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Sep-09-07 | | Kriegspiel: I mentioned a while back that Silman's "The Amateur's Mind" looked like a worthwhile read, and having finally had the opportunity (I'm about 1/3 of the way through), and finding it immensely useful, I came here to read the Silman pages. In doing so I was bemused by some of the straw-man arguments pretending to attack Silman's books or the philosophy of chess behind them, or at least the applicability of these to players rated below Class A. Many of these misplaced critical comments castigate Silman for supposedly ignoring the importance of tactics and for advocating vague positional rules at the expense of concrete calculation. Nothing could be further from the truth! Silman repeatedly makes comments such as these (in the context of position-specific illustrations): * * * "Playing for a tactical shot is fine if you can force it. If not, take your time, keep your eyes on the tactics, get the rest of your army into battle, and pay lots of attention to the positional features on the board! You're never going to go anywhere if you can't blend positional and tactical considerations together." * * * "[The student is] Finally mentioning his center, but not going any deeper into the position... instead of taking a long think and becoming master of this particular situation, he sits back, flicks out a developing move and hopes that positive things will just happen." * * * "White is still playing without any kind of plan. He is not reasoning things out and he is not analyzing any variations. This type of 'move by move' existence is often employed by players from the beginning level right up to the revered ranking of master. No matter what your rating may be, it is the wrong way to play chess!" What *I* see Silman saying is that tactics can be defined as how you carry out your plans; that good plans are based on an accurate assessment of the position (supported by accurate calculation); that by patiently improving your position you can develop tactical opportunities and carry them out in a way that does not leave you vulnerable to counterplay after you have won your pawn (or what-not), while simultaneously denying tactical opportunities to your opponent; that you should assume your opponent will see your threats, only playing threat-moves if they improve your position no matter how your opponent replies. In reading about the erroneous thinking of his students (from 900 up through 2000) I see a lot of my own errors popping up, and in examining these I find myself able to appreciate the insights Silman offers. (It's also reassuring to see these players, some of them higher rated than I am, doing this stuff.) The problems these players experience stem from their misreading of the position, hence the emphasis of the book: learning how to read the chessboard. That's what positional play means. Comments such as "chess is 99 percent tactics" seem to ignore the fact that in identifying a weakness and coordinating your pieces to take advantage of it (or more broadly, identifying differences in the assets and deficits of each side and then developing a plan to manipulate these to your advantage), you ARE playing positional chess; tactics are simply the details you employ to carry out this strategy. Very, very important, true, but not 99 percent of chess. Annotated Master-level games alone don't explore moves that amateurs might have made instead, and how one might respond to them, and why they might be wrong. Silman often starts off annotating a Master game and then has students of various rating levels play the game beginning at some critical point of the game (with Silman playing the opponent), having them explain their moves as they go along (while Silman analyzes their reasoning in the text). (continued)
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Sep-09-07 | | Kriegspiel: (continued)
Nor does Silman ignore tactical sacrifices or encourage his students (or readers) to do so. In fact, the text points out a number of concrete instances where his students fail to calculate properly, ignoring such tactical threats because they are pursuing their own plans without taking into account the possible plans of their opponents. Of course, all these skills take time and experience to acquire, but if one is aware of their importance and is actively attempting to develop them, one is on the right path so far as it goes. As for Silman supposedly ignoring openings, "How to play the openings" rates a chapter in the book. Of course, in that chapter he is illustrating the elements of positional play (and very flexibly, not dogmatically adhering to classical chess rules), not teaching specific openings: to learn an opening, study an opening monograph. I really like the way Silman repeates key points, both in hammering home a point and in illustrating that point concretely. I'd come across some of these same points in other chess books but for some reason I seem better able to absorb them from Silman's book (The Amateur's Mind). Of course, you have to be willing to actually apply these lessons. The entire first chapter of the book was on knights vs. bishops. If you are a little annoyed with this and think, my goodness, that's a bit pedantic and perhaps even precious, then you won't get anything from it. Silman thinks it's such an important (and underrated) subject that he gives it front billing, as it were. But you may just find yourself realizing how many middlegames you've misplayed because you didn't deny your opponent forward positions of support for his knights, or failed to open a position up to permit your bishop pair to become effective (or opened it up to the advantage of your bishop-owning opponent and to the detriment of your knights), or traded a knight for a bishop (or vice-versa) when the nature of the position dictated the superiority of the piece you traded away. I might also add that in my quest to improve my game I've switched to correspondence chess. This encourages deeper evaluation by giving you extra time and the ability to apply yourself to the game when it is convenient to do so. OTB players might object that this doesn't develop speed, but speed will come as a result of experience and knowledge over time. If you are able to correctly assess a position because you have seen it before or because you have trained yourself in good analytical habits, presumably you will be faster in the application of those habits than you would if your mind were creaking along without a clue. I would rather learn to be a good chess player and have speed develop as an epiphenomenon of this, than seek speed for its own sake and at the expense of good play. And frankly, I find the game more interesting when one has the time to savor it. Another advantage of correspondence chess is that it allows you to spend more time on openings, using game databases (but not chess engines) to do so. I firmly believe that openings are very important, because they determine whether you get a nice middlegame or not, and in turn that may strongly influence the endgame or game result. I also think that unless you are a real whiz you should concentrate on a few openings (say, one as White and two as Black, if possible), staying flexible but at least shooting for that, so that you have a chance to get to know those openings, learn how to play them to your advantage, and learn what kind of middlegames they often lead to -- this in turn giving you some sense of middlegame strategy emerging from the opening. I should perhaps point out that these opinions on correspondence chess and openings are my own, not Silman's (so far as I know). |
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Sep-10-07 | | Kriegspiel: <chancho: Jeremy Silman can be quite funny when he recounts his life experiences. I remember he wrote of a tournament he was playing in abroad. He was trying to get a norm for the Grandmaster title, (He failed to get the norm)and was having a miserable time trying to win a game. The other players then started calling him "Little Amos", comparing him to Amos Burn. Who(He said) played in a placid style.> Seems a little odd. There are a number of players who tend strongly toward the positional style and many of them are strong players, yet nobody seems to have attached vaguely insulting epithets to them. (Though there were some complaints, I think during Petrosian's reign, that he was too drawish.) <Another incident was when he was playing Pal Benko in a series of blitz games. After the games were played, Benko looked at Silman in shock, and said that Silman was the most boring chess player he had ever encountered!This statement convinced Silman to thus retire from competitive play.> Silman must have been doing something right to get to 2385. I'm curious to know what the score was in these games with Benko. If Benko was getting squeezed and unable to make use of his usual methods, he might have made such a remark in frustration, though it would be unjustified and unconscionably rude. |
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Sep-10-07 | | Kriegspiel: P.S. According to Wikipedia, Petrosian's "patient, defensive style frustrated Botvinnik, who only needed to make one risky move for Petrosian to punish him." Obviously Petrosian was in a different class than IM Silman but I wonder if the analogy extends far enough to apply to the blitz games with Benko. |
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Sep-10-07 | | Kriegspiel: Some Silman quotes from "The Amateur's Mind" which demonstrate that for all of his (entirely appropriate) emphasis on solidity and prophylaxis, he isn't advocating passive play: * * * "[Merely] Defending and following the basic rules... is simply not good enough! You must come up with creative ideas that challenge your opponent! Putting your arms up, closing your eyes and fending off blows isn't going to get the job done." * * * "Don't just react to the opponent's threats. At times, defensive moves are called for. However, if you find that you have lost track of your own plans and are just reacting to your opponents' blows, you must realize that you are on the road to defeat. Chess is a game where the opponent tries to impose his will on yours. He wants you to do what he tells you to do. Fight like a madman and refuse to go along with his agenda!" At the same time, however, he very rightly points out that: * * * "Patience is a real virtue in chess. If your opponent has little or no counterplay, then why should you force the issue [where no forcing line is confirmed by calculation]? It is much better to take your time and add a host of little advantages to the plusses you already possess." Finally, to a few misguided individuals who, when posting comments to Silman's games here at chessgames.com, instead of making constructive comments, post remarks such as "The thinking player beaten by simple tactics!", and similar inane remarks: First, did you expect Silman, unlike any other player in the database, to play every game perfectly and never lose, and never overlook any tactic? Second, make sure it really is tactics. Are you merely attempting to score a point of dogma (in the naive and misleading tactics vs. strategy argument -- as if the two are mutually exclusive!), or do you really understand what is going on? |
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Sep-14-07 | | Kriegspiel: Thank you Jeremy Silman!
I just won a game I am quite proud of. I call it my "Silman Game" because I was inspired to play it the way I did after reading The Amateur's Mind (I'm about 1/3 of the way through). Even though it may be flawed, I played with a plan and as a result played much better than I would have without a plan. This was a correspondence chess game and note that even though Black's opening struck me as a bit weak, that in the Chessbase database through the fourth move, with White and Black both ELO rated at 2400+, of the 46 games responsive to such a search, Black wins 17 and White wins 11 -- so it may have something going for it. Seeing the way things were going in the database and deciding that I needed to start playing principled chess of my own devising, even though it might mean leaving the database, I was examining candidate moves for my fifth move and started trying to read the board according to what I had been reading in The Amateur's Mind. I noticed that as White I had a queenside space advantage and that Black's pieces were cramped. My interpretation of Silman was that I should attempt to increase my control of queenside space while keeping the Black pieces bottled up and avoiding unnecessary exchanges; also that play could only proceed in the wing when the center was stable, so I had to simultaneously attempt to stabilize the center. There is one game in the Chessbase database (not Master level) that continues 5.Qa4 c6 but after that White develops in a different way than I do and ends up losing. I attempted to make every move count toward the pursuit of the aforementioned (e.g., 6.b4 to keep the knight out of c5, intending d5 followed by e4). Also per Silman, I attempted to gradually but consistently improve my position while restricting Black counterplay, avoiding making threats unless in so doing my position was improved regardless of Black's response (at least, according to my own amateur perceptions). I'm not sure about 16.g4, but at the time I made the move it seemed consistent with my goals while not unduly risky. Subsequently I wondered if Black might have made more out of it. Both players were rated in the 1600s.
1. c4 d6 2. Ng1f3 Nb8d7 3. d4 Ng8f6 4. Nb1c3 e5 5. Qd1a4 c6 6. b4 Bf8e7
7. d5 Nd7b6 8. Qa4b3 cxd5 9. cxd5 Bc8f5 10. Nf3d2 O-O 11. e4 Bf5g6
12. Bf1e2 Ra8c8 13. Bc1b2 Nb6d7 14.O-O a5 15. a3 Nf6e8 16. g4 Be7g5
17. Nd2c4 axb4 18. axb4 h6 19. Nc4a5 Qd8c7 20. Ra1a3 Qc7b6 21. Bb2c1 Ne8f6 22. Na5c4 Qb6d8 23. Bc1xg5 hxg5 24. f3 Nd7b6 25. Nc4a5 Rc8xc3
26. Qb3xc3 Nb6xd5 27. exd5 Nf6xd5 28. Qc3d2 Qd8b6 29. Kg1h1 Nd5f4 30. Na5c4 Qb6b5 31. Ra3a5 Qb5c6 32. Rf1c1 Rf8c8 33. Ra5a1 Nf4xe2 34. Qd2xe2 b5 35. Nc4e3 Qc6b7 36. Rc1xc8 Qb7xc8 37. Ne3d5 Qc8b7 38. Qe2a2 Kg8h7 39. Qa2a8 Qb7d7 40. Ra1a7 Qd7e6 41. Ra7e7 Bg6e4 42. Re7xe6 Be4xf3 43. Kh1g1 fxe6 44. Nd5f6 gxf6 45. Qa8xf3 Kh7g7 46. Qf3c6 d5 47. Qc6xe6 d4 48. Qe6d5 Kg7g6 49. Qd5xb5 1-0 |
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Sep-14-07 | | boz: Nice post <Kriegspiel>. That's what chess is all about. |
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Sep-16-07 | | Kriegspiel: Thank you <boz>.
I showed that game to some whippersnapper playing at or below my own level, telling him that managing to gradually improve my own position while denying a strong opponent all counterplay is my idea of masterful chess, and he had the audacity to call it "boring". But isn't this the norm during a game, unless one's opponent makes a mistake one can take advantage of tactically? What is the alternative? Ill-timed, speculative "activity" which allows one's opponent critical opportunities, while you both engage in an unpredictable (or poorly calculated) race to see who gets lucky first? I think Silman was right when he wrote that many amateurs seem uncomfortable with the idea of a patient, developing middlegame, and that they seem to think that unless they are making direct threats (whether the position calls for this or not) they are playing ineffectually. This has long been an error of mine and now I am attempting to address it. Of course, it takes time to learn how to read a board and how to play well, but this is the correct road and already I see significant improvement. |
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Oct-03-07 | | Brettwith2ts: <Kriegspiel> based largely on your testimonial, I've invested five dollars in a used copy of The Amateur's Mind. I hope you are right. |
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Oct-05-07 | | Kriegspiel: < Brettwith2ts> Money well spent. (My second-hand copy was obtained for trade-credit alone, by the way.) I trust you have the revised/expanded second edition. That may be critical, since Silman made a point not merely of correcting any typos that may have slipped through, but of simplifying the language in a number of places to make it clearer to the ordinary reader, and otherwise tuning it up based on reader feedback and so forth, as well as adding a large test section in the back. Right now I have reached the chapter dealing with Development and the Initiative. It is quite interesting how different Silman might seem to some readers only acquainted with his earlier chapters, since he lavishes uncharacteristic praise on an 800 rated player who manages a marvelous attack. The difference is that the position calls for an attack. That is what the chapter in question is all about: how to exploit a lead in development with vigorous and creative attacks. I may post some additional brief quotes from it just to show what a balanced teacher Silman really is. |
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Oct-06-07 | | Brettwith2ts: <Kriegspiel> Yes, it's the second ed. Coincidentally, I already have his book "The Complete Endgame Course," which I recommend for endgame study. Unlike normal chess books, which teach a specific position in all its depth, then move on to the next, his book teaches a player what he needs to know for his rating level. p.s. I like his books, in case you can't tell. |
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Oct-06-07 | | Kriegspiel: I have a question about a tactical line offered by Silman (as an aside) in an analysis of one of his student's games. (The student, rated 1300, was given a position from a game between much lower rated players, to see if (and how) how he would exploit his lead in development.) The original position came from: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.Bb5 Nd4 5.o-o Nxb5 6.Nxb5 d6 7.d4 b6? 8.Bf4? Ba6? The game, with 1300 as White and Silman filling in as Black, continued: 9.Qd3 cxd4 10.Nfxd4 e5
and after some additional commentary, Silman writes: "As it turns out, White had the strong 11.Qc4, threatening both 12.Qc6+ and 12.Nc7+. Then 11...Rc8 is met by 12.Qa4! However, it's impossible to find a game-saving shot if you don't look for it!" -- The Amateur's Mind (2nd ed.), p.182. My question is, after 11.Qc4 Bxb5 what is the assessment of White's position? I'd be interested in analysis from some strong chess engines, among other things. |
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Jan-09-08 | | pawnofdoom: <<Kriegspiel> My question is, after 11.Qc4 Bxb5 what is the assessment of White's position? I'd be interested in analysis from some strong chess engines, among other things.> I had some extra time so I ran that line on Fritz. As a matter of fact, for black, Fritz likes 11. ... ♗xb5 more than 11. ... ♖c8
<after 11. ... ♗xb5>
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1. ± (1.06): 12.♘xb5 ♖c8 13.♕a4 ♕d7 14.♗g5 h6 15.♗h4 g5 16.♗g3 f5 17.exf5 a6 18.♕xa6 ♖xc2 2. = (-0.06): 12.♕xb5+ ♕d7 13.♕d5 ♖d8 14.♗g5 ♗e7 15.♘f3 ♗xg5 16.♘xg5 ♘f6 17.♕c4 h6 18.♘f3 d5 19.exd5 |
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Jan-09-08 | | pawnofdoom: And after 12. ♘xb5 here is some more analysis:
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Analysis by Fritz 8:
1. ± (1.09): 12...Rc8 13.Qa4 Qd7 14.Bg5 h6 15.Bh4 f5 16.exf5 Rc5 17.c4 d5 18.Rfe1 Qxf5 2. ± (1.19): 12...exf4 13.Qc6+ Ke7 14.Nxd6 Qxd6 15.Qxa8 Qc7 16.e5 f6 17.e6 f5 18.Rfe1 Nf6 19.Qf3 Qxc2 3. (1.69): 12...Rb8 13.Nc7+ Kd7 14.Na6 exf4 15.Nxb8+ Qxb8 16.Qxf7+ Ne7 17.a4 Kc6 4. (2.53): 12...Qc8 13.Nc7+ Kd7 14.Qxf7+ Ne7 15.Nxa8 exf4 16.Nxb6+ axb6 17.Qxf4 Qxc2 18.Rad1 Qxb2 19.Qxd6+ 5. (2.72): 12...Be7 13.Nc7+ Kf8 14.Nxa8 Qxa8 15.Bd2 Nf6 16.Rfe1 d5 17.exd5 Qxd5 18.Qc8+ Qd8 19.Qxd8+ Bxd8 20.Rxe5 |
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Jan-29-08 | | pazzed paun: does anyone kknow what Silman has been doing lately his website has not been updated in a while? |
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Feb-29-08
 | | James Demery: Good question pazzed paun. HEY SILMAN PUT DOWN YOUR PIPE AND UPDATE YOUR SITE! |
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Mar-02-08 | | whiskeyrebel: There were several updates there in Feb actually. Hey, Silman's endgame manual won book of the year at the chesscafe.com site. Congrats. |
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Mar-04-08
 | | James Demery: Did you make it through Silman`s endgame book whiskeyrebel? I have it too , but haven`t looked at it in a while. Of course I`m rated much lower than you. |
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Mar-04-08 | | MaxxLange: I like Silman, and I like that endgame book.
He answered my email very nicely a couple of years ago (I pointed out to him a silly thing that Chessbase wrote about his "system" or what) |
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Mar-04-08 | | MaxxLange: Come to think of it, I have been blessed with GM emails two times (GM Seirawen and
GM Tony Miles both sent me nice emails back in the day over this or that) |
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Mar-04-08 | | whiskeyrebel: James Demery, I've learned the material up through the section for experts and still have the master material to completely grasp. I skipped ahead and read the sections "for pleasure". One thing is for sure, I really look forward to reaching certain endgames now and suspect guys in the 2000-2200 range blunder more frequently in this phase of the game than any other. Maybe it just seems so based on my last year of games and observations. |
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Jun-06-08 | | wallytherhino: His books have helped out my chessgame tremendously. There are alot amateurs that have Silman to thank for helping them elevate their skills. Does Silman have a beef Finegold? |
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Jun-06-08 | | Zenchess: I learned a lot from Silman as well. I had the pleasure of meeting him in LA a few years back, and after every round, we would lay out our scoresheets and he would pick the best ones and analyze them. He looked at one of my games, and it gave me a lot of confidence in playing the White side of the Classical French; I used to play awful on the White side and screw up one game after another; now, I can win even against strong opponents with it. It was a crazy game where I castled Queen side and he got his Knight on b2 supported by an a3 pawn; I thought I was losing, but nobody could find a way for Black to break through afterwards. Finally, after both of us groped in the dark for a while, I broke through on the f-file and won the game. |
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Jun-06-08
 | | James Demery: I thought from the comment he made that it was Finegold that had the beef. I`m not sure what it is about Silman`s teaching that makes him think one need a lobotomy afterward. |
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Jun-07-08
 | | BishopBerkeley: From Jeremy Silman's FAQ webpage:
http://www.jeremysilman.com/faq.html
[Not in the order they occur on the webpage]:
[Question]: What is the best order to read your books? The answer depends on your strength. However, let’s say you are 1800 or below. In that case: Read HOW TO REASSESS YOUR CHESS through page 28.
Next: Read all of THE AMATEUR’S MIND.
Next: Go back to HOW TO REASSESS YOUR CHESS and read it all. Next: Read all of THE REASSESS YOUR CHESS WORKBOOK.
Take note: THE COMPLETE BOOK OF CHESS STRATEGY is not a book to be read cover to cover. It’s a reference work. Thus, if you have a question about isolated pawns, go to that section and it will give you a quick, easy to understand explanation. If you want to learn about mating patterns, go to that section and you will be given the keys to the universe. You can use this book whenever any chess question comes up and it will give you all the basic information you need in 2-4 pages. [Question]: What attracted you to a chess career?
The money and the women.
[Question]: Who do you think are the top 10 players in history? 1) Fischer, 2) Kasparov, 3) Karpov, 4) Lasker, 5) Alekhine, 6) Capablanca, 7) Steinitz, 8) Botvinnik, 9) Tal, 10) Petrosian. [Question]: When did you learn to play chess?
I learned how to move the pieces at the ripe old age of 12. I played in my first tournament two months later and walked away with a 1068 rating. I should add that I was overrated, since my one victory came from a man that actually grabbed my Rook and mated himself. He wanted the game to end so he could make an appointment! My real strength after my first event was around 900. [Question]: How fast was your progress?
I became class a "B" player when I hit 14 (1670), was "A" class at 15 (1900) and reached mid-expert strength (2100) by the time I was 16. [Question]: When did you become a master?
I moved to San Francisco when I was 19 (from San Diego) and instantly earned a master ranking, tying for first with U.S. Champion John Grefe (and drawing our individual game) in my first SF event. [Question]: Why didn’t you ever get the grandmaster title? Getting the title calls for a tremendous amount of talent, or a tremendous amount of work. I don’t have the talent to pick the title out of thin air, so complete devotion to chess would be the only way to accomplish this task. The usual way that guys like me get the grandmaster title is to play in several round robin (gm-norm) European events a year. You might bomb in four or five in a row, but eventually the stars will be in alignment and a norm will come your way. Then you repeat the process again and again until you obtain the required three norms. Unfortunately, I have interests outside of chess and am not willing to put in the necessary energy to accomplish this goal. In fact, it’s hard to get me out of my house! Having me fly to Europe over and over just isn’t going to happen. =====
Quite interesting!
(: ♗ Bishop Berkeley ♗ :)
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