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| Jun-21-06 | | KingG: <DeepBlade> The main line is actually 4.Nc3, but 4.Qe2!? is interesting, as in R Metzger vs Happe, 1990. |
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| Jun-21-06 | | DeepBlade: <RookFile> Indeed, Spassky was a stubborn KG warrior. In his games you can see the KG approach on Grandmaster level. Its cool, but thats a bit too much for me to chew on. Long live the KG on club level! A little observation, 1800 rated players often play the KG in all its theoretical correctness, but tend to get locked after the memorised openinglines. They accept characteristic KG sacs, without knowing the true intent of it. Also, playing vs a computer at 3-4 ply is a good thing if you want to learn the KG. Let a top engine play against a 4-5 ply engine, observe and recognise. The top level KG steers towards the endgame, and I dont like them, so I play attacking. I would rather play a doubious/trappish/tal move instead of exchanging my way into boringness. |
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| Jun-21-06 | | Jilted Rook: <DeepBlade> <fxe4? Looks unproffesional to me> It actually loses to Qh4+! |
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| Jun-22-06 | | harcee sarmiento: i guess mr schiller is suggesting the falkbeer more sound in facing the gambit. please correct me if im wrong. |
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| Jun-22-06 | | harcee sarmiento: Actually, i rarely play the KG but im an avid user of the 3.Bc4 than the 3.Nf3 of it because FOR ME, it is flexible and give me more presence in the center. |
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| Jun-22-06 | | KingG: <harcee sarmiento> No, <Eric Schiller> is suggesting the Modern(or Abbazia) defence, but using the Falkbeer move order. Presumably this is so that the defence can be played against both the 3.Nf3 and 3.Bc4 variations. The line he suggests playing is 1.e4 e5 2.f4 d5 3.exd5 exf5!(instead of 3...e4!? which is the Falkbeer). |
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| Jun-22-06 | | RookFile: Well, 1. e4 e5 2. f4 Bc5 was a choice of Rubinstein. In my own games, I've won the 4 or 5 games I've played with it. It's a really simple system, whether white goes for c3 and d4, or the Nc3 and Na4 idea. |
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| Jun-22-06 | | KingG: <RookFile> If White plays Nc3, do you try and save the bishop with a6, or do you allow it to be captured? |
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| Jun-22-06 | | RookFile: Yeah, I usually go Nc3 Bb6 allowing Nxb6.... although i've seen ....a6
and also ....Nbd7 allowing the capture. |
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| Jun-22-06 | | KingG: Any reason you don't play the Fischer defence? :-) |
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Jun-22-06
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| Jun-22-06 | | RookFile: KingG: Fischer's defense seems very complex, and I don't see the king's gambit often. I play this 1. e4 e5 2. f4 Bc5 and win. Until somebody comes along and shows me any reason why black shouldn't be happy with his development lead, I'm ok with this. |
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| Jun-22-06 | | harcee sarmiento: <eric schiller & KingG> ah.. thank you. how about this. 1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4.h4?... thus one of the main line? I've tried many times my own alterntive of 4.h3?! eventually i won my times. wht do you think about this move?? |
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| Jun-22-06 | | refutor: 4.h3 doesn't do anything |
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Jun-23-06
 | | IMlday: " I would rather play a doubious/trappish/tal move instead of exchanging my way into boringness." But that is the whole magic of the KG's, that the endgames favour white. |
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| Jun-23-06 | | KingG: <harcee sarmiento> The point of 4.h4 is to put pressure on the Black pawn chain, to make it more difficult for him to hold on to the extra pawn and keep the f-file closed. 4.h3 doesn't do that, so it's pretty useless. |
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| Jun-23-06 | | mack: <But that is the whole magic of the KG's, that the endgames favour white.> Hear, hear! |
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| Jun-23-06 | | harcee sarmiento: ah ok. thanks guys. |
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| Jun-23-06 | | DeepBlade: <IMlday> Quite a bold statement, but I like it! Ive seen people talk bad about the KG, talkin like ''If black gets to defend well the extra pawn wins the endgame'', but frankly White gets the upper hand in the endgame. My statement was just expressing my style, I suck at the endgame and I find it boring. Middlegame is my canvas, my hand is the brush, my ideas are my paint, and chess is my artwork! |
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| Jun-28-06 | | DeepBlade: The 1.e4 e5 2.f4 d5 3.exd5
exf4 moveorder
[White "DeepBlade"]
[Black "NN"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Event "InstantChess"]
1.e4 e5 2.f4 d5 3.exd5
exf4 4.Nf3 Bd6 5.Nc3 Nf6
6.Bb5+ c6 7.dxc6 bxc6 8.Bc4 O-O
9.O-O Bc5+ 10.Kh1 Nd5 11.Ne4
Bb6 12.d4 Bc7 13.Bb3 Ne3
14.Bxe3 fxe3 15.Qd3 Re8 16.Bxf7+
Kxf7 17.Nfg5+ Kg8 18.Nxh7
Kxh7 19.Nf6+ Kh8 20.Qh7# 1-0 |
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| Jun-28-06 | | KingG: <DeepBlade> Nice game, but your opponent played horribly, even by NN standards :-). Also, the final sacrifice was incorrect, after 18...Qh4!(threatening mate in 1), i don't see how White can avoid losing. Instead, the immediate 18.Nf6+! was winning. |
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| Jun-28-06 | | DeepBlade: <KingG> Indeed the first one was correct, but I thought ''What the heck, for the fun of it''... |
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| Jun-29-06 | | DeepBlade: [White "DeepBlade"]
[Black "NN"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Event "InstantChess"]
1.e4 d6 2.f4 Nf6 3.Nc3
g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Bc4 Nbd7
6.O-O O-O 7.d3 c6 8.Be3 Ng4
9.Qe2 e5 10.Bd2 exf4 <now it looks like a KG> 11.Bxf4 Nge5 12.Bb3 Nc5 13.d4 Nxb3
14.axb3 Nxf3+ 15.Qxf3 Bxd4+
16.Kh1 Be6 17.Bh6 Re8 18.Ne2
Bxb2 19.Nf4 Qf6 20.Rae1 Bc3
21.Rd1 Rad8 22.Qg3 Bc8 23.Nh5
Qe7 24.Qxc3 1-0 |
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| Jun-29-06 | | DeepBlade: A Sicilian Approach, A good conception due the d4 control. [White "DeepBlade"]
[Black "NN"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Event "InstantChess"]
1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Nf3
c5 4.Bc4 Nc6 5.O-O Nf6 6.d3
h6 7.Bxf4 d6 8.Nc3 a6 9.Qd2
Bg4 10.Rae1 g5 11.Bg3 h5
12.h3 Bd7 13.Nxg5 Nh7 14.Bxf7+
Ke7 15.Nd5# 1-0 |
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| Jun-29-06 | | AgentRgent: DeepBlade: A Sicilian Approach, A good conception due the d4 control. 1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4> No offense, but why is this in the KG Declined? |
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