Thank you , <wtpy> . Regards

<Bobsterman3000: <Carrots and Pizza - To count errors or hyperbole as lies is dishonest. If someone things Clinton was never charged with a crime and they are shown that he was, it doesn't make his statement a lie. Not all false statements are lies.> <wtpy: Keypusher, Absolutely right. Even mistaking a fact doesn't make you a liar, it just makes you mistaken.>

Sure, you people are right.

But for someone to (still) keep claiming that "collusion is now proven" is not being mistaken at this point. It's just willfully lying.>

Good that you want to settle it.

I too want to settle/resolve it for once and all, however, presently I am a little too busy with work .

I will come back to this conversation and take it to its logical conclusion and show why I think you are completely wrong ,<bobsterman> ,in calling <saffuna> a liar.

I am posting this post in the forum of <keypusher> and in the forum of <johnlspouge> (for the future reference of <wtpy> and others). I hope <keypusher> and <johnlspouge> would be ok with it.

Thank you guys. Let us try to elevate our conversations as much as we can.

My musical ear must be improving. I was a little bothered that the chicken's pecks did not correspond to the notes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYh...

I am always curious about perfect pitch. Two members of my family have it (daughter and sister), but in my case, the math genes definitely crowded it out ;>)

I did not notice the gradual pitch change, but I have an acquaintance who has perfect pitch. Under measurement, he claims to have detected a 4-cent deviation from standard tuning. I will play the video for him to see whether he gets its purpose without explanation.

More practically important, imo, is relative pitch. Recognising interval relationships and deconstructing diads/triads/compounds helps make much more sense of keys/harmonies and what 'works' and why theoretically. It was such a big moment when that penny dropped.

2)i learned a lot from the conversations in <rogoff> forum and i am thankful to <chessgames.com> for that.

3)my two most favorite posters on rogoff are <johnlspouge> (a left winger) and <keypusher> (a right winger , on some issues , he is on right of even trump). These two people had the level to be very , very dispassionate in the conversations and provide very in depth analysis of issues based on concrete empirical evidence and numbers. Highest level of depth/clarity of thinking coupled with dispassion.

I learned a lot from them and once again i express my thanks to chessgames.com

4)<keypusher> was always very vocal about bad signal/noise ratio in rogoff forum. He often ecpressed frustration over what he called 'shout show ' and 'monkey throwing faeces ' show.

Nonetheless , we somehow managed .

5)however , now the signal/noise ratio is so bad , 'the usual suspects ' have crossed all the lines in their 'monkey throwing faeces show ' and 'shout show ' , that i don't see any conversations from the sanest voices of rogoff forum any more - i don't think there is any room for them to have conversations in rogoff forum any more ,it has become a nuthouse.

6)<tiggler> likes conversations in stumper forum (<tiggler> is professor of electronics engineering in some american university . Daniel freeman was also a regular in stumper forum as <sneaky> ). Stumper forum has a very good signal/noise ratio because of the nature of conversations in that forum . When <johnbarleycorn> posted there by making a sock puppet account (because he was suspended) , <tiggler> was very unhappy . He was like "now that <johnbarleycorn> is back flame wars will be back again ".

There are people who want high quality , dispassionate comversations without any 'shout show ' and 'monkey throwing faeces ' show.

7)if things improve , perhaps , i would be back again. Meanwhile , once again , heartfelt thanks to <chessgames.com>

I hope you are well. Coals to Newcastle :)

"TOP 20 ACOUSTIC GUITAR INTROS OF ALL TIME"

Rick Beato

<Keypusher> has repeatedly said <you are trying to have a rational conversation with a troll/idiot. Let me know how it goes >

Now , that is very , very smart and i think that finally i am ready to apply this in life : to size up situations and people very , very quickly and take that into account when we choose to respond ....usually , people keep talking with a lot of energy/passion and in their mind they talking very smart - without talking into account level/state of receiver....if we talk post graduation level stuff to a fifth grader and everytime end up frustrated and as a result becoming ever more impatient and aggressive every time...if so , we need to increase our level of maturity....not everyone is ready for that level of maturity ...hopefully , i am ...

<Saffuna> is beyond help , however, i hope i would keep increasing my maturity level all my life to reach level of <nisargadatta> and beyond

2) it is time i start acting my age and talk only to mature people like <johnlspouge> and <keypusher>

Coincidentally, have been loaned a nice electro-classical and have found a German company that actually makes low tension steel strings so the neck won't get jiggered. Been rediscovering things like Chet Atkins, Ry Cooder and, especially the goddess Joni Mitchell (If you're not familiar with her Hejira album give it a shot on a long trip) during lockdown. You must be psychedelic.

Hope you are well

1) these days , i am increasing my earnestness manifold to reach level of purity of heart and dispassion of jesus quickly and therefore i have narrowed down my focus immensely...staying away from all useless conversations

2) i am teaching 'linear algebra ' to my niece these days from hoffman/kunze book and i am loving teaching this subject.

John , one thing thst i stuggle with is my memory. I tend to forget theorems of math very quickly even if i know/understand them very thoroughly/deeply and therefore , i need to revise them very often.

2) here is a hypothesis that i am testing these days - <if we earnestly work towards reaching the level of jesus in dispassion and purity of heart , our memory improves tremendously much before reaching the level of jesus in dispassion >

You had told me that at the age of 13 , you disappeared in your basement with a calcululus book for 15 days and reading that calculus book was indescribably wonderful experience...

Well, similar experience i had studying hoffman/kunze book of 'linear algebra ' , especially theorems about coordinate matrix and basis of vector space (except that unlike you , i studied these subjects much later in life :) )

Well, i love studying , analyzing maths

I intend to start learning english grammar - hope , i would be able to make time. I am starting with < parts of speech>. Do you know some good link on web or should i just google?

1) as long as restlessness is there in body/mind , there can not be perfect energy...we got to be as restful as when in deep dreamless sleep

2) As long as emotions/desires/fears are not dissolved completely , there would be some restlessness

3) as long as thrre is individuality , there would be restlessness. We got to dissolve individuality - 'i'

We got to dissolve individuality by trancending consciousness ...by abiding in changeless, eternal Absolute

We got to be advanced/mature enough to spot slightest emotion/sensation in body. If emotions/sensations are there , individuality ('i') is there. As soon as we spot , we should ask 'who is having these emotions/sensations ' (implicitly or explicitly) . If we are ripe/advanced/mature , this question would immediately take us to Absolute.

4) that is how we reach 'kingdom of heaven that is within ' ...transcendence and immanence ...'to be in the world but not of world '...perfect dispassion/detachment

Z: You might be very close to enlightenment

Me :

No.

Because for that one has to abide in Atman all the time. And that is what my practice is these days- to be able to abide in Atman every moment and be free from individuality.

Once i reach that point , i may say that i am close to enlightenment. Presently , i feel far from that point

2) for example , my level is that i am able to abide in Atman, level of j is that he able to watch gap between breaths/thoughts , level of some other person might be that he is able to watch breaths...whatever level is ...point is to give up, dissolve thoughts/emotions every moment...

Perfect noise/signal ratio....

3)my sadhna, determination is so relentless that gods bow to me , arjuna/eklavya bow to me.

4)things are easy for me now , however, there have been times when it was tough for me ....very, very tough ...excruciatingly tough...not once my sadhna/determination wavered....i was always like 'jitni mushkil aur badegi , utna tap main aur karoonga '(if it gets tougher, i would increase my sadhna/practice/tap)....