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| Nov-08-07 | | Robert James: Hello,
About ponziani, i played this game recently. It was a 15min game and i was black. Im quite a patzer and i thought if one of you could check it out and maybe give some comments. I think i was defending the whole game, but luckily my opponent ran out of time. How could black play for attack and initiative? I dont like my play, its too passive, but i always end up playing like this. Thanks. 1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 Nf6
4. d3 d6
5. Be2 Be7
6. 0-0 Bg4
7. Be3 Bxf3
8. Bxf3 0-0
9. Nd2 b6
10. d4 Nb8
11. dxe5 dxe5
12. Nc4 Nbd7
13. a4 c5
14. Bg5 h6
15. Bxf6 Bxf6
16. Nd6 a5
17. Bg4 Qe7
18. Nb5 Nb8
19. Qd5 Ra6
20. Rad1 Rd8
21. Qc4 Nc6
22. Rxd8+ Qxd8
23. Rd1 Qe7
24. Rd7 Qf8
25. Nd6 Ra7
26. Rxa7 Nxa7
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| Jan-09-08 | | D.Observer: Would the popularity of this opening increase this year? |
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| Aug-01-08 | | Silverstrike: An interesting loss of mine in this opening.
White: Julius Schwartz (1679)
Black: Elliot Sloan (1856)
March the 30th 2008
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Be7 4.d4 exd4 5.c3 dxc3 6.0-0 (I should've played 6.Qd5) 6...d6 7.Nxc3 Nf6 8.Bg5 0-0 9.Qc2 a6 10.Rad1 b5 11.Bb3 Bg4 12.e5 Nxf3 13.exf6 Bxf6 14.Bxf6 Bxd1 15.Nxd1 Qxf6 16.Qxc6 Rfe8 17.Qc2 c5 18.a3 c4 19.Ba2 d5 20.Bb1 g6 21.f4 d4 22.f5 d3 23.Qc1 Qd4+ 24.Kh1 d2 25.Qc3 Re1 26.Qf3 Rae8 27.Resigns |
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| Aug-25-08 | | drukenknight: Reverse Philidor's comes to an amusing end. I've given up trying to bash people who play ....Bc5 against my ponziani, so I've decided to play philidor's in reverse and let them show me how to play it. THis gets confusing when I start using black's tactics e.g. pinning the N on f6.. 1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 Bc5
4. d3 Nf6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. Qc2 O-O
7. Nbd2 d5
8. O-O-O dxe4
9. dxe4 Nxe4? (probably ..Ng4 is fine)
10. Nxe4 Bxg5+
11. Nfxg5 Qe7
Position after 11..Qe7, funny huh?
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| Aug-27-08 | | drukenknight: Insane ponziani-DO NOT ATTEMPT WITHOUT A COMPUTER. We played 7, quite obvious, moves into this and threw up our hands in despair: 1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 Nf6
4. Qa4 Be7 (makes sense, but only two games in the data base?) 5. Bc4 apparently no one has tried this.
5...d5
6. exd5 Nxd5
7. Nxe5 Nb6
Position afer 7...Nb6 okay now what?
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| Apr-06-09 | | c o r e: Since it's the opening of the day, I'll have to comment here: I love playing the Ponziani during casual games on breaks at work. It never fails to create wild open positions! |
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| Jul-15-09 | | drukenknight: We play the Ponziani w/ 3...Bc5 following in the footsteps of Horwitz as well as Samuel Lloyd... 1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. c3 Bc5
4. b4 Bb6
5. b5 Na5
6. Nxe5 Qe7
7. d4 d6
8. Nf3 the novelty; 3 games in the crap database got to 8 Ba3 including Horwitz/Harrwitz 1846, and Sam Lloyd and his father …Qxe4+
9. Be2 Bg4
10. Nbd2 Qe6
11. O-O Ne7
12. Re1 O-O
13. Bd3 Qd7
14. Qc2 h6
15. Ne4 (I did this just to open the g file.)
15... Bxf3
16. gxf3 Ng6
17. Ng3 Qh3 (..c5 maybe sounder but game is still ok) 18. Bf5 Qh4
19. Re4 Qf6
20. Rg4
Position after 20 Rg4 how does it continue:
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| Jul-16-09 | | blacksburg: what's the big deal with this line? <1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Bc4 Nf6> or <1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.d4 exd4>
click for larger viewrecently, like half of my games against 1.e4 end up in this position. i'm not complaining, i like playing black's position here. is there some new repertoire book that recommends this line? no one has played the ruy lopez against me in a week or so online, it's always this, or some other garbage line. ok maybe it's not garbage, but i'm not scared of it at all, and i'm easy to scare in the opening. |
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| Aug-07-09 | | whiteshark: Opening of the Day
<Göring Gambit <1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.c3>> 
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Opening Explorer Following one main line with <4... dxc3 5.Nxc3 Bb4 6.Bc4 Nf6 7.e5 d5 8.exf6 dxc4 9.Qxd8+ Nxd8 10.fxg7 Rg8 11.Bh6> 
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Opening Explorer leads to a difficult if not lost position for black. |
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| Aug-16-09 | | drukenknight: well dont take the pawn (4...dxc3) Ive found a lot of these openings work better when I dont keep grabbing more pawns. |
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| Aug-22-10 | | rapidcitychess: Opening of the day is the Goring gambit. Seems pretty unsound, at least as much as sound as the Danish. Then again, I think no gambits are sound in my materialism. I really need to get over that. |
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May-07-11
 | | Penguincw: Opening of the Day
Ponziani's Opening
1.e4 e5 2.♘f3 ♘c6 3.c3 |
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Feb-11-12
| | Penguincw: Opening of the Day
Konstantinopolsky Opening
1.e4 e5 2.♘f3 ♘c6 3.g3
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Mar-18-12
| | Penguincw: Opening of the Day
Goring Gambit
1.e4 e5 2.♘f3 ♘c6 3.d4 exd4 4.c3
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Aug-31-13
| | Penguincw: Opening of the Day
Konstantinopolsky Opening
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.g3
I'm guessing it's named after Alexander Konstantinopolsky |
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| Aug-31-13 | | parisattack: I only find him playing it in Konstantinopolsky-Ontsjunkin, Corr 1958 1-0: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. g3 d6 4. Bg2 Nf6 5. d3 g6 6. O-O Bg7 7. Nc3 O-O 8. h3 Be6 9. Ng5 Bd7 10. Be3 Nd4 11. Kh2 h6 12. Nf3 c5 13. Nd2 Bc6 14. f4 exf4 15. Bxf4 Nh5 16. Nc4 Nxf4 17. gxf4 f5 18. Nd5 Bxd5 19. exd5 b5 20. Ne3 Re8 21. Qd2 b4 22. Rae1 Qd7 23. Nc4 Rab8 24. c3 bxc3 25. bxc3 Nb5 26. Rxe8+ Rxe8 27. Rc1 Re7 28. Bf3 Bf6 29. a4 Nc7 30. d4 cxd4 31. cxd4 Ne8 32. Ne5 Bxe5 33. dxe5 Qxa4 34. Rc8 Rc7 35. Bd1 Qd7 36. Rb8 Kh7 37. Qd4 Ng7 38. Rf8 dxe5 39. Qxe5 Rc1 40. Qb8 g5 41. Ba4 Qe7 42. Rh8+ Kg6 43. Qe5 1-0 One can play the KIA against most 1. e4 defenses but I wouldn't think it too effective after 1. ...e5. Anyone here with practical experience? |
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| Oct-06-13 | | Kikoman: <Opening of the Day> Goring Gambit
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. c3
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| Dec-15-13 | | parisattack: PONZIANI - Opening of the Day
Nothing at all wrong with the ol' Ponz if you don't mind getting your hands dirty early in the game. Ponziani Books -
Bickford/Salmone - Modern Ponziani Opening
Carlier - Trends in the Open Games
Estrin/Glazkov - Three Double KP Openings
Harding - Ponziani Opening
Smith/Camarra - Ponziani Opening
Taylor/Hayward 0 Play the Ponziani
Tmcsanyi - The Ponziani Opening
National Master Bob Wendling did a through analysis of the Ponziani back in the early 1970s. I still have the original manuscript. Although it is only a few pages front-back (handwritten) it would be a small book because Bob's handwriting was so incredible small. |
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| Dec-15-13 | | parisattack: 'thorough' - and there is also a Ponziani Opening by Russell/Cohn which is 'print of demand.' I think such books are simply compilations of material found on the Internet. |
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| Dec-29-17 | | refutor: hello gambiteers! I am playing an active tournament in a month or so and looking for an old 1800s-style gambit against 1.e4 e5. I've looked at king's gambit, evans gambit, Belgrade gambit, scotch gambit, goring gambit and am looking for something different in the scotch, but what I would *really* like is something to shove at those petroff-ers who play 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nc3 Bb4 |
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| Dec-29-17 | | Petrosianic: You mention a lot of stuff you considered, but don't say why you rejected it. The Evans is probably the most playable of the 19th century gambits. If you're looking for an anti-Petroff line, are you crazy enough to consider the Cochrane Gambit? (1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nxf7) Of course, if you want to avoid the Petroff, maybe the King's Gambit is the line for you. |
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| Dec-29-17 | | Petrosianic: Not a Gambit line, but generally speaking, Petroff players tend to be less prepared for 3. d4 than 3. Nxe5. The old line after 3. d4 was exd4, which led to 4. e5 Ne4 5. Qxd4 d5 6. exd6 Nxd6 
click for larger viewI don't like this position for black at all. Despite the symmetry of the pawns, he's underdeveloped in a wide open position. He's got to tread pretty carefully, especially if it's a fast time control and he's not prepared for this line. 3...Nxe4 is better, but I haven't played 3. d4 against the Petroff enough lately to know which move people are playing. I might start playing that and seeing how it goes. |
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| Dec-30-17 | | refutor: that's a good suggestion. I really don't care for the two knights (as White) so I have avoided the Evans Gambit in the past but maybe time has softened me on playing against that opening :) |
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Oct-07-18
 | | GrahamClayton: <parisattack>
Ponziani Books -
Bickford/Salmone - Modern Ponziani Opening
Carlier - Trends in the Open Games
Estrin/Glazkov - Three Double KP Openings
Harding - Ponziani Opening
Smith/Camarra - Ponziani Opening
Taylor/Hayward 0 Play the Ponziani
Tmcsanyi - The Ponziani Opening
<parisattack>,
I have the Harding and Tomcsanyi books in my library, along with the book that David Taylor authored by himself - "Ponziani Power - The Complete Revitalization of a Traditional Opening". My copy also has handwritten analysis by David which I attached to the book on the relevant page. |
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Oct-22-19
 | | bckm: PONZIANI line:
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Bc5?! Why? It just makes the planned break for
White more forceful... 4. d4 exd4 5. cxd4 Bb4+ 6. Bd2 Bxd2+ 7. Qxd2 Here
Fritz assesses this position as clearly better for White, and it's hard to
disagree. I won't bore you with my 1600-strength analysis, but look at White's space advantage, and note that White has ♘O weaknesses. |
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