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Mar-08-07 | | Calli: Identify the position in this Time Magazine cover:
http://picasaweb.google.com/Caissa1... This will get a response from P+2 :-> |
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Mar-08-07 | | schnarre: <SBC> Keep up the good work! I cannot recall for certain, but isn't there a variation of the King's Gambit named for Eisenberg? |
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Mar-08-07 | | SBC: <Calli>
I made what changes I could and included your wonderful "Field" article and photo of Alice. Do you think the page is ready for publication? Or shall I wait for <Pawn and Two>'s input? |
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Mar-08-07 | | Calli: <SBC> Looks good to me. Its up to you when to release. "This will get a response from P+2"
Well, maybe not. |
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Aug-18-07 | | Karpova: <‘… we are much mistaken if affairs chessical do not enjoy a notable enlivenment so long as he remains in our midst.’>
W.E. Napier writing about Eisenberg in the Pittsburgh Dispatch, 4 August 1904, as quoted on page 125 of Napier The Forgotten Chessmaster by John S. Hilbert (1997).
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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Aug-12-10
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New York, 15 April 1909
Two Knights’ Defence
1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6 4 Ng5 d5 5 exd5 Na5 6 Bb5+ c6 7 dxc6 bxc6 8 Be2 h6 9 Nf3 e4 10 Ne5 Qd4 11 f4 Bc5 12 Rf1 Bb6 13 c3 Qd6 14 b4 Nb7 15 Qa4 Bd7 16 Na3 O-O 17 Nac4 Qc7 18 Nxd7 Nxd7 19 Qc2 Rfe8 20 a4 a5 21 Rb1 Rad8 22 Qb3 Ba7 23 Ba3 axb4 24 cxb4 c5 25 b5 Na5 26 Nxa5 Qxa5 27 Bb2 Nb6 28 Qc3 Qxc3 29 Bxc3 Nxa4 30 Be5 Bb8 31 b6 Re6 32 Bc7 Rf8 33 Bd1 Bxc7 34 bxc7 Rb6 35 Ra1 Nb2 36 Bg4 Rc6 37 c8(Q) Rfxc8 38 Bxc8 Rxc8 39 Ke2 39...Rd8 40 g3 Kh7 41 f5 Nc4 42 Ra2 Rd5 43 g4 Ne5 44 Rf4 Nd3 45 Rf1 Ne5 46 Ra4 c4 47 h3 Nf3 48 Rxc4 Rxd2+ 49 Ke3 Rh2 50 Rd1 Ng5 51 Rd8 Rxh3+ 52 Ke2 Rh2+ 53 Ke3 Rh3+ 54 Kd2 g6 55 f6 e3+ 56 Ke2 Ne6 57 Rd7 g5 58 Rxf7+ Kg6 59 Re7 Kxf6 60 Rxe6+ Kxe6 61 Re4+ Kd5 62 Rxe3 Rxe3+ 63 Kxe3 Ke5 64 White resigns. <SBC>,
Here is a copy of the scoresheet from that game:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped... |
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Nov-24-12 | | Phony Benoni: A picture of the players at St. Louis 1904, including Eisenberg; http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/l... |
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Dec-29-14
 | | Stonehenge: Here's a Louis Raphael Eisenberg from Chicago https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903.... "Among the opponents disposed of by Edward Lasker in the western tournament at Memphis was L. R. Eisenberg, one-time member of the I. L. Rice Progressive Chess Club of Manhattan, later a resident of Chicago. but now hailing from Indiana. In Chicago, last season, Eisenberg, who won a game from Pillsbury in one of the international tournaments at Monte Carlo, defeated Lasker in a league match game, but at Memphis accounts were fully squared." http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/... |
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Jul-18-21
 | | Stonehenge: According to that link that guy was born 15 March 1875. Familysearch also has an Lewis Isenberg
b. 13 March 1875 in Uman.
d. 28 May 1943 in Manteno, Kankakee Illinois. |
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Feb-05-22
 | | Tabanus: Louis Raphael Eisenberg WW1 card dated 9-12-1918 has he was born 15 March 1975, white, naturalized, living in 4637 Calunel Ave. Chicago, married to Matilda (same address). He is a "shoe stock keeper". Louis Raphael Eisenberg and Mathilda Fendig married in New Orleans 19 March 1913. |
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Feb-05-22
 | | Tabanus: Shoes, heh. There is a Louis Eisenberg who was indicted in San Antonio, Texas in 1921 for stealing shoes valued at several hundred dollars. He fled to Mexico, but was arrested in Mexico at the request of Texas and was sent back to Texas in 1925. (San Antonio Express, 12 June 1925) |
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Jan-21-23 | | whiteshark: Still undead? |
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Jan-21-23 | | stone free or die: Is it possible he was living in Iowa at the tender age of 80? <m Arshak received a letter last saturday from his brother inlaw Louis Eisenberg of Odessa Russia aying that he expects to visit him his summer or Eisenberg is a chess player of International reputation and will visit this country for the purpose of participating in the chess tournament to be held in new York this sum Mer> [OCR] https://newspaperarchive.com/milfor... Milford Mail in Milford, Iowa
10 May 1956 p6
Or perhaps the interpretation that he "will visit this country" implies he moved back overseas somewhere (thus according for the trail going cold in the USA)? |
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Jan-22-23 | | stone free or die: Or there was another Louis Eisenberg from Odessa who had an international reputation by that point? (A relative?) |
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Jan-23-23 | | WilhelmThe2nd: <zed> The item you quote from the Milford Mail in 1956 was from the 'Down Memory Lane' column which was quoting it from 55 years before. It originally apppeared in the May 2nd, 1901 issue. You can search this newspaper here:
https://dickinson.advantage-preserv...
The chessplayer L. R. Eisenberg does in fact appear to be the Louis Raphael Eisenberg, mentioned above by <Tabanus>, who married Mathilda 'Tillie' Fendig in New Orleans in 1913. This is clearly also the Lewis Isenberg, mentioned above by <Stonehenge>, who passed away at Manteno, Kankakee County, Illinois on May 28th, 1943. Both the former and the latter records list his parents as Raphael (E)isenberg and Nina Camnetz. The death certificate for Lewis Isenberg gives his wife's name as 'Kitty Fendig'. |
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Jan-23-23 | | stone free or die: <WilhelmThe2nd> thank you must for that research, and finding a readable copy of the Milford Mail article. Quick question - what do you make of the discrepancy in the dob, i.e. 1875 vs 1876? Hilbert, and his WW1 card (<Tab>) both give 1876, his death certificate (<stonehenge>) gives 1875. . |
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Jan-24-23 | | WilhelmThe2nd: <zed> Louis Raphael Eisenberg's U.S. WW1 Draft Registration card gives his birth date as 'March 15 1875'. The Louisiana voter registration for Louis R. Eisenberg of New Orleans from Dec. 21st, 1911 and Dec. 19th, 1913 also both give the birth year '1875'. (Incidentally, the New Orleans Times-Democrat chess column mentions that the chessplayer L. R. Eisenberg was playing in New Orleans during 1911-13 which seems to further confirm that he was Louis Raphael Eisenberg). A poorly handwritten '5' can look like a '6' or a '3'. I assume that explains the discrepancy for the day of birth on his death certificate. (There appears to be a discrepancy between the age given for him on his marriage registration and his marriage license due to poor handwriting.) Hilbert was quoting a chess column of Napier's. It might have been a misprint. Another possibility is that Napier was told Eisenberg's age at the Monte Carlo 1902 tournament. That event ended just before Eisenberg's 27th birthday. So if Napier was told that Eisenberg was 26 years old at the tournament he might have calculated his birth year as 1876 from that. There is a discrepancy in that his marriage license and marriage registration both give his place of birth as Odessa (as does Napier in his write-up about him) whereas the death certificate for Lewis Isenberg gives his place of birth as Uman. The death certificate for Lewis Isenberg states that he had been at Manteno State Hospital for 3 years, 2 months and 19 days before his death. The 1940 U.S. Census lists him as an 'inmate' at the Manteno State Hospital. |
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Jan-24-23 | | stone free or die: First, an apology, especially to <Tab> for my sloppy first reading of his comment. Louis Eisenberg (kibitz #84) The 1975-03-15 typo is clearly meaning 1875-03-15, as <WilhelmThe2nd> has confirmed. * * * * *
So, do you think we have enough data to update both his dob (1875-03-15) and dod (1943-05-28)? And to add his middle initial to R, or Raphael?
(He appeared in the literature as L.R. on more than one occasion) As for his place of birth - I think Odessa is strongest still, but a note about Uman should be added. Also, any chance of finding the <Pittsburgh Dispatch, 4 August 1904> that Napier published (and Hilbert used)? (I would love to see <chessical gradgrinds> appearing in a scan! https://www.chesshistory.com/winter...) . |
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Jan-25-23 | | WilhelmThe2nd: <zed> Eisenberg himself gave Odessa as his place of birth when he married in 1913. So I think it is best to go with that. The Odessa chess historian Sergei Tkachenko gives Eisenberg's first name as 'Leonid'. Things are slightly more confused by the fact that Eisenberg's sister gave her father's name as 'Mandel Isenberg' on a marriage document. Incidentally, Eisenberg appears in the 1920 U.S. Census as 'Lewis R. Isenberg' living with his wife in Chicago, though some of the information given for him is wrong. I looked around online for the 'Pittsburg Dispatch' but it appears that only the issues from the early 1890s have been digitized. |
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Jan-25-23 | | stone free or die: Thanks again, as always, <W> (if I may). I was at the library today, and tried to find a few hits on Proquest for him. I don't think I found much, but I'll comb through it again soon. Cheers. |
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Jan-25-23 | | WilhelmThe2nd: Despite the description of this photo being given as "Chess player, Emil Eisenburg...", I believe this is actually Louis R. Eisenberg: https://images.chicagohistory.org/s... |
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Jan-25-23 | | stone free or die: <W> - One of my hits on Proquest seemed to suggest an Eisenberg was active in chess in Chicago near the time of Monte Carlo. Might be the same, or might be different.
Eisenberg is a fairly common name. Might there be another Eisenberg there - perhaps even one related to L.R? |
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Jan-26-23 | | WilhelmThe2nd: <zed> The Chicago Daily Tribune chess column from Jan. 18th, 1903 reported that L. R. Eisenberg had been visiting the local club in Chicago. Louis R. Eisenberg was definitely playing in Illinois in 1904 when the photo was taken. If you compare it with the other photos of Louis R. Eisenberg it certainly looks like him. I have never seen any mention of another chessplayer related to Louis R. Eisenberg. There was an A. Eisenberg who was a strong amateur active in Vienna, Austria in the 1920s & 1930s and an Ira C. Isenberg active in Pennsylvania after WW1. However, I have seen no indication of any connection they may have had with Louis R. Eisenberg. |
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Jan-26-23 | | stone free or die: <W> that's pretty thorough, and I'm pretty much convinced by your admirable work - but I'll still report back when I review my clippings. Do we know how and when Eisenberg came to America? Voyage lists, or any NYC or Chicago family/business connections? Also, did he ever naturalize formally?
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Just for fun I searched the chicagohistory images for all Eisenberg hits, and found an additional item, from 1940: https://images.chicagohistory.org/s... |
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Jan-29-23 | | WilhelmThe2nd: <zed> In both the 1920 & 1940 U. S. Censuses, Eisenberg is listed as being a naturalized citizen. The 1920 Census says he was naturalized in 1903 (but it also claims he first came to the U.S. in 1892 and gives Germany as the place of birth of himself and both his parents). His Louisiana voter registration entries for Dec. 21st, 1911 and Dec. 19th, 1913 both record that he was naturalized at the Circuit Court of Cook County, Illinois in 1903. In any case, he came to the country before the 5-year residency requirement was in effect and laws on naturalization varied from state to state (e.g. his brother-in-law came the U.S. in 1890 and was naturalized the next year). So it looks like Napier was right when he wrote in 1903 that "Mr. Eisenberg is a full citizen of the United States". Regarding Eisenberg's arrival in the U.S. in 1902 to visit his sister in Iowa and his taking up a job at his brother-in-law's clothing store in Lakefield, Minnesota, here are some items from <The Milford Mail>: <M. Arshak received a letter last Monday from his brother-in-law, Louis Eisenburg, Mrs. Arshak's brother, written from Monte Carlo, saying that he had just won the first prize in the international chess tournament, defeating the American champion, Harry Pillsbury. Mr. Eisenburg's home is in Odessa, Russia, where he is employed by a large company of English merchants. Another brother of Mrs. Arshak's was private secretary and agent for Dreyfus, the French soldier, who recently has been causing so much trouble in France, while the youngest brother is a soldier in the Russian army.> 'The Milford Mail', Mar. 27th, 1902, Page 5 <Louis Eisenburg, a brother of Mrs. M. Arshak, and the man who defeated Harry Pillsbury, the American chess champion, in Europe this spring, arrived in New York last week and he may visit here before he returns to his home in Odessa, Russia.> 'The Milford Mail', July 24th, 1902, Page 5 <M. Arshak returned Friday from his trip east. He was accompanied home by his brother in-law, Louis Eisenberg, of Odessa, Russia, who will visit in this country for some time.> 'The Milford Mail', Aug. 7th, 1902, Page 5 <M. Arshak has decided to open a branch store in Lakefield, Minnesota, and is having the goods sent up there this week. He has recently purchased a large and complete stock, and as it would have crowded the store here he put in the store at Lakefield. The business there will be in charge of his uncle, I. M. Levy, and his brother-in-law, Louis Eisenberg. The branch store at Good Thunder, Minnesota, is now looked after by Harry Arshak and S. Bernbaum. Mr. Arshak will do the right thing by the people of Lakefield if they want to do business.> 'The Milford Mail', Aug. 28th, 1902, Page 5 <Mrs. Arshak went to Lakefield, Minnesota, last Tuesday, and will spend a few days there visiting with her brother, Louis Eisenberg, who has charge of M. Arshak's store there.> 'The Milford Mail', Oct. 2nd, 1902, Page 5 <M. Arshak was transacting business at Lakefield, Minnesota, last week. He has decided to close up his Lakefield store for the present.> 'The Milford Mail', Jan. 15th, 1903, Page 5 There does not seem to be any record available online of Eisenberg's entry into the United States in 1902. His brother-in-law's chain of clothing stores included a branch in Chicago where he also did a lot of his buying of stock. After his brother-in-law closed his store in Milford in 1905, he and his family moved permanently to Chicago (some of his relatives also lived there). It also appears that Eisenberg's wife, who was born and raised in Indiana, had some family in Chicago as well. |
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