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Oct-03-09  crawfb5: IF YOU MEET THE BUDDHA ACROSS THE BOARD, CRUSH HIM

These are my 999th and 1,000th posts to CG. That's about 900 more than I ever thought I'd make, but that's neither here nor there. Recent discussions on improvement got me to thinking again about this book I read a few years ago:

AUTHOR [Yermolinsky, Alex]
TITLE [The Road to Chess Improvement]
PUBLISHER [Gambit Publications, 2000]
LEVEL [intermediate/advanced]

In a world where teenage grandmasters are common (Anand quipped, “If you're not a GM by 14, forget it!”), there is something different about a player who doesn't reach the title until his 30s (Yermolinsky was born 1958, and became a GM in 1992). In fact, his lack of improvement was what finally got him to seriously apply himself to the single piece of advice most often given and least often followed: <study your own games>. Yermolinsky was 28 years old and had been playing for 20 years before he really began to do this systematically.

Overall, <Road> is something of a hybrid book. Yermolinsky's introduction calls it a collection of his games, but it is far from a typical “best games” collection. He is quite willing to include his losses to illustrate various points. It is not a “pure” instructional book either. Despite the title, Yermolinsky does not have a “system” to improvement, rather he talks about his successes, failures, and false starts on his own road.

Yermolinsky has no interest in writing a standard educational text aimed at beginners. Those books are fine as far as they go, but where do you go when you're well past a beginner but far from mastery? In reflecting on his own experience growing up in the USSR, Yermolinsky writes:

<Many things have been said about the Soviet School of Chess and how it produced legions of good players due to the elaborate system of chess education. I tell you what, the picture in the western eyes is distorted. There was no building bearing the sign, “The Soviet School of Chess.” There were no secret methods of teaching, no 800 numbers with grandmasters standing by to give you chess advice 24 hours a day. “I would have been a much better player if I had been born in the Soviet Union,” is what I often hear from underachieving chessplayers, and I wonder what makes them think so. In my 30 years of tournament experience, I have seen a lot of bad players, and most of them lived in the Soviet Union. With that kind of attitude, those complaining underachievers would still have been bad players even if they had been born in the USSR.>

Beyond a certain level of training and instruction, Yermolinsky says progress was very much a Darwinian struggle for survival where each player was responsible for doing the lion's share of the hard work required for advancement.

<Road> is not an opening book by any measure, but Yermolinsky spends a lot of time on openings, both in specific lines and talking about them in general, probably because opening preparation is so crucial to a working GM.

Yermolinksy says he starts to learn an opening by playing it. He agrees with John Watson that improvement at chess is similar to learning a second language. He thinks you need to “take a plunge... and learn it from the inside.”

<Chess is a hard enough game to present you with a challenge and the last thing we need is to worry about “doing the right thing,” which means following the positional rules that are, in fact, not more than statistical probabilities, distorted by the selection criteria chosen by the authors of chess books.>

After playing the opening some, Yermolinsky begins to backtrack from theory to a position he feels he understands, and then slowly works forward from there. He needs to verify current theory to his own satisfaction:

<...any theoretical recommendations will be taken into account with a certain dash of skepticism, if only because I believe they are based on nothing else but hasty evaluations of someone else's games, often biased by the final result.>

<continued in part II>

Oct-09-09
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  ChessBookForum: benjinathan: <H> Today I bought an old book "Mastering the King's Indian Defence" which has some of the concepts that we have been talking about recently. In this, it is written in an interesting fashion. Rather than the chapters being titled thoings like "the Samisch" or "the Orthodox" they are titled "the Samisch Center" or the "orthodox center".

The chapters are then subdivided into "Strategic Ideas" "Tactical Ideas" "Illustrative Games".

So for example the Samisch Center chapter has as its Strategic Ideas things like: "The kingside attacking plan with the KN on e2" and the "Center Counter f7-f5".

Almost every section has a pawn structure diagram.

I have no idea if it is any good, but it appears to be the kind of book I have been looking for albeit for the KID only.

I will let you know.

Oct-13-09  parisattack: You should enjoy Mastering the King's Indian. Yhe entire Mastering series is excellent and the KID volume is the most popular, sought after.
Oct-13-09  benjinathan: I am enjoying it. It was a good find. Although someone suggested that the "Starting Out KID" was similar (I appologize I forget who), I have that book as well and I think they are very different. From what I have seen (not very much admittedly) the Mastering the KID book is quite novel. <parisattack>:Are the others in the series written in the same way?
Oct-13-09  parisattack: The formats differ slightly on them. And, yes, no comparison at all between the Mastering series and the Starting Out series. The latter are among the worst chess books I have ever seen.
Oct-17-09  whiteshark:

Life being very short, and the quiet hours of it few, we ought to waste none of them in reading valueless books.

-- John Ruskin

Oct-22-09  Pyke: Dear <ChessBookForum>,

lately I am more and more intrigued by the play of <Tigran Vartanovich Petrosian>.

So I wondered I anyone has some favourite books on him, since I am seriously interested in getting one. Preferably one with lots of games and annotations by the Petrosian himself.

At the moment I only have Kasparovs OMGP, part III. It's great of course, but I think that, compared to the other volumes, the part on Petrosian (and Spassky) is somewhat "short".

Thanks,
Pyke

Oct-22-09  crawfb5: <Pyke> This one on Petrosian got positive reviews at Amazon by customers, but it seems to be an older edition that has been reprinted, so it uses descriptive notation rather than algebraic.

Clarke also did a book on Tal, which is also supposed to be good.

http://www.amazon.com/Petrosians-19...

Oct-22-09  Pyke: Hi <crawfb5>,

thank you for the advice. The reviews on the book do certainly look promising.

The bit about descriptive notation doesn't matter at all. After going through Botvinniks "100 Selected Games" (excellent book btw ...) I am quite used to it by now.

Oct-22-09  benjinathan: <Pyke>
http://www.jeremysilman.com/book_re...
Oct-23-09  Pyke: Thanks for the link <benjinathan>!

It would appear that Silman is fond of Clarke's work on Petrosian, too.

So "Petrosian's Best Games Of Chess 1946 - 1963" by Clarke becomes a real option.

Oct-24-09  parisattack: Petrosian Books -

All of them quite good, IMHO, so no particular order:

Petrosian's Games of Chess - Clarke
Petrosian vs the Elite - Keene/Simpole
Petrosian's Legacy - Petrosian
Petrosian the Powerful - Soltis/Smith
Tigran Petrosjan - Weltgeschiche des Schachs, #26

Wade's book on the 1963 match with Botvinnik is very good.

Petrosian was also the (somewhat figurhead) Editor of the Russian periodical '64' for many years. But in the 1960s he did annotate some of his own games in them.

Oct-24-09  Pyke: Thanks for sharing <parisattack>!
Oct-24-09  parisattack: You are welcome. I love his games but not a style I think a patzer such as I can emulate. Sort of 'Kids, don't try this at home!'

Regards Petrosian. Perhaps the dumbest comment ever made by a great player was Fine's to the effect that Petrosian was the weakest world champion!

Oct-24-09  parisattack: I neglected to list O'Kelly's wonderful - Tigran Petrosian: World Chess Champion. It's a Pergamon book, a bit hard to find and the hardback is quite pricey now.

Chess Secrets: The Giants of Strategy by McDonald has some well-annotated Petrosian games and positions.

Oct-25-09  A Karpov Fan: Maybe this is slightly off topice here, in which case I'm sorry, but I wanted to know if anybody had anything to say about the Roman's Lab DVD's 26 and 27?

These are the ones where he explains Nimzo's famous My System with modern updates, they are 2 hours each and about $20.

I have My System but I don't have a happy relationship with it, after many efforts at being reasonable we are no longer on speaking terms. If these DVD's are just as tough I won't waste my money, but if not, could be a valuable purchase :-)

thanks

Oct-27-09
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  FSR: <parisattack> I fully agree with your comment on Fine's inane remark about Petrosian. No doubt he was envious: Petrosian was world champion for six years while Fine simply walked away from the opportunity in 1948. Note that the "weak" Petrosian was the only world champion between 1934 (Alekhine-Bogolyubov) and 1978 (Karpov-Korchnoi) to actually win a match as world champion. As for the weakest world champion - at least prior to the FIDE-only world champions (Khalifman, Kasimdzhanov, Ponamariov) - surely that was the man Fine seconded, Euwe.

Fine's book on the Fischer-Spassky match was terrible. His later challenge to Fischer to play a match for the world championship was, as Saidy wrote, "rather pathetic." http://bit.ly/CZTRp

Oct-27-09  parisattack: <Fine's book on the Fischer-Spassky match was terrible. His later challenge to Fischer to play a match for the world championship was, as Saidy wrote, "rather pathetic.">

Re: Petrosian - totally agree; excellent points.

I thought some of Fine's analysis was astute - but, 1) His memory was poor - I found two instances of 'quoting' old games that was way off, 2) The psychologizing is nuts and 3) Yes, the envy shows!

Oct-28-09
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  FSR: I trust that you have seen that New in Chess is coming out with a new book on Fischer by Karsten Mueller. I just ordered two copies of the numbered hardcover edition through Amazon. Mueller analyzes all the games, although apparently in many of them he only analyzes what he deems "the key position." And he doesn't include the blitz games from Herceg Novi and the Manhattan Chess Club, which strikes me as an unfortunate omission. An "ordinary" GM's blitz games might not be worth analyzing, but Fischer's are another story, I think.
Oct-28-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Petrosian somehow mastered the art of winning by the smallest possible margin. At Curacao, he beat out both Keres and Geller by just half a point. (He did beat Botvinnik decisively, by three points.) He beat Spassky in 1966 by one point. In the 1971 Candidates, he won one game each against both Huebner and Korchnoi, and drew the rest. Someone contrasted his "minimalist" approach (just 2 wins in his 2 Candidates matches before meeting Fischer) with Fischer's "maximalist" approach (12 wins!).
Oct-28-09  parisattack: <FSR: I trust that you have seen that New in Chess is coming out with a new book on Fischer by Karsten Mueller. >

Actually I just ordered it; should be interesting. Given the number of games, pages of the book I assume the annotations are somewhat minimalist, also...

Oct-28-09  Pyke: Hmm, so <Karsten Mueller> is in charge? Seems interesting!

Although he's considered somewhat dry, he is, in my opinion, a very capable anaylst (in particular concerning endgames).

But I'll have to agree with the previous posts, that the book seems somewhat small, or short in comparison to the presented content.

Oct-29-09  parisattack: <FSR: <parisattack> ... - surely that was the man Fine seconded, Euwe.>

True. He caught Alekhine at a 'bad' time as it were. But Euwe will always be remembered well for so graciously giving Alekhine a speedy rematch, not trying to hold on to it for years...that is rare.

Oct-29-09  TheFocus: Euwe did a very good book: Bobby Fischer - The Greatest?. I was always impressed by that book and the comparisons he made between Fischer and the other world champions.

Mueller's book should be an interesting read. I believe that some of the games are presented from the "key moment" positions.

Oct-29-09  parisattack: <TheFocus: Euwe did a very good book: Bobby Fischer - The Greatest?. >

People seem to love that one - or hate it. I like it.

I listed all the Fischer-Spassky 72 books (top of most recent page) I know of and have on my Forum. Perhaps you could take a peek por favor see what I might have missed?

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