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| Mar-11-06 | | blingice: I found a very good correspondence Chess960 website: www.schemingmind.com |
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| Mar-12-06 | | IMFSTJP: Why would you play Fischer Random Chess, to avoid Theory, when playing the Pekovic System, you can do exactly the same? |
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| Apr-13-06 | | Gene M: At a Reno NV weekend tournament over Sat 2006/04/08, I asked Alex Yermolinsky to please sign a copy of my chess960 book I published in Jan 2006. To my surprise Yermo recognized the book and said "Did you write this book?". Yes, I did. "Three days ago I gave a lecture where I talked about this book. I have not read the whole book yet, but it is quite interesting". I took him to mean that he at least mentioned my book during the lecture. Anyway, I was stunned, so all I could think of to say in reply was "I like your books too!". Gene Milener
http://CastleLong.com/
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| Apr-29-06 | | Elixir of Life: What about the rule that no draw on consent could be made if the game is less than 25 moves? |
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Apr-30-06
 | | Sneaky: Perhaps the shortest game I've played in my entire life happened just yesterday. I got one move in before I resigned.
click for larger viewThe game went: 1.f4 g6? 2.Bxa7 1-0
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| Apr-30-06 | | blingice: That seems too dramatic to resign that early. If you exchange a bishop for rook and pawn in a normal game, you'd usually try to play it out for at least a couple more moves, right? The shock of losing your rook that early is quite noticable though. |
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| May-05-06 | | DeepBlade: <About the resign>In the unknown world of FRC it isnt the same disaster as in Chess1. How I think in FRC games;
I look how the pieces are in initial position, what are my weaknesses and what kinda advantage do I have due the lineup. In Chess1 you know how automatic the moves are, but in FRC you need to invent it all by yourself. I think about possible development lines, and kingsafety. Pawnstructure is also very important, because of the unusual lineup of pieces. FRC's good side: Its dynamic. FRC's bad side: Its dynamic. As we can see in <Sneaky>'s short game, the 1.f4 move creates a natural (form initial position arousing) threat. Instead of g6, you should cover the threat and develop a piece, e.g Nc6. |
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| May-08-06 | | capatal: <ALL General Question> Fischer's preferred game(he has stated this freguently, is Fischer Random Chess-HAS Bobby Fischer played SOME-ANY-ONE Even...
recorded games of his beloved Fischer
Random Chess for his current supporters and posterity)or is it how you say 'lip service only?' in his scheme of things for posterity
(and his legions of supporters?)
A disappointed Fischer fan.
Of many decades.
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May-08-06
 | | BishopBerkeley: <capatal> I don't believe any recorded games exist, though I believe GM Zsuzsa Polgar has played FischerRandom against Mr. Fischer. In this little interview snippet, from March 25, 2005, in Reykjavik, Iceland, Mr. Fischer mentions his hope to play in the future.... [Icelandic [?] woman]: What do you want to do, what are your interests? Bobby Fischer: I like FischerRandom, I like, I want to finish my clock, I like to travel, I like to talk. I like, you know, I am full of ambition on the Chessboard, off the Chessboard, you know.... You may hear this snippet here (MP3 format, about 2 MB download): http://100bestwebsites.org/alt/bbb/... It is a small enough audio snippet that it does not contain the usual hurtful harangues that we so often hear from Mr. Fischer. It contains a bit more than just the quote above. (I wish Mr. Fischer well, though I do wish he would overcome certain thoughts that I (and many others) deem hurtful and misguided.) (: ♗ Bishop Berkeley ♗ :)
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| May-08-06 | | blingice: <BishopBerkeley: (I wish Mr. Fischer well, though I do wish he would overcome certain thoughts that I (and many others) deem hurtful and misguided.)> Some interview/report on the Fischer page noted that he had lead fillings (leading to poisoning, etc.) I still don't excuse him. |
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May-08-06
 | | Ron: I have played some Fischer Random games and it seems to me that there is one aspect of strategy of Fischer Random that differs from classical chess--some may disagree with my hypothesis and I would be interested in seeing comments: In Fischer Random chess, control of the center is not always important. Why does that seem to me like that? Perhaps it depends on how the pieces are arranged. In classical chess, there are pieces in the intial position naturally aiming toward the center, such as the queen, the bishops, and even the knights. It has also been observed that there are move flank pawn moves in the opening of Fischer Random games. |
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| May-08-06 | | Akavall: <Ron><In Fischer Random chess, control of the center is not always important. Why does that seem to me like that? Perhaps it depends on how the pieces are arranged. In classical chess, there are pieces in the intial position naturally aiming toward the center, such as the queen, the bishops, and even the knights. It has also been observed that there are move flank pawn moves in the opening of Fischer Random games.> This was my experience too. Also, I would like to add that it might seem that flank pawn moves might lead to a complex tactical fight, but from my experience the opposite was true, very often the pieces quickly found a way to leave the board, and we were left with a simple typical endgame. |
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| May-08-06 | | Jarlaxle: <Ron> i would agree that in 960 control of the center is not always best.<Ron> <there are pieces in the intial position naturally aiming toward the center, such as the queen, the bishops, and even the knights> I disagree that pieces are naturally aiming toward the center in chess1. I think we place the piece in the center because of basic theory. the pieces have many options away from the center, but as a chess player you 'naturaly' march that way. |
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| May-09-06 | | Gene M: <Ron>In Fischer Random chess, control of the center is not always important. Why does that seem to me like that? Perhaps it depends on how the pieces are arranged. In classical chess, there are pieces in the intial position naturally aiming toward the center, such as the queen, the bishops, and even the knights. It has also been observed that there are move flank pawn moves in the opening of Fischer Random games.</Ron> - - - - -
[1] These are very insightful comments. Understand the implications: traditional chess1 is hiding from us some major opening principles of fundamental chess. Chess960 continuously samples all the principles of chess, but chess1 never provides us exposure to a whole chunk of fundamental chess. In my book (review link below) I explain that even the middle game phase of fundamental chess is abridged by the unrelenting restriction of chess1. - - - - - -
[2] I agree the center is a little less or more important, depending on the specifics of each chess960 initial setup. However, the board of 64 squares is the same in every chess960 game. So I think the bigger difference you are noticing comes from the different approaches to controlling the center that are better facilitated in some non-chess1 initial setups. Consider the August 2003 games of BBNR-KRQN (PGN available on http://www.ChessTigers.de/). Without consulting on strategy, four GMs agreed to not move either their 'd' or 'e' pawns during the entire opening (first 12 move pairs). But they fought for the center in hypermodern style. See page 144 in my book. - - - - - -
[3] Very insightful comment about wing pawn advances! John Watson noted that recently GMs playing chess1 have begun to realize wing pawn advances are a more reasonable idea than previously thought. In a chess960 world that middle game principle becomes clear right away. Just more that chess1 is hiding from us about fundamental chess.
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http://chessville.com/reviews/
PlayStrongerChessExaminingChess960.htm
Thanks.
Gene Milener
http://CastleLong.com/
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| May-09-06 | | Hesam7: What are the time controls for FISCHERANDOM CHESS? I guess it should be at least 3 hours for the first 40 minutes. |
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| May-09-06 | | technical draw: <Hesam7> 3 hours for the first 40 minutes? Wow, time delay. Einstein would be proud. |
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| May-09-06 | | Hesam7: <technical draw> LoL :-)) I meant 3 hours for the first 40 moves. One might require adjournments, otherwise players might end up playing for 10 hours. |
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| May-10-06 | | Gene M: <Sneaky> Perhaps the shortest game I've played in my entire life happened just yesterday. I got one move in before I resigned. </Sneaky> - - - -
NRKN-RQBB (R#598, S#279)
1. f24 g76 2. Bg1:a7 resigns 1-0
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Some would look at this game and say "Chess960 has a flaw of sometimes giving White too big an advantage from having the first move of the game." I would disagree. The problem is not in chess960, but in the arbitrary rule carried over from chess1 that White's first move is UNfettered.
The proper rule would say that player 2 gets to choose which color to play after player 1 makes White's first ply. (There is a way to avoid having to rotate the board or switch chairs.) This would motivate White to open with a move that gave each color even chances to win. This reminds of the mother who tells her son to cut the last cupcake in half, but then lets her daughter choose which half she preferes. Gene Milener
http://CastleLong.com/
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| May-10-06 | | Gene M: <Elixir of Life> What about the rule that no draw on consent could be made if the game is less than 25 moves? </Elixir of Life> How about a slight tweak to the existing draw rule. Instead of each draw offer expiring after the receiver make 1 subsequent ply, change it to 2 subsequent plies. That way it would be riskly to offer a draw in a position that still had life. The receiver could use his immediate next ply to make a complex move that would otherwise be risky. Maybe next guy who offered the draw would make a mistake in re-ply. If not, the receiver could accept that draw risk free. Gene Milener
http://CastleLong.com/
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| May-12-06 | | capatal: http://www.rightmove06.org/index.ph... <BishopBerkeley>
Thank you for the concise answer on the Fischer question.
Here is Yasser Seirawan's Open Letter to All National Chess Federations
(which us Chess lovers from all nations might find a must read. |
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| May-25-06 | | DutchDunce: I was thinking of a variant where each side plays a Fischerandom setup, but not necessarily the same one on each side (i.e. you set up each side independently). Does this variant have a formal name? I imagine allowing the second player to choose sides would be essential, along with the option to demand a re-shuffle. Or are there just too many setups that wouldn't work? I bet some would be dead lost from the get-go. |
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| May-30-06 | | Isolated Pawn: < DutchDunce: I was thinking of a variant where each side plays a Fischerandom setup, but not necessarily the same one on each side (i.e. you set up each side independently). Does this variant have a formal name? I imagine allowing the second player to choose sides would be essential, along with the option to demand a re-shuffle. Or are there just too many setups that wouldn't work? I bet some would be dead lost from the get-go.> I don't know of any official variants, but I suggest you play it with a friend and see how it works out. I had an idea for a form of chess where each player sets their own side up without knowledge of their opponents setup, sort of like Feudal or Stratego. You can place any piece (even pawns) anywhere you want in the first 3 rows of your side. It was pretty fun. |
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| Jun-05-06 | | DeepBlade: [White "DeepBlade"]
[Black "NN"]
[BlackElo "1586"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Event "InstantChess"]
[SetUp "1"]
click for larger view1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 <until now I wasnt aware it was a FRC game!> 3.e5
Bg5 4.c4 Nc6 5.Nc3 Nxe5 6.d4
Nxc4 7.d5 Nxb2 8.Nb3 Nxd1
9.Rxd1 d6 10.h4 Bf6 11.Ne4 Be5
12.Bf2 Bb5+ 13.Ke1 Ne7 14.Rh3
O-O-O 15.Bxa7 Kd7 16.Na5 b6
17.Nb7 Ra8 18.Bxb6 cxb6 19.Qxb6
Bc6 20.Nec5+ dxc5 21.dxc6+
Ke8 22.Rd8+ Rxd8 23.Qxd8# 1-0 |
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Jul-15-06
 | | nasmichael: <Isolated Pawn> and <<Dutch Dunce>>: The games you mentioned with different backfile setups for white and black is called Free Programme Chess in D. Pritchard's Popular Chess Variants , part of general pool of "Shuffle Chess". It can be fun. Transcendental Chess, which requires 2 different backfile setups, with the understanding that the players will play a couplet of 2 games, one with each color, to allay any fears of unfair advantage for either side. A win and a draw for one player would win the couplet. If each side wins one game, the couplet is considered a draw. |
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Jul-15-06
| | nasmichael: For <Isolated Pawn>: Look at http://www.bcvs.ukf.net/freep.htm for more information on the game you describe. Some GMs and IMs were playing in the examples given, 46 players, playing strength from 2000--2500. |
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