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| Sep-05-08 | | Calli: And who can forget endgame rules like
"Whenever a pawn altitude is intersected by the periphery of an adverse Knight's octagon, then, if the pawn has not crossed the point intersection, the adverse Knight wins the given pawn." |
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| Sep-05-08 | | Jim Bartle: You know, compared to about half the writing I see from conservation and rural aid groups here in Peru (in English or Spanish), that qualifies as sharp and easy to comprehend. |
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| Feb-13-09 | | whiteshark: Instead of repeating the well known Quote of the Day again, here is another one: "In order to select the decisive movement in a given situation
it is necessary first to determine both the object and
the objective, not merely of the required movement, but also
of that series of movements, which collectively constitute the
projected line of movement; together with the object and the
objective of every movement contained therein."
-- Franklin K. Young
I think he will become my favourite chess author... |
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| Apr-23-09 | | WhiteRook48: Franklin, do you Knowl how to be Young? |
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| Aug-14-09 | | whiteshark: QotD time comparison: <x+182> |
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Nov-07-09
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http://books.google.com/books?id=53... Jackson - Young (Anglo-American Cable Match, 1898)
1 P-K4 P-K3
<This inferior defence was adopted on account of the fast time limit.> 2. P-Q4 P-QKt3
3. B-Q3 B-N2
<Black considered 2...P-Q4 a lost game for the defence. In a game with Captain Mackenzie, Mr. Young won with this continuation.> You know, maybe the masters weren't ridiculing the right obliques after all. |
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| Nov-07-09 | | parisattack: <Phony Benoni: I used to have a copy of a game that Young thought up, complete with annotations, that was supposed to depict the Battle of Waterloo on the chessboard. Can't find it now, alas. It was, well, incredible.> I have seven volumes of the Boston Chess Club ledgers Young kept over several decades. Aside from many tournament logs, games, correspondence and such, there are quite a few such made-up war games - many with very intricate drawings and copious notes/rules. His books (seven in the series I believe) are to say the least...interesting. |
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Nov-08-09
| | Phony Benoni: <parisattack> Would you know if Young had any particular influence on Weaver Adams? Both from the Boston area, and Young lived until 1931. They both seem to have a slightly cracked, iconclastic genius. |
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| Nov-08-09 | | parisattack: <Phony Benoni: <parisattack> Would you know if Young had any particular influence on Weaver Adams? Both from the Boston area, and Young lived until 1931. They both seem to have a slightly cracked, iconclastic genius.> Interesting speculation, good comparison. I am sure you are familiar with Adam's White to Play and Win and Simple Chess? They are a bit far out but Young's series would seem to be in a class by themselves. I do not know of any such influence but other than the two books above I do not know much of Weaver Adams. I can tell you when I read the ledgers I mentioned I can easily imagine myself at the BCC circa 1890 or so - wouldn't that be fun! There are a few dozen of Young's games in the ledgers. Someday as/if I have the time I will copy and load them to CG. He played some decent games, guessing a 2000 player, perhaps a bit higher. Needless to say he was deadly if you gave him the right oblique co-planer quad proscenium. ;) |
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Nov-10-09
| | Phony Benoni: Picture of Franklin K. Young and some American patzers: http://books.google.com/books?id=53... No, not that one; go forward a few pages (this was as close as I could get). |
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| Nov-10-09 | | parisattack: <Phony Benoni: Picture of Franklin K. Young and some American patzers:
http://books.google.com/books?id=53...
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Dashing fellows, all! Is Pillsbury the only one without a moustache? If so and I can gain 400 ELO shaving mine I will do it in a trice! :) I wish I could post some scans from the BCC ledgers. The colored drawings are quite intricate...the penmenship is perfect; a lost art for sure! |
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| Nov-10-09 | | TheFocus: <Phony Benoni>< I used to have a copy of a game that Young thought up, complete with annotations, that was supposed to depict the Battle of Waterloo on the chessboard. Can't find it now, alas. It was, well, incredible.> You might want to check in Chess Strategetics Illustrated by Young, pg. 253 and beyond - "The Battle of Waterloo Historically and Technically Illustrated on the Chessboard." You can download it from Google/books. |
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Nov-10-09
| | Phony Benoni: <TheFocus> Thanks. <Calli> also referred me to that link. I've been downloading quite a bit of stuff from Google lately. It's hard to stop. At present, I'm working on the Anglo-American Cable Matches of 1896-1911. BCM is great for those. |
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| Nov-10-09 | | parisattack: How many of the Young tomes are on GoogleBooks?
Mine are not shelved at this time but i believe eight of them. One was heck to find (forgot which one) but the others fairly easy. Curiously all of them are 8vo size except Minor Tactics for which I've never seen an 8vo. |
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Nov-10-09
| | Phony Benoni: I see five or six at the moment:
<The Major Tactics of Chess>: http://books.google.com/books?id=T0... <The Grand Tactics of Chess>: http://books.google.com/books?id=bU... <The Minor Tactics of Chess>: http://books.google.com/books?id=jW... <Chess Strategetics Illustrated>: http://books.google.com/books?id=0k... <Chess Generalship>: http://books.google.com/books?id=UE... <Chess Generaliship, Volume 2, Part 1>: http://books.google.com/books?id=80... There may be more; I've found Google's indexing to be sporadic. |
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| Nov-12-09 | | TheFocus: <Phony Benoni> <TheFocus> Thanks. <Calli> also referred me to that link. <I've been downloading quite a bit of stuff from Google lately. It's hard to stop. At present, I'm working on the Anglo-American Cable Matches of 1896-1911. BCM is great for those.> Tony Gillam put out two booklets on those matches. Lots of annotations and match history. |
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Nov-12-09
| | Phony Benoni: <TheFocus> Ah! I figured somebody had to have worked on them! These were hard and evenly folught matches. Not only was the whole series tied 6-6 with one draw, but the two sides scored the name number of total points over the series. I'll have to see if I can get them on interlibrary loan from somewhere. Most of the games are available in the big online databases, but a lot of the dates are inconsistent. It would be nice to be sure. Here is what I've done so far: Game Collection: Anglo-American Cable Matches. I like to take my time with projects like this, so it will be a while before it is finished. |
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| Nov-17-09 | | TheFocus: <phony> I see that you are a librarian. I believe that you can find a lot of information about these matches in the New York Times. I remember looking at these about 30 years ago and thinking they would make a great book. Let me know if you cannot get those books by Tony Gillam. |
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| Nov-17-09 | | TheFocus: <phony> Also try www.rookhouse.com. Go to VISIT OUR BLOG and look in the Archives section, May 2008, for a 2 part article on the 1896 match. Photo of the trophy, pen drawings of the participants. |
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| Nov-17-09 | | AnalyzeThis: <" Always deploy so that the right oblique can be readily established in case the objective plane remains open or becomes permanently located on the centre or on the King's wing, or that the crochet aligned may readily be established if the objective plane becomes permanently located otherwise than at the extremity of the strategic front. " > I got a headache reading this. Is he basically saying: "Always keep your eye on the possibility of a kingside attack." ? |
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| Nov-17-09 | | TheFocus: I downloaded several of Young's books, but have never had the time to actually read them. I think I would have to eat a bullet if I was forced to read that over and over. Funny thing is that Capablanca and several strong players liked Young's books. |
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| Nov-17-09 | | parisattack: <TheFocus: I downloaded several of Young's books, but have never had the time to actually read them. I think I would have to eat a bullet if I was forced to read that over and over.
Funny thing is that Capablanca and several strong players liked Young's books.> They take awhile to get used too, for sure! Curiously his notes in the Boston Chess Club ledgers don't have much of that strange lingo at all. I suggest beginning with Kmoch - get familiar with frontspan, interspan, rams and such...you'll ease right into Young! :) If that doesn't work a couple 4oz Bombay martinis will clear things up right away. |
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Nov-20-09
| | Phony Benoni: <The Focus> I see the Gillam books on the Anglo-American cable matches are available online for 17£ (which I believe is about $25 U.S.), but I've got to resist the temptation to buy them. I'm still paying for all the stuff I bought in the 1980s. I've finished the spade work on the collection, and just have a couple of small questions which I think can be answered with the New York Times. Thanks for reminding me of that; my library has a full run on microfilm, so I'll just take the time and go through them someday. Unfortunately, we're stuck with the old-fashioned format; online access to the old issues costs an unconscionable amount of money. Only about one-fourth of the games are in our database, so I'll have to submit them and wait before the collection can be completed. |
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| Nov-20-09 | | Calli: <Phony Benoni> on the New York Times. "online access to the old issues costs an unconscionable amount of money." All access to 1851 to 1922 is free. You just have to finagle the advanced search a bit. For instance, http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstra... Let me know if it doesn't work for you. |
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Nov-20-09
| | Phony Benoni: <Calli> Thanks. Obviously I don't spend enough time on the Internet! |
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