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| Dec-13-11 | | whiteshark: Picture of the Latvian 1939 Olympiad team, MELNGAILIS is on the left side: http://www.ara.org.ar/chs/ajedrez/p... |
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| Dec-13-11 | | whiteshark: He also played during the 1936 Olympiad:
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Jul-01-12
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Sep-17-18
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| Sep-18-18 | | hemy: Memoir of Mikhail Beilin about the Latvian period of his life, from http://ruchess.ru/persons_of_day/be... "... I came to Riga, being a candidate master (CM), - the title for the present time is not says to much, but at that time CM title had only two players in Latvia - Vilis Mezhgailis and Tenis Melngailis. The only master was Alex Koblenc. ... the names of my colleges translation to Russian: Mezhgailis - a forest cock, and Melngailis - a black cock. Senior Lieutenant Mezhgailis had with the cock nothing in common. It was a restrained tall strong man, silent and affable. He fought in the ranks of the Latvian division and hated the fascists. And he played in a solid positional style. Melngailis was temperamental, he liked to talk, he willingly talked in Russian, although he did not speak very fluently. The German occupation survived in Latvia, but did not spread its political views. At the board these candidates were often met, although they did not feel sympathy for each other." |
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| Sep-22-18 | | chesshistoryinterest: <jessicafischerqueen> Re the two following posts from the Vladimir Petrov page: <Sep-21-18 chesshistoryinterest: Further evidence that the Melngailis that competed at Kemeri-Riga 1939 was Tenis: The top 3 in each group in the 1938/9 Latvian Championship Congress qualified for the Final at Kemeri-Riga, as we saw earlier. And the Melngailis that got second in Group 2 was Tenis ("Stasti un Romani", Page 12).
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-...
Re Tenis Melngailis biography, I found the following events he played in up to 1945, in addition to those listed: Riga Ch. 1934.
Latvia-Lithuania matches 1934 & 1935 & 1936.
Riga Ch. 1936.
Training tournament, Riga, 1937.
Latvia-Estonia matches 1938 & 1939.
SELL student Olympiads 1938 & 1939.
Latvian Championship Congress, Riga 1938/9, Group 2. Olympiad Selection tournament, Liepaja, 1939.
Training tournament, Riga 1940.
Riga Ch. 1943.
Vainode, 1943.
I have not done a thorough look, so there may be one or two others, as well as internal Latvian/Riga team events. In general, any 'Melngailis' in an event from 1934 where there is only one seems to be Tenis. Emilis seems to be inactive, or nearly so, after about 1936. Sep-21-18
Premium Chessgames Member jessicafischerqueen:
<chesshistoryinterest> Thanks again! <Re Tenis Melngailis biography, I found the following events he played in up to 1945, in addition to those listed: Riga Ch. 1934. Latvia-Lithuania matches 1934 & 1935 & 1936.
Riga Ch. 1936.
Training tournament, Riga, 1937.
Latvia-Estonia matches 1938 & 1939.
SELL student Olympiads 1938 & 1939.
Latvian Championship Congress, Riga 1938/9, Group 2. Olympiad Selection tournament, Liepaja, 1939. Training tournament, Riga 1940.
Riga Ch. 1943.
Vainode, 1943.
I have not done a thorough look, so there may be one or two others, as well as internal Latvian/Riga team events.> This information is from <Di Felice>? I have the relevant <Di Felice> volumes, but if any of the items on your list are from other sources, I would need to know those sources (with page numbers) in order to add the events to Game Collection: Tenis Melngailis Life and Games . I just now read your post, so I have not had a chance to check yet. I believe the documentation for some of those events must already be listed in some of the entries in Game Collection: Vladimirs Petrovs Tournaments/Matches 1923-1942 ? I suggest that we should move discussion of <Tenis Melngailis> over to Tenis Melngailis ?> I went through Di Felice up to 1945 for both Tenis and Emilis [as Di Felice often has Emilis instead of Tenis] Melngailis to see what he had. Also <Hemy's> material. Plus I found a few of my own.
The documentation for some of these events will undoubtedly be in <Game Collection: Vladimirs Petrovs Tournaments/Matches 1923-1942>. I haven't checked whether the items I will give in my next post exactly match these, but what I have done is ensured the items I give identify Tenis as the Melngailis in them. I will give them in the next post. |
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Sep-22-18
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<chesshistoryinterest> Sounds good, thank you very much. Please remember to list source names, dates with page numbers in future posts, because without that documentation I can't add the new information to bios or games collections eh? |
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| Sep-22-18 | | chesshistoryinterest: <jessicafischerqueen> Will do. I have gone right through Di Felice, etc. to the end now. Let's see how we go:
Latvia-Lithuania match, 3-4 March, 1934, Kaunas:
"Centra Balss", 9 March 1934, Page 6.
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... Riga Championship 1934:
"Atputa", 8 June 1934, Page 29.
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... Latvia-Lithuania match, 17-18 March 1935, Riga:
"Krustamikla,Sahs,Bridzs", 23 March 1935, Page 11. http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... Riga Championship, 20 October 1935 - 23 February 1936:
"Sporta Pasaule", 2 March 1936, Page 6.
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... Latvia-Lithuania match, 28-29 March 1936, Kaunas:
"Krusta-mikla,Sahs,Bridzs", 11 April 1936, Page 12. http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... Will continue next post. |
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| Sep-22-18 | | chesshistoryinterest: [continuing]
Training tournament, Riga, 26 September - circa 15 December 1937:
"Saha Maksla", 25 December 1937, Page 11.
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... Latvia-Estonia match, Tallinn, 7-8 March 1938:
"Krusta-mikla,Sachs,Bridzs", 19 March 1938, Page 11. http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... (also drawn game Sepp-Melngailis from this match: "Saha Maksla", 25 March 1938, Page 9.) http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... 2nd SELL student Olympiad, Tartu, 25-27 March 1938:
"Rits", 19 March 1938, Page 4.
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... Latvian Championship Congress, Group 2, Riga, 24 December 1938 - 1 January 1939:
"Stasti un Romani", 7 January 1939, Page 12.
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... 3rd SELL student Olympiad, Helsinki, 19-21 February 1939:
"Stasti un Romani", 4 March 1939, Page 23.
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... Latvia-Estonia match, Riga, 24-26 February 1939:
"Stasti un Romani", 4 March 1939, Page 23.
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... Will continue next post. |
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| Sep-22-18 | | chesshistoryinterest: [continuing]
1939 Olympiad Selection tournament, Liepaja, 22 April - circa 1 June 1939:
"Stasti un Romani", 23 June 1939, Page 23.
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... Training tournament, Riga, 6 October-30 December 1940:
"Sarkanais Sports", 1 January 1941, Page 4.
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... Riga Championship, 28 February - circa 26 March 1943:
"Sporta Pasaule", 29 March 1943, Page 4. (Couldn't find a crosstable on Periodika.lv for this one. Possibly one on the European Library? [I'm not having much success when I try to search that site.]) http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... Vainode, 3-9 October 1943:
"Sporta Pasaule", 18 October 1943, Page 4.
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... Will continue next post. |
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| Sep-22-18 | | chesshistoryinterest: [continuing]
Riga Championship, January 1946:
"Fiziska Kultura", 1 February 1946 (cannot find crosstable on Periodika.lv. Nor do Rusbase have it; nor is it in Di Felice. Jeremy Gaige in "Chess Tournaments: A Checklist" indicated he had it, so it must exist somewhere!). http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... Riga Championship, 17 January-15 March 1947 (dates according to Gaige):
Rusbase under "National Tournaments" chapter.
[after 1946, Periodika.lv will let you do a search, but won't allow you access to the newspaper item itself. Why is this?]
(The Rusbase item only lists some of the competitors [including T. Melngailis] and their scores, but doesn't have a crosstable. Nor does Di Felice. Jeremy Gaige in "Chess Tournaments: A Checklist" indicated he had it, so it must exist somewhere!) http://al20102007.narod.ru/nat_tour... Latvian Championship, Riga, 27 March-30 April 1947:
Rusbase under "Championships of Republics" chapter. http://al20102007.narod.ru/ch_repub... Quarterfinal of USSR Championship, Yaroslavl, 1948:
Rusbase under "Championships of USSR" chapter.
http://al20102007.narod.ru/ch_urs/1... Will continue next post. |
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| Sep-22-18 | | chesshistoryinterest: [continuing]
That's all I found for now. Would probably pay to check that I've got everything correct. The above documentation, plus what you have already found, would indicate that Di Felice wrongly has "Emilis Melngailis" instead of "Tenis Melngailis" for the following events in his "Chess Results": Olympiad 1936.
Latvia-Estonia 1938.
Latvia-Estonia 1939.
Kemeri-Riga 1939.
Olympiad 1939.
Latvian Championship, Riga, 1947.
Latvian Championship, Riga 1948.
Quarterfinal of USSR Championship, Yaroslavl, 1948. To finish up, I found a crosstable for Kemeri-Riga 1939 that has "T. Melngailis" in it. So that should confirm that one absolutely. http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... |
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| Sep-23-18 | | chesshistoryinterest: Latvia-Lithuania match, 17-18 March 1935, Riga:
I accidentally posted a different table from what I meant to post.
The one that identifies Tenis Malngailis is:
"Rigasche Rundschau", 19 March 1935, Page 6.
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... |
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| Sep-25-18 | | hemy: <Riga 1935-1936 (20 October 1935-23 February 1936)
Riga Championship. <Petrovs finished 1st> over F. Apsenieks,
M. Feigins, T. Bergs and others.>
1. V. Petrov 14/17
2. F. Apšenieks — 12.5/17
3. M. Feigins 12/17
9-10. T. Melngailis and K. Ozols 9/17
[Event "Riga championship"]
[Site "Riga"]
[Date "1935.12.01"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Stabiņš, A"]
[Black "Melngailis, Tenis"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E34"]
[PlyCount "48"]
[Source "'Krustamīkla. Šahs. Bridžs', January 11, 1936, p. 12; 'Aizsargs', January 15, 1936, p. 78"] 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 d5 5. e3 c5 6. a3 Qa5 7. Bd2 cxd4 8. exd4
Nc6 9. Nf3 O-O 10. Rc1 Bxc3 11. Bxc3 Qd8 12. Bd3 dxc4 13. Bxc4 b6 14. Bb5 Bb7
15. Qa4 Qd5 16. O-O a6 17. Be2 b5 18. Qc2 Rac8 19. Qd2 Ne4 20. Qf4 f5 21. Rfd1
g5 22. Nxg5 Nxc3 23. Bf3 Ne2+ 24. Bxe2 Nxd4 0-1
http://periodika.lv/periodika2-view... http://periodika.lv/periodika2-view... |
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| Sep-26-18 | | hemy: <Riga 1935-1936 (20 October 1935-23 February 1936) Riga Championship.> One more game of T. Melngailis from this tournament, against Fricis Apšenieks. It was published in "Krustamīkla. Šahs. Bridžs" magazine, December 7 , 1935, p. 12 as a game played in round 4 of Riga chess championship. However the game was played in round 5 on October 7th, 1935 ("Rīts", November 8, 1935, p. 7). In round 4 T. Melngailis played against K. Ozols and Apšenieks against M. Brakmanis ("Rīts", November 4, 1935, p. 4). In winning position T. Melngailis made big mistake on his last move and the game ended with a draw. [Event "Riga championship"]
[Site "Riga"]
[Date "1935.11.07"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Melngailis, Tenis"]
[Black "Apsenieks, Fr."]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E01"]
[PlyCount "71"]
[Source "'Krustamīkla. Šahs. Bridžs', December 7 , 1935, p. 12"] 1. c4 e6 2. Nf3 d5 3. b3 Nf6 4. Bb2
Nbd7 5. g3 Bd6 6. Bg2 c6 7. O-O O-O 8. d4 Qe7 9. Ne5 Rd8 10. Nxd7 Bxd7 11. Nd2
c5 12. cxd5 exd5 13. Rc1 Bg4 14. Re1 Rac8 15. Nf3 c4 16. Ne5 Be6 17. bxc4 dxc4
18. Qa4 Bb4 19. Red1 c3 20. Ba1 c2 21. Rd3 Bf5 22. e4 Nxe4 23. g4 b5 24. Qxb5
Ba3 25. Bb2 Nc3 26. Rxc3 Rxc3 27. gxf5 Rxd4 28. Bf3 h6 29. f6 Qxf6 30. Rxc2
Bxb2 31. Qxb2 Rxc2 32. Qxd4 Rxa2 33. Bd5 Qg5+ 34. Kf1 Rd2 35. Bxf7+ Kh8 36.
Qxd2 1/2-1/2
http://periodika.lv/periodika2-view... |
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Sep-28-18
| | jessicafischerqueen:
From <hemy>:
<Riga 1935-1936 (20 October 1935-23 February 1936) Riga Championship. <Petrovs finished 1st> over F. Apsenieks, M. Feigins, T. Bergs and others.
Di Felice, "Chess Results 1936-1940" p.8;
'Krustamīkla. Šahs. Bridžs', November 23, 1935, p.12; "Rīts", November 19, 1935, p.7. Both Emils Melngailis and Tenis Melngailis participated in this event.> Vladimir Petrov (kibitz #771) |
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Sep-28-18
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<chesshistoryinterest> Awesome research thank you so much! On the periodika web links, my ability to "read" those pages is zero. I can't even decipher many of the letters and numbers, let alone the words. Could be a problem with my brain/eyes. Hopefully a Latvian speaker can post the cited information from those linked pages in English? |
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Sep-28-18
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<chesshistoryinterest> This is interesting: <Quarterfinal of USSR Championship, Yaroslavl, 1948: Rusbase under "Championships of USSR" chapter. http://al20102007.narod.ru/ch_urs/1... > On the actual crosstable page it is named <Tournament of candidates to masters- Yaroslavl 1948>. I wonder what that means, exactly? Could it mean that all of the participants were Candidate Masters, or either Candidate Masters or Masters? If so, that would mean that T. Melngailis had a Soviet Candidate Master title at the time of this event. |
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| Sep-28-18 | | hemy: <JFQ>
<Tournament of candidates to masters> means that all of the participants were Candidate Masters.The master title was possible to get only in tournaments where at least 3 masters participated. For the best Candidate Masters the Soviet chess federation could arrange match with master.
To get master title CM had to win a match against master or to made a draw in 2 such a matches. In 1967, when in I played in USSR team championship ("Spartakiad") in Moscow I was approached by Chess federation officials and offered to played in match-tournament of 7 young (20 years old) Candidates Masters against 7 Masters in my home town Vilnius.
Because of my exams in University in Kaunas city I couldn't accept this offer. In this tournament each CM played with each Master 2 games. To get master title CM had to make 7.5/14 or more. I remember that in this tournament Evgeny Sveshnikov was crushing masters and finished with 12/14. Seiran Chechelian from Armenia came with his father and Genrikh Kasparyan, one of the greatest composers of chess endgame studies. Kasparian was helping him with analysis of adjourned games. I was told by Isakas Vistaneckis that Chechelian's father was helping his son with generous offers to masters. My goal was to finish University and emigrate to Israel, so I didn'y played in tournaments. I received the master title later, in Israel. |
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Sep-28-18
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<hemy> Thank you, and especially for more anecdotes from your chess career! From your earlier translation, we know that <T. Melngailis> indeed held the Candidate Master title at this time: <Riga 1946> (5 May-30 June) Latvian Soviet Republic Team Candidates Tournament. http://al20102007.narod.ru/nat_tour... <Melngailis shared 1st with J. Vatnikov, scoring +9-4=2.> Melngailis was awarded the Candidate Master title after this event. [https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenis... ] |
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Sep-29-18
 | | mifralu: He also played in a Training tournament (Riga 1936) for the Munich Olympiad. http://periodika.lv/periodika2-view... The candidates were divided into two groups,
A and B, each playing a tournament. In the A group
Mezgailis won with 3.5 points; 2. < Indriķis Kalnins > 2,5 Arvids Kalnins (kibitz #1)
3rd 4th Brakmanis and < T. Melngailis each 1.5; > 5th Ozols 1. In the B-group won:
1.-2. Dreibergs and Friede each 5
3-5. Giese, A. Kalnins and Taube each 4 points.
Based on these results Mezgailis and < Indriķis Kalnins > are added to the team ... The three last of the A group with the
three first of the B group playing off a new tournament... New tournament, 8 players:
From Group A: Brakmanis, < T. Melngailis >, Ozols From Group B: Dreibergs, Friede, Giese,
and Endzelins - Riga and Elson - Walka
were allowed. The result of this fight:
1. Ozols 5; 2nd < T. Melngailis 4,5 >; 3. L. Endzelins 4 points. By decision of the Latvian Chess Federation
the Latvian representation Team for Munich: Petrov, Apscheneek.,
<Edgars Roberts Krūmiņš> Alfred J Krumins (kibitz #2) Feigins,
Hasenfuss, Mezgailis, <Indriķis Kalnins>, Ozols, <T. Melngailis >and Endzelins.
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Please also have a look at Arvids Kalnins (kibitz #1) and Alfred J Krumins (kibitz #2). Hope I got it right. :) |
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| Sep-29-18 | | chesshistoryinterest: <Hemy>, thanks for answering <jessicafischerqueen's> question about <Tournament of candidates to masters>. I didn't have much idea.
Just wondering why the term "masters" is mentioned if that Title wasn't on offer in this event. Or is "Tournament of candidates to masters" a mistranslation, and should read "Tournament of candidate masters"? I certainly second <jessicafischerqueen's> comment that anecdotes from your chess career are very welcome, as is any information on how the USSR chess system worked. <Jessicafischerqueen>, I too, wondered why the crosstable had a different heading than the expected <Quarterfinal of USSR Championship> (and it's the same for all the 1948 events listed <"Quarterfinal of USSR Championship" in the Rusbase index). I'm presuming the tournament was both.
Gaige in "Checklist" calls it "Master Candidates", while Di Felice calls it "Quarterfinal 17th USSR ch" [that's the 1949 USSR ch, not the 1948 one]. Di Felice's source is "Shakhmaty v SSSR 1948, p. 262". And, indeed, the winner, Cherepkov, is in the USSR Semifinal at Tbilisi, 25 April - May 1949, while the second placegetter, Solmanis, was in the USSR Semifinal at Moscow, 25 May - 22 June 1949. So it certainly looks like it was a USSR Ch. Quarterfinal as well. I think Rusbase is an awesome website. Has a tremendous amount of information that would otherwise be very hard to get. Olimpbase is another hugely helpful website. These guys deserve a huge amount of gratitude from the chess world. |
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| Sep-29-18 | | chesshistoryinterest: <mifralu>
Funnily enough, I've been looking at this very stuff the last couple of nights trying to sort it out. :)I think you've got the Kalnins and Krumins stuff right. This item ("Rits", 10 August 1936, page 4): http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... shows what I think are the correct names, and are what you give.
I also agree that it was Edgars Krumins (not Alfreds) who played in the 1935 Warsaw Olympiad. Funny how I've just praised Olimpbase and here we are discussing errors in it. In my experience, such errors on this very excellent website are extremely rare indeed. Di Felice's version also has errors. He correctly has Edgars Krumins; but wrongly has Arvids Kalnins instead of Indrikis; and wrongly has Emilis Melngailis instead of Tenis. Re the tournaments in preparation for the 1936 Munich Olympiad:
My assessment would be that these are Qualification tournaments, not a Training tournament. The actual Training tournament was held shortly afterwards, 27 July - 3 August 1936, Riga, where Edgars Krumins, Feigins, and Paul List from Berlin tied for first. Paul Schmidt from Estonia was 4th, half a point behind. I think you've deceiphered these probably Qualification tournaments very well. Slight corrections I have are:
"Giese" would be the player Gize.
"Elson" is Eklons from Valga [Walka is the German name for Valga]. He was the "Pride of the North" [he drew a match with Mikenas 2.5 - 2.5 in Valga, 16-18 November 1930].
In Group B, I get Gize, A. Kalnins and Taube getting 4.5 points, not 4.
Gize got into the final tournament because Taube declined to take part in the playoff; Gize then won a game from A. Kalnins after which A. Kalnins declined to play further.
The "A. Kalnins" is Arnold Kalnins as opposed to Arvids, this established by "Rits", 10 July 1936, Page 4. |
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Sep-30-18
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< Slight corrections I have are: "Giese" would be the player Gize.> Ernests Gize, son of August Giese
https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernes...
Augusts Gize < "Elson" is Eklons from Valga > Two different players, see
https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/1935.... Alfrēds Eklons
https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfr%... "Elson" might be < Nils Elisons >(3rd place in Latvian Championship 1935). |
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| Sep-30-18 | | chesshistoryinterest: <mifralu>
Gize/Giese: I think the version of this depends on the language of the article. Gize is Latvian, Giese is probably German. Eklons/Elisons: That Gothic is hard to read. I'm pretty sure the second letter is a 'k' (I've come across this before).
Anyway, here is another item on this event, in Latvian this time ("Jaunakas Zinas", 22 July 1936, Page 10): http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-... It clearly reads "Eklons" and "Gize".
Also, this player was given as from Valga. Eklons was the only significant player to come from there. I'm pretty sure Elisons was from Riga. [The Wikipedia article has the Eklons-Mikenas match as being in 1932. But contemporary newspaper articles on the match are in 1930. <Encyclopedia of Latvian Chessplayers> has the same error.] |
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