calls 8 ... cxd4! an "important resource" in this position. He then continues with
8 ♕e1 0-0 9 ♘e5 ♗f5 10 ♗e2 ♕b6
and gives suggestions for further play by Black, especially against the lunge g4, which is unsound unless White has prefaced it with ♔h1. I am going to order the book this week. This analysis is what I memorized in a local Barnes & Noble on Saturnday. ;-) |
|
| Mar-13-06 | | Dudley: That's a pretty good memory you have, notyetagm. Like Rizzitano suggests, Black can always defuse the Stonewall if he gets his QB out to g4 or f5 before playing ...e6. Also, if you have not committed to ..e6 than a setup with a K side fianchetto and ...c5, ...Nbd7 is good. Then there is the "main line" refutation exemplified by the game Vliet-Znosko-Borovsky, Ostend 1907, where black plays Nc6 before moving his c pawn. Really, there are several good ways of proving the inferiority of this setup, the trick is to see it coming early enough in the game. Just remember, there is a good reason it hasn't been played at the top levels for decades- its just not that good. I am not saying I haven't played it myself -its fun but sooner or later you realize the basic inadequacy of the opening. |
|
| Mar-13-06 | | notyetagm: <Dudley> Not really a good memory; I am just sick and tired of losing to this crap on ICC and am determined to learn a method to defuse it. |
|
| Mar-13-06 | | Dudley: Good luck, shouldn't be too hard. Also I forgot one: the King's Indian proper with a K side fianchetto and ...d6, ...e5 makes the Stonewall setup practically unplayable. How do I know all this? Well there was this guy at the club who kept beating me with the Stonewall... |
|
| Mar-13-06 | | notyetagm: <Dudley: Good luck, shouldn't be too hard. Also I forgot one: the King's Indian proper with a K side fianchetto and ...d6, ...e5 makes the Stonewall setup practically unplayable.> That's a good idea, if only I knew the KID.
:-)
|
|
| Mar-13-06 | | foolishmovesss: <notyetagm> I agree that if the bishop is outside the pawn structure then the stonewall can be difused. However as I stated I play the tarrash d5 e6 c5. So i can't very well play the bishop outside the pawn structure. If I knew that the stonewall was going to be played then I would probably play different. Problem is you dont usually know they are going to play the stonewall untill move four. At this point I will already have played e6 and taken away the bishop comming out as an option. So I am kinda in a tight spot since I play the Tarrasch. It works great against alot of things. Just not so good against the stonewall. I cant change my opening hoping to get a stone wall because if I dont get it, I am not going to be very happy. Thanks for the advice. |
|
| Mar-13-06 | | notyetagm: <foolishmovesss> That's an advanage of the QGA. My first two moves are 1 ... d5 and 2 ... ♘f6. If I see 1 d4, 2 e3, 3 ♗d3, then I know the Stonewall is probably coming and lash out at the center with 3 ... c5, then play 4 ... ♘c6 and 5 ... ♗g4. |
|
| Mar-13-06 | | foolishmovesss: <notyetagm> True, but then I have to change my whole opening setup. This does not seem like such a good idea, because I play the Tarrasch positions well, even with the IQP. To change my opening just to avoid the Stonewall seems a little foolish, mostly becasue I see the Stonewall attack so little. I just have to tough it out, and look for similar ideas as the QGA, the only difference really is the QB is inside the pawn chain. Good point though about the QGA move order. |
|
| Mar-13-06 | | foolishmovesss: E Delmar vs Lasker, 1901 Now here is a good plan for black against the stonewall attack. Good old Lasker. This is not a plan I have ever even considered. |
|
| Mar-13-06 | | notyetagm: Castling queenside is kind of an obviou plan against the Stonewall, since the White f4-pawn makes is easier to lever open the g-file. |
|
| Mar-13-06 | | Dudley: <foolishmoves> If you see 1.d4 d5 2.e3 e6 3.f4 you know its a stonewall and you can go for the main line refutation mentioned above with ...Nc6 before you even move your c pawn. Also, you can simply delay the move ..e6, as it's not needed unless white moves c4, and this gives you the option of developing your QB outside the pawn chain. Look at the Vliet- Znosko Borovsky game which is found in the book Logical Chess by Chernev, and should be in the database here. |
|
 |
|
|
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 2 OF 4 ·
Later Kibitzing> |
Kibitzing
