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Queen's Pawn Game (D00)
1 d4 d5

Number of games in database: 8118
Years covered: 1770 to 2025
Overall record:
   White wins 40.3%
   Black wins 34.1%
   Draws 25.6%

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PRACTITIONERS
With the White Pieces With the Black Pieces
Emil Diemer  119 games
Julian Hodgson  63 games
Igor Miladinovic  54 games
John Cochrane  30 games
Michele Godena  22 games
NN  19 games
NOTABLE GAMES [what is this?]
White Wins Black Wins
Capablanca vs J Baca Arus, 1912
E Diemer vs Portz, 1948
Erdos vs Lichtner, 1922
L van Vliet vs Znosko-Borovsky, 1907
K Regan vs R Michell, 1905
Tarrasch vs Chigorin, 1895
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 page 1 of 325; games 1-25 of 8,118 
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. D Ponziani vs D Ercole Del Rio 0-1101770ModenaD00 Queen's Pawn Game
2. J Sarratt vs NN 1-0161818EnglandD00 Queen's Pawn Game
3. La Bourdonnais vs McDonnell 0-1361834La Bourdonnais - McDonnell 1st Casual MatchD00 Queen's Pawn Game
4. La Bourdonnais vs McDonnell 0-1531834La Bourdonnais - McDonnell 2nd Casual MatchD00 Queen's Pawn Game
5. La Bourdonnais vs McDonnell 1-0551834La Bourdonnais - McDonnell 1st Casual MatchD00 Queen's Pawn Game
6. The Hague vs Amsterdam  0-1301834UnknownD00 Queen's Pawn Game
7. H Seligo vs von der Lasa  0-1141837von der Lasa - Seligo Casual SeriesD00 Queen's Pawn Game
8. Staunton vs Cochrane  ½-½291842Casual gameD00 Queen's Pawn Game
9. A Mongredien vs C Forth  ½-½371843Casual gameD00 Queen's Pawn Game
10. Borsdorff vs A Peter 0-1321844SwitzerlandD00 Queen's Pawn Game
11. A Alexandre vs Kieseritzky  0-1451845Café de la Régence, ParisD00 Queen's Pawn Game
12. E Lowe vs H A Kennedy 1-0481849MatchD00 Queen's Pawn Game
13. Amsterdam vs Zeist  1-0451849correspondenceD00 Queen's Pawn Game
14. J S Mucklow vs E S Kennedy 1-0621851LondonD00 Queen's Pawn Game
15. Cochrane vs Moheschunder 1-0251854Casual gameD00 Queen's Pawn Game
16. R Brien vs Falkbeer 1-0601855Falkbeer - BrienD00 Queen's Pawn Game
17. Cochrane vs Saumchurn 0-1301855Casual gameD00 Queen's Pawn Game
18. Saumchurn vs Cochrane 0-1341855Casual gameD00 Queen's Pawn Game
19. Saumchurn vs Cochrane 0-1281855Casual gameD00 Queen's Pawn Game
20. Saumchurn vs Cochrane  0-1411855Casual gameD00 Queen's Pawn Game
21. Saumchurn vs Cochrane  0-1471855Casual gameD00 Queen's Pawn Game
22. Saumchurn vs Cochrane ½-½381855Casual gameD00 Queen's Pawn Game
23. Saumchurn vs Cochrane  0-1321855Casual gameD00 Queen's Pawn Game
24. Saumchurn vs Cochrane 0-1251855Casual gameD00 Queen's Pawn Game
25. Cochrane vs Saumchurn  0-1331855Casual gameD00 Queen's Pawn Game
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May-08-06  Ludamad: I had a rather strange win in this ECO code. My opponent thought for awhile, missed the obvious defence, decided that he could get away with only the exchange down, and missed an obvious checkmate.

[White "AdamD"]
[Black "NN"]
[Result "1-0"]

1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3
f5 4.f3 exf3 5.Nxf3 g6
6.Bc4 Nf6 7.Ne5 Rg8 8.Bf7# 1-0

Jun-04-06  DeepBlade: <Ludamad> Indeed, nice miniature, Black seriously missed the 7. ...e6 defence.

A contribute to Emil Josef Diemer, a game in the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit

[White "DeepBlade"]
[Black "NN"]
[BlackElo "1642"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Event "InstantChess"]

1.e4 d5 2.d4 dxe4 3.Nc3
f5 4.f3 exf3 5.Nxf3 Nf6
6.Bf4 e6 7.Bd3 Bd7 8.O-O Be7
9.Ne5 O-O 10.Qd2 c5 11.Ne2 Nc6
12.Bh6 cxd4 13.Qg5 Ne8 14.Qg3
Nxe5 15.Qxe5 Bf6 16.Qg3 Bc6
17.Nf4 Be5 18.Rae1 Qf6 19.Bg5
Bxf4 20.Rxf4 Qg6 21.Rg4 Rd8
22.Rf1 Rc8 23.Be7 Qxg4 24.Qxg4
fxg4 25.Rxf8# 1-0

Suggestions and improvements are welcome! I bet I missed some juicy tactics...

Aug-13-06  Leviathan: <Ludamad> Here are some insights on this interesting variation of the diemer gambit by yours truly, a diemer gambit lover :)

<1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3 f5!?> An uncommon reply. The second player secures his material advantage, causing a deterioration of his pawn structure. <4.f3!> That's the spirit! :) <4. .. exf3 Nxf3> A typical move to reach a somewhat solid attacking position completely worth one pawn (Shredder 10 eval: +0.94).

<I would have doubtless played Qxf3!? with a trickier position, ex:<5. Qxf3 Qxd4 6. Be3 Qb4? 7. O-O-O Nf6 8. a3> with a better position (Shredder 10 gives it an impressive +1.36 score).>

<5. .. g6?> Very awkward-looking.

<More rational possibilities were Nf6 or e6. <5... Nf6 6. Bc4 Nc6 7. Bg5 e6 8. O-O Be7 9. Qd2 Na5 10. Bd3> with white increasing the pressure on the weakness in e6 - probably leading to a draw>

<6. Bc4!> Logical and strong. White puts under control the weakness created by black's last manover. <6. .. Nf6 7.Ne5!?> This wasn't objectively the best move, although it created an immediate threat.

<Leading to a triumphal victory was <7. Qe2!> establishing agamonic domination upon the e-file, at the bottom of which still stands the black majesty. The second player cannot stop white's onslaught <7. .. Nc6 8. Bg5 Bg7 9. O-O-O Na5 10. Rhe1!>

<Now if <10. .. Ne4 11.Nxe4 fxe4 12. Qxe4!> Typical Diemer gambit-style tactics. Now Shredder 10 gives it a striking +5.00 - For instance if <12. .. Nxc4 13. Bxe7!> wins immediately or if <12.Bf5 13.Qe2! Nxc4 14.Qxc4> with a mighty winning position.>

<Else, if <10. .. h6 11. Bxf6 Bxf6 12. Ne5> White takes back his gambit pawn next move, with a much superior position that Shredder 10 evaluates as +2.18.> >

<7. .. Rg8??> Hallucination, fingerslip or mere suicide?

<The only move was indeed <7... e6> followed by <8. O-O Nbd7 9. Nxd7 Bxd7 10. Qf3 c6 11. Bg5 Be7 12. Rfe1 O-O 13. Rad1 Ng4 14. Bf4 Bh4 15. g3 Bg5> where white still has a certain edge but black appears to have counterplay. >

And there comes the mate in one, which deserves little more analisys :) <8.Bf7#>

Dec-24-06  jared10001: I have a question about obscure openings...

I always play 1.d4, but I don't like to swallow a huge amount of Indian theory, so I always play the Trompowsky attack. I don't want to play the Queen's Gambit against 1.d4 d5, so what should I do?

Should I play the London system? 1.d4 d5 2.Bf4

Should I play the Queen's Bishop Attack? 1.d4 d5 2.Bg5

Should I play the Colle system? 1.d4 d5 2.e3

I like playing somewhat obscure systems, but not SO obscure that there isn't a book written about it somewhere. Of these (or another I've forgotten to mention) which is the best for a 1500-1600 level player?

Dec-24-06  Eyal: <jared10001> The Colle system is quite a good idea. See, for example, Game Collection: Colle System Classics (Koltanowski variation), http://www.njscf.org/openings/colle... and http://www.eudesign.com/chessops/co...
and for books: http://www.wholesalechess.com/chess..., http://www.jeremysilman.com/book_re..., http://www.classicalgames.com/Merch...
Dec-31-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  Ron: Decided to see which of the top players like to play d4.

Of the top players, Kramnik, Mamedyarov, and Aronian seem to prefer d4. Topalav, Ivancuk, and Morozevich play either d4 or e4.

Long live D4!

Jan-14-07  southpawjinx: Here is one of my games on chessworld.net. If I could have played this better please let me know. I did win with the black pieces though!!

[Event "www.ChessWorld.net server game"]
[Site "www.ChessWorld.net "]
[Date "2007.1.9"]
[Round "NA"]
[White "Ironpig"]
[Black "darthplutonius"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Termination "White king mated"]
[WhiteElo "1562"]
[BlackElo "1400"]
[Mode "ICS"]
[DateLastMove "2007.1.10"]
[Board "3257575"]

1.d4 d5 2.a3 Nc6 3.c4 e5 4.dxe5 dxc4 5.Nf3 Qxd1+ 6.Kxd1 Bg4 7.h3 Bxf3 8.exf3 Nxe5 9.Nc3 Nd3 10.Bxd3 cxd3 11.Re1+ Be7 12.Ne4 O-O-O 13.b4 f5 14.Nc5 Bf6 15.Ra2 Ne7 16.Rd2 Nc6 17.Rxd3 Ne5 18.Rxd8+ Rxd8+ 19.Bd2 Nd3 20.Nxd3 Rxd3 21.Re3 Rd8 22.Ke1 Bd4 23.Re2 h6 24.Be3 Bc3+ 25.Kf1 Rd1+ 26.Re1 Rxe1+ White king mated 0-1

Jan-14-07  who: You certainly played well and punished him for a poor opening choice. Some comments:

I am not sure why you played 2...Nc6 and 3...e5. If you want to play an Albin then 4...d4 was in order. However, I should point out that since a3 is a good move when white plays against the Albin there should be more aggressive ways to punish his early a3. For instance, in the Slav a4 is often necessary and so the move a3 would turn out to be a real waste.

Obviously he should have played 5.Qxd8+ before playing Nf3.

9.0-0-0+ developing would have held your initiative better. As is after 12.Nd5 you would have been left you with difficulty castling.

17...b6 and would have won you a piece. As is he had a reasonable position till 19.Bd2?? which loses a piece to 19...Nc4. 24.Re7 is equal according to Fritz.

Jan-17-07  southpawjinx: <who> Thanks for your input. I also submitted to cg in other pages a Phildor's, and a Scotch game.
Feb-20-07  DMBFan23: Opening of the day: the blackmar diemer gambit!!

I am roughly a 1400 rated player, and I transpose into this against people that use the scandinavian defense (I'm a 1. e4 player). I find that almost no one knows how to deal with it, and I don't even mind the positions that result from its being declined (I hate the main line scandinavian lines so anything beats that)

Jul-17-07  whiteshark: <DeepBlade: <I bet I missed some juicy tactics... <Maybe after 21. Rg4 <h6!!> >>>


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Jul-17-07  MaxxLange: <DNBFan23> I used to do that! It worked so well against the kind of person who was rated under 1600 and taking up the Scandinavian in my area at the time. They were usually somewhat dull and timid players, trying to get an easy game where they didn't have to make any tough decisions.
Feb-16-08  valuim97: Look my best game with the Blackmar: Sao Paulo State U12 Championship 2008.1.e4 d5 2.d4!?(I prepared that for 1 year!)2...ed4 3.♘c3 ♘f6 4.f3 ♗f5(The Vienna Variation)5.♗g5(I think that this move is more agressive. I dont like 5.fe4)5...♘d5? (better is 5...ef3 or 5...e6!? planning 7...c5)6.♗c4 ♘c3 7.bc3 h6 8.♗f4 e6 9.fe4 ♗e4 10.♘f3 ♗d5 11.♗d3 c5(Trying to strike white's center, but it dont work)12.0-0 ♘c6 (12...♗f3 13.♖f3 cd4 14.cd4 ♕d4?? 15.♗b5 )13.♗e3 ♗f3?!(why?!)14.♕f3 f6? 15.Tae1(Planning ♖e6 and tactics)15...♕c7?! 16.♕h5 ♔e7?!!(better was ♔d8) 17.♗f4 ♕a5 18.♖e6!! ♔e6 19.d5! ♔d7 20.♗f5 ♔d8 21.dc6! (Opening the d-file, black's king is dead meat) Black Resigns 1-0 The best game of the championship! But I dont won THE championship. In the last round my opponent forced me to go on defensive...Result: Loss! I've got the second place :-(
Feb-16-08  valuim97: Improvements and comments are welcome
Feb-17-08  MaxxLange: <5...Nd5 6.Bc4 Nc3 7.bc3>

This was pointless on Black's part, and you look a little more solid after it.

<13...Bxf3? 14. Qf3 f6?> And Black is busted. Too many mistakes!

Nice game, you finished him off well from there on. The only improvement I thought of is that 19. Re1+ at once is stronger than 19. d5. and Shredder says it is indeed a forced mate.

Feb-17-08  MaxxLange: Your way is good enough though (+7 instead of mate in 9)

Feb-18-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Open Defence: nice game <valuim97>
Feb-18-08  whiteshark: <nice game <valuim97>> I agree.

- What did you exspect on <13...> ? Maybe <13...c4 14.Be2 Bd6> was an worthy alternative ?

- Did you calculate some other 15th moves for white ?

Feb-19-08  valuim97: I have an good game after 15.♖f2, planning 16.♕f2. But, obviously, in this line black still have some problems, and white can build an attack without trouble.
Oct-14-08  valuim97: Ooops! 5.♗g5?! can lead to: 5...e3! 6.♗e3, which isn't agradable for White, since is a BDG Declined w/4...e3!? with a extra tempo for Black!
May-10-09  blacksburg: wow. Blackmar-Diemer has a pretty impressive win percentage after 2...dxe4.
May-29-09  Fanacas: maxx lange i now a scandinavoin player who does just the opeside he doenst want dull games but complicatet :P he like it when people play the blackmar diemer against him. (he also plays the scots. englund defence agianst f4 all that kind of openings)
May-29-09  Fanacas: This is also a inresting Queens pawn game opening played by zukertort.

1.d4 - d5
2.Kf3 - Kf6
3.e3 - e6
4.Bd3 - c5
5.b3 - Kc6
6.0-0 - Bd6
7Bb2 - 0-0 Then white can use a plan of Kf3-e5 and then f2-f4 or c2-c4

with c2-c4 most of the time after
8.c4 - cxd4
9.exd4 dxc4
10bxc4 whit gets 2 hanging powns at c4 and d5 (but can be wel gaurded) black most of the times ausult the pawns but white can do a king stie attack then.

May-29-09  Fanacas: ow sorry k should be n(so k is the knight my mistake )
Jul-17-10  LDJ: I always play 1.e4 as White and I have a repertoire for White which I'm comfortable with. I like the positions that arise from the Scotch, Giuoco Piano (with 5.d4) and open Sicilians. As black I play either the Petroff or the Sicilian against 1.e4. But guess what... I don't know what to do against 1.d4. I don't want to play some dubious gambit, but I'd like an opening or system that is considered sound and that leads to positions I like. Can anyone give me some advice? Thanks in advance.
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