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| Sep-07-03 | | Sylvester: Is 1.Nf3 c5 2.c4 Nf6 3.Nc3 e6 4.d4 Nc6 the Reti Opening? I know it is just supposed to be 1.Nf3. But can't later moves transform it into something else? |
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| Sep-07-03 | | Jonber: 1.Nf3 c5 2.c4 Nf6 3.Nc3 e6 4.d4 Nc6 is symmetrical English by transposition. Many chess openings start out as one thing and then changes into a different opening. This is called transposition. |
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| Sep-07-03 | | Benjamin Lau: The Reti is no longer used very frequently as an opening in its own right anymore. More frequently, GMs at the top level use it to confuse their opponents or to trick them into entering an inferior opening. When the Reti is played as an opening on its own, it's called the Reti System, characterized by piece influence of the center, a minimal pawn center during the opening, and a fianchetto or two. When the Reti is played for the sake of transposition, it is usually called the Reti Opening.
See the games of Ulf Andersson, Kramnik, Ivkov, and Vaganian for some really good Reti System games. |
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| Sep-07-03 | | Sylvester: Thanks Jonber and Benjamin. I am going to call it English Opening. I don't usually mention variations. |
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| Sep-07-03 | | Sylvester: Wait a minute Benjamin. Would you call my opening the Reti Opening or the the English Opening? |
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| Sep-07-03 | | JOUEUR: You want to know all about Nf3 Reti Opening. A masterpiece. Opening for White According to Kramnik
by Khalifman.it's 40 or 45$ each book.
In 5 books, it's very expensive, but... |
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| Sep-07-03 | | Benjamin Lau: Sylvester, I agree with Jonber. It's symmetrical English. |
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| Sep-07-03 | | Sylvester: Thanks again <Benjamin>. <JOUEUR>Someone played it against me on GameKnot and I just want to put the right opening in my scorebook. I always open 1.e4. |
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| Feb-13-04 | | marcus13: Usualy whihit this move the game transpose in d4 or c4 game, not very often it is a pure reti game. |
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| Apr-06-04 | | Vischer: I don't play this as white, even for transposition. If your going to play d4, play d4! if your going to play c4, play c4! Not all variations have the knight out, and also this is like letting your oponent choose if it goes into a d4 or c4 game. I personally think if you play 1.Nf3 it should be for Reti system or KIA, like 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 or 1...Nf6 2.g3, not transposition. I think the 1.Nf3 transposition leads to things worse than what you are avoiding. |
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| Apr-06-04 | | Benjamin Lau: The Reti is usually used just to avoid annoying openings like the Slav Winawer Countergambit, the Albain Countergambit, the Enlund Gambit, etc. You can also use it to avoid more conventional openings like the Nimzo Indian or other systems in which white plays Nc3 first. |
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| Apr-06-04 | | Vischer: I think the 1.Nf3 transposition leads to things worse than what you are avoiding. |
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| Apr-06-04 | | Benjamin Lau: While I don't play the Reti frequently, I have no doubt it is a good opening. Many complain that it locks the f pawn in and so white cannot utilize the KID Samisch and the Taimanov Benoni, but I think it's somewhat irrelevant. Most people at the higher levels claim that the KID Bayonet Attack is much better than the Samisch (and it doesn't utilize the f pawn). The Taimanov Benoni isn't what it's cracked up to be either, the ...Nbd7 line looks suspiciously good for black. I think it's all a matter of style. For what it's worth, Kramnik plays the Reti and 1. d4. |
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| Apr-06-04 | | Vischer: What does kramnik have to do with anything? he's a sissy! |
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| Apr-06-04 | | Benjamin Lau: Perhaps, but he is a sissy rated over 2700+ who has been spearing KID's for years. |
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| Apr-06-04 | | Vischer: That still doesn't change the fact that he's a sissy. I saw one game where he gave perpetual check when he had an advantage! |
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| Apr-06-04 | | acirce: I'm pretty sure almost every player has done that in at least "one game". |
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| Apr-07-04 | | GoodKnight: <Vischer>
Couple more for your collection :-)
Quack
E Belcher
R C Lemon (see kibitz as well)
Odd Lie
Vaclav Brat |
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| Apr-07-04 | | GoodKnight: ... And Prat |
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| Apr-07-04 | | Vischer: thx goodknight |
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| Apr-07-04 | | notyetagm: Kramnik used to be really aggressive. In his formative years he played the Leningrad Dutch! Now, he will play the Sveshnikov Sicilian on occasion but he seems too inclined to take a draw unless his opponent plays so poorly that Kramnik just has to win (see his only two wins at Linares 2004 over Topalov and Leko). |
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| Nov-02-04 | | tacticsjokerxxx: The opening of the day... the Lisitin gambit, shows us a nice trap in this game Haberditz vs Hysek, 1938 |
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| Nov-02-04 | | aw1988: Yeah we have to comment on the Reti page :P |
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| Dec-07-04 | | tintin: What does everyone play after 1.Nf3 Nc6 ?
I am fine after ..1.d5 and ..1.Nf6 but don't want to play a king's pawn opening or the queen's gambit after ..1.Nc6. |
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| Dec-07-04 | | AgentRgent: <tintin> I play 2. c4 With the blacks c pawn blocked, many of Blacks best lines against the Reti are unavailable. |
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