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| Nov-02-04 | | BradMajors: i wonder when chessbase will release the photo of the spanish police men. |
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| Nov-02-04 | | acirce: Maybe they would if there were any. |
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Nov-02-04
 | | cu8sfan: <aw1988> Nothing wrong with coffee but too much caffeine counts as an illegal drug in sports and many chess players including me drink a lot of coffee. |
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| Nov-02-04 | | aw1988: <BradMajors: i wonder when chessbase will release the photo of the spanish police men.> No, they're too busy talking about the amazing twin tower sacrifice. <cu8sfan> Ok. |
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| Nov-02-04 | | yoozum: about drug testing...i do not believe drugs make you play better, but in my experience, alcohol does. i usually play with two of my friends who are roughly equal in playing ability to myself. one slightly better, the other slightly worse. recently, when i was pretty buzzed i was able to easily defeat my completely sober and more skilled friend at 10 minute rapid/blitz. the other times i've played him semi-drunk i've either drawn or won...never lost. one may say that this is just because of luck, or whatever, but i think that up to a certain point, alcohol helps, but after that, it ultimately screws you over. |
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| Nov-02-04 | | WMD: <recently, when i was pretty buzzed i was able to easily defeat my completely sober and more skilled friend at 10 minute rapid/blitz. the other times i've played him semi-drunk i've either drawn or won...never lost.> Alcohol is a depressant, of course, which slows down the nervous system. Perhaps, in your case, the less you think the better you play. |
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| Nov-02-04 | | yoozum: WMD, what you're saying is definitely true which is why i'm certainly a bit perplexed why this works. it very well could entirely be based on luck. however...
after i have a few i become more relaxed, agressive on the board, and more, dare i say, creative. these may very well over-compensate for the calculations that you won't be able too well when you're inebriated. also, when your friend knows he's playing someone who's semi-drunk, he may let his guard down or underestimate you, thinking that you'll just play horribly. the obvious truth is that eventually, the more you drink, the worse you will play. that's undeniable. also, please keep in mind that this was rapid/blitz. in OTB or in classical control chess, i would have been promptly crushed. |
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Nov-02-04
 | | IMlday: <yoozum> Over and over vodka trumped caffeine over the board.
This is the [expletive deleted] big secret: 'Relaxed and loose' which beats 'uptight and too-closely-wound'. So it riverrunly goes.. |
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| Nov-03-04 | | acirce: <The unrepentant attitude of the organizers and Spanish federation is the worst of it. Instead of apologizing for what was bad policy to start and a dangerous overreaction by security, they act as though having an unarmed man beaten to the ground on the stage of a chess event was perfectly normal. Azmaiparashvili has some thuggish qualities that have manifested at various times in public and private. There had been friction between him and the organization at several points in Calvia already. I don't doubt he tried to step by security to get to the stage. But this is really beside the point. The Olympiad is a FIDE event and if the FIDE VP wants to get on the stage and perform a naked tap-dance, well, cover the eyes of the kids and stand back. Okay, maybe not, but clearly the organizers have gone power mad when they have crack security police bludgeoning chess politicians.> http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt/ |
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| Nov-03-04 | | acirce: Paul Truong tells us more of what he saw, same URL as above. Also a little discussion back and forth. So far his is the only direct witness account I've seen, but I understand that there are more of them to be gathered together. <I have never met Azmai until Calvia. We nodded hello to each other a few times over the two weeks. I have no reason to put my neck on the line to defend Azmai unless I saw something very bad took place.The organizer was clearly at fault. They were told that they forgot to award a few major awards: The best male and female performance and the explanation of the Gaprindashvili award. They could have fixed it in the last 30 minutes by saying something like we saved the best for last. Instead, they refused to correct their horrible mistakes. This was not the only police incidents there. There were at least a dozen or so other minor incidents during the time I was there. On the same night of the Azmai incident, two police came to my hotel and beat the heck out of defenseless drunk in the lobby. The guy could not even get up and they had no problem using their sticks to beat him on his leg, his arms, his back and his head. This was in front of many of us. Azmai was definitely upset and vocal. But that is a far cry from beating up a police officer. Yes, he did try to go toward the stage. But if the guard just gives him another 10 seconds, Kirsan would have come to him to find out what he had to say. The next morning, Shirov came to me and said that he had many problems with Azmai in the past but he also agreed that Azmai did not do anything wrong this time. The only people who felt differently were the Spanish police and organizer. This was a sad ending to a historic event with Ukraine and USA making history.> |
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| Nov-03-04 | | azaris: <"I was not the only witness. There were many more who gave full testimony to the police. What happened was an "accident". As he went forward and they pushed him backward, contact occured. I believe the injury on the top of his head was caused by that accidental contact. The top of his head hit one of the police in the mouth. His black eye was caused after by the police later." --Paul Truong> Along with this and the report of police violence earlier during the event, I'm starting to think the official story about what happened is a load of rubbish. Notice also that the mark on Zurab's head is quite high, well above the temple. Usually when headbutting someone you use your forehead, not the top of your head (what is he, an elk?). |
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| Nov-03-04 | | WMD: <Azmai was definitely upset and vocal. But that is a far cry from beating up a police officer. Yes, he did try to go toward the stage. But if the guard just gives him another 10 seconds, Kirsan would have come to him to find out what he had to say.> But the crucial question is, did Azmai initiate the violence by clashing heads with one of the guards? |
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| Nov-03-04 | | yoozum: props to him for using the uncommon head attack as opposed to going for the overplayed fist attack. |
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Nov-04-04
 | | ray keene: azmais side of the story is available now on chessbase website-todays lead story |
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| Nov-04-04 | | PinkPanther: Now I really don't like Spain. If you didn't know any better you'd think the Arabs/Muslims were still there and running the show. |
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Nov-04-04
| | cu8sfan: <PinkPanther> As if American cops wouldn't be the same... (Still there's no apology to police violence) |
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| Nov-04-04 | | acirce: Horrifying reading. Without knowing with absolute certainty that he's not just making everything up, I tend to believe him. Police brutality in general isn't a figment of someone's imagination. <Free at last: talking to hs friend Garry Kasparov, who offered him full support> Move-rectractors unite! ;-) |
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| Nov-04-04 | | WMD: They punched him 9 or 10 times in one eye and all he has is a shiner? |
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| Nov-04-04 | | MoonlitKnight: <azaris> has a good point. That scar on his head does not look like the result of a headbutt at all. Azmai may be using a broad pen to paint the picture here, but I still know enough about the police there to say that the methods they use are often in violation with human rights. Azmai is known as a bully, and I don't doubt a second that he told the security guards exactly what he felt about the situation, but nothing can of course excuse the use of excessive force. Too bad he doesn't live in a more resourceful country, or Spain's international honour would be in jeopardy. |
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| Nov-04-04 | | PinkPanther: <cu8sfan>
There was no "violence" on Azmai's part. And no, American cops aren't brutal like that. They don't repeatedly punch you in the eye, or stand on you on the way to the police station. |
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| Nov-04-04 | | Phoenix: I have absolutely no reason to defend Azmai, as I think he's a jerk and hard to get along with, but even if he is doctoring up his story there's no excuse for Spain's police behavior. I thought this kind of police brutality thing only happened here in America, but it sounds really bad in parts (or all) of Europe. That's all cops are anymore, just a bunch of brainless thugs with guns... so much for the "public servants" they used to be. |
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Nov-04-04
| | cu8sfan: <American cops aren't brutal like that> So what happened to Rodney King? And that Jamaican guy in New York? Unnecessary Police brutality is terrible and can happen anywhere. It has nothing to do with <Arabs/Muslims ... running the show>. That quote may be very close to violating posting guideline #1. |
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| Nov-04-04 | | PinkPanther: <cu8sfan>
Dude, you're Swiss, you know nothing about the Rodney King thing, if you actually delve into the actual information, you'll realize why that happened. Also, I'm not familiar with any Jamaican guy in New York. Please, tell me what happened. And no, lastly, what I said isn't racist. Arab countries are known for abusing human rights, it's a fact, not racism. See Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Turkey and the list goes on. |
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| Nov-04-04 | | square dance: one thing people need to realize about the police is that they are human beings. it doesnt matter if they are from the usa or spain, or anywhere else. |
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| Nov-04-04 | | acirce: It's funny how 3 of those 4 countries are NOT Arab countries, although Muslim. |
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