Atheism is a sham, a complete sham. It's a con job. There are simply no good reasons to believe that atheism is true.

Atheism: "God does not exist"

But when a theist comes along and stands up to them, they suddenly "Have no interest in changing your mind" and they, "Frankly don't care if I'm a theist" and they, "are very, very, very busy now" and they, "won't waste their time debating an ignoramus" and so forth.

Of course they had all the time and inclination to do those very things when a weak, timid, uninformed theist was there for the bullying.

So when you stand up to atheists they always back down. Then they go on face saving mission in order to salvage what they have left of their egos. Pathetic cowards!

Then you have these fake Christians that come along and say, "I'm a Christian" but they refuse to give up their foolish pseudo-intellectualism, which is all based on pride. It's nothing but pure ego. Christians who are scared to be cast out from their former circles of friends, colleagues and acquaintances. These Christians refuse to give up their foolish thoughts, because that would be to admit their reasoning was wrong and they don't want to do that.

We saw that <you rang> is something like this kind of Christian. He is completely unfamiliar with the enormous body of work that is known as Natural Theology but is sure that all the arguments are no good. Then, after an hour's reading, he comes back with dismissive generalities and has the pride and ego to think he has penetrated the depths of the arguments.

Pure ego.

A fool is never convinced by reasoning, logic and truth.

<you rang> had told me that he was sure he wouldn't be convinced by any arguments I could bring forth.

I believe him.

<Big Pawn> <I'm dominating this page.>

I check the page out every day and I have to agree with you. I love how you rub their hypocrite faces in the mud that they vomit out of their lying mouths.

You can actually bore me on two different pages!!

In my tribe, we would call you "Powerful Ponytail."

<Jim: You morons>

More tolerance from the left. Very nice <jim>.

It reminds me of this old Andrew Dice Clay line where he says: "So I can't take it anymore. I went to see a psychotherapist. I went in and he asked me what my problem was. I told him, 'Doc, I'm having a hard time making friends...you c%$ksucker'

Jim, the reason you rarely win any debates (but you have lately against <mort>) is because you get too emotional, which causes you to get hasty and blunder.

So. Haven't you seen Hillary whining?

Or Bernie?

Or Cruz?

Or... (Enter any other candidate's name)?

All "winners". All whiners.

I'm just asking that you show some evidence for your claim. You say something but don't back it up.

And by the way, I didn't ask for "videos." I asked for "evidence."

This alpha male thing has really gotten inside your head.

This is the level of discourse we can expect from <Jim Bartle> and the left in general.

Angry, unhinged, intolerant and hateful. Do you always get this mad when people don't agree with you?

This is representative of the level of discourse we've come to expect from the left on the <Rogoff> page.

I try my best to talk about moral ontology, moral epistemology, metaphysics, theism vs atheism, world views and how we justify them, logic, and quotes from other posters.

They come back with the above examples of hatred and intolerance.

Point.

By the way, this is why <diceman> is spot on in the way that he characterizes the left as hateful, stepping on the black man's throat and all that. There is real intolerance and hate on the left.

With that level of thinking you'd get hammered in court.

Yes, videos are evidence.

However all evidence is not videos.

My standards don't include calling your opinions "idiotic" or refer to you as a moron. Did they?

<Jim> You might have missed this:

<TheFocus: <Big Pawn> That is why <Ponytail> resorts to insults. Once they do that, you have won. Every time.

They wear their insults and hatred and intolerance like a badge of honor.>