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Apr-06-12  hms123: <cro777> Aha! I had a copy of Chernev's book at one time. I have no idea what happened to it. Thanks.
Apr-06-12
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  kamalakanta: <cro777> Thanks! I knew I had seen it in a book!

May I ask how old are you? I am 55, and In played and studied chess actively for 6 years, from 1972-1978.

Apr-06-12  cro777: <kamalakanta> My main interest is a scientific approach to chess. I'm studying various algorithms (human not computer) for finding the best move in a certain position.
Apr-07-12
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  kamalakanta: cro777,

Hi, I am a musician, not a scientist, and I tell you than in many, many positions, the best move is the one that suits your style best. There is no algorithm for the human soul. Karpov plays one way, Tal another. Kasparov plays one way, Aronian another. It is part of the beauty of chess, that even through the maze of technical solutions, the human soul and character shine through. It is part of what we call "talent". Carlsen sees chess one way; Anand another. They will coincide in certain positions, yes, but by and large, their "style" and their "best moves" are defined by their personality....

Apr-07-12  cro777: <kamalakanta> There is no disagreement between us.

From the scientific standpoint chess has all the qualities of a complex system:

1) the abundance of elements,

2) hierarchy and

<3) a so-called "chaos zone", where it is impossible, in principle, to predict the direction that the system would develop in certain positions.>

Ad (3) chess intuition takes an important role.

As far as algorithms are concerned, there are at least five different types of algorithms. "Tal's" algorithm is different from "Capablanca's" etc.

The main chess skill is evaluation of the position. At the moment I'm studying Carlsen's games and his way of thinking. Carlsen clearly stated: " I immediately know how to rate a situation and what plan is necessary." Answering the question how many moves can he calculate ahead, Carlsen replied : "That depends on the game situation. But the trick is to correctly assess the position at the end of the calculation."

When talking of researching the chess game as a complex system (using scientific methods) the main task is to determine the parameters of the position (and their values) which help to correctly assess the position and to select the right algorithm (among different algorithms).

But you are right. Chess is an art as well, it includes chess aesthetics; as sport it includes chess psychology. There are many variables in the equation.

Apr-08-12  cro777: <kamalakanta: In many, many positions, the best move is the one that suits your style best. There is no algorithm for the human soul.> Quite correct.

The aim of the research is to improve POSITIONAL UNDERSTANDING (not "algorithmic chess"). A strong player will always adapt the model to his specific playing style.

One can draw analogy to music. There are unlimited styles, cultures, and traditions for composing or improvising music, but the underlying natural phenomena (music is a specialized sub-set of sound) and organization structures (rhythm, harmony, and melody) always apply. A better understanding of the natural and intuitive phenomenon of music provides means to achieve finer styles, compositions, improvisations, performances, and appreciation.

On the other hand, there is algorithmic music, the use of formal procedures to make music without human intervention.

The latter is not my choice.

Apr-13-12
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  kamalakanta: cro777,

Thanks for your kind and courteous reply.

Ont thing that strikes me as true is that, in any chess game, the opening and early middlegame are the most creative parts.

The endgame seems the most scientific, and thus the realm in which one can apply more algorithmic considerations. It seems to be the most scientific part of the game; the one in which most notable progress can be made by systematic study.

But, believe me, I have not figured any of this out. I just enjoy the game, and the good moves that the Masters make.

Apr-25-12  parisattack: Has anyone seen any of the new Everyman 'Move by Move' opening books? Although I've never cared much for the m-b-m concept going all the way back to Chernev's tome, these look a bit different:

http://www.everymanchess.com/chess/...

Apr-27-12
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  kamalakanta: Hi, CRO777,

I just got a copy of "The Chess Companion", and the story titled "The Most Important Game" is not there at all!

Apr-27-12  cro777: <kamalakanta> Hi. The story appeared in Chess Review (July 1963, pg. 200). It also appeared in one of Chernev's books. I thought it was "The Chess Companion". Evidently, we need to consult his other books. Thank you for the information.
Apr-27-12
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  kamalakanta: <cro777> No worries. I will still enjoy his book. He really loves chess, and that is the main quality of his books, a real appreciation for the game.
Apr-29-12  TheFocus: <cro777> and <kamalakanta> I posted <The Most Important Game> on page 215 of Capablanca's page.

Jose Raul Capablanca

Apr-29-12  cro777: Thanks <TheFocus>. The story appeared in one of Chernev's books as well. The question was which one?

Capablanca - Devil


click for larger view

Capablanca now played <Kc2> and the Devil played <h1=King!!>

"You can't do that!" said Capablanca, but the devil answered: "You said that when a pawn of mine reached the eigth rank, I could get <any> piece".

How did Capablanca manage to win?

1.Kc2 h1=K
2.a8=K (black) Kb8
3.h7 Ka8
4.h8=Q###(triple checkmate)

May-01-12  hms123: <Re-post>

<<parisattack>: Four Chess Book Resources - Here's four not-so-well-known resources for purchasing English and foreign material at decent prices:

1) Karel Mokry of the ChessBookShop, www.chessbookshop.com.

Excellent resource for foreign material. Karel is a fine fellow (and also a GM).

One caveat is shipping; it can get $$$.

2) www.ebay.de - Be sure to ascertain (if you are in the USA) they will ship to you before bidding/purchasing. German postage is MUCH less expensive than either Brit or (the worst!) Australian.

3) For English these folks often have a nice selection of chess books - and occasionally good bargains:

http://www.chapter1.co.za

4) GM Alex Baburin's www.gmsquare.com has auctions 3-4 times a year. Some awesome material - and awesome prices to go with it! But an occasional sleeper - I bought the complete run of Myer's Opening Bulletin for $60 a couple auctions back.>

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May-03-12  elric: Does anyone know of any books in English that covers the Max Lange Attack in detail. I already have An Opening Repertoire for the Attacking Club Player by Raymond Keene and David Levy .
May-03-12  parisattack: Koltanowski did a monograph on the Max Lange; ditto Chess Digest. I think also Estrin. Obviously any book on the Two Knights will cover it.
May-03-12  parisattack: Ditto: Soltis - Winning with the Giuoco Piano and the Max Lange.
May-04-12  elric: Many thanks for these suggestions.
May-05-12  parisattack: <elric> Welcome!

Eric Schiller's long awaited book on the Pterodactyl (...g6 ...Bg7 ... c5 often ...Qa5 has been released and is available on Amazon. Storey's The Sniper covers some similar territory and should probably be studied alongside - but Eric is The Man on this variation!

May-06-12
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  kamalakanta: I have a question:

I bought Moskalenko's books on the French Defense-

1) The Flexible French

and

2) The Wonderful Winawer

In "The Flexible French" he mentions what he calls "My System in the Winawer" (page 213), which I find ridiculous.

We are talking about the variation with 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 b6...

Honestly, I thought this was the Petrosian variation for Black in the Winawer.

Moskalenko covers it quite superficially.

So I have 2 questions:

1) Is it correct or fair form him to call it "his system"?

2) Are there any other French Defense books that give good coverage of this variation/system?

Thanks!

May-07-12  hms123: <kamalkanta> I am pretty sure that Moskalenko just means "the system I recommend" rather than "I invented this system." The first game he gives is Chistiakov vs Petrosian, 1956

This book http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Fren... by Psakhis has a short chapter (8 pages) on it. <Chapter 13: Winawer variation: 4 e5 b6 and others.>

Suetin (http://www.amazon.com/Defence-Tourn...) has about 2 pages, but the book is from 1988.

Vitugiov (http://www.amazon.com/The-French-De...) mentions the line briefly (about a 1/2 page).

Finally, Rolf Schwarz (http://www.amazon.com/Franz%C3%B6si...) has an old (1967) eight pages of annotated games.

That's all I could find.

I think the problem is that many books on the French are repertoire books, so that if the author doesn't recommend a line, there's not much discussion of it.

May-07-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  kamalakanta: Hi, hms123,

In Moskalenko's book, there is no discussion of lines with Bxc3+ for Black; only with Bf8...and so on. I am sure at some point I will find more info on it.

My question arises because in a recent trip to Iceland, my opponent (Black) played

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 Qd7 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 Ba6, to which I responded 7.Bd3?! Bxd3 8.cxd3. My idea was to not let him dominate the white squares in the a6-f1 diagonal. It was an uphill battle, so I was looking for some theory on it.

http://blog.chess.com/kamalakanta/t...

May-07-12  parisattack: The old Batsford book - French Winawer: Modern and Auxiliary Lines covers the ...b6 Winawer in depth 150 or so pages). It breaks down as to whether black simply fianchettos with ...Bb7 or exchanges with ...Ba6. The line is time-consuming and black needs to have the right touch or he can get busted quickly. c4 by white can be deadly.
May-08-12  hms123: <kamalakanta>

Your line <1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 Qd7 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 Ba6> is impossible. I looked at your blog to get the right line.

Here are the only two games I have (with both players above 2200) that started off as you did. In the first, Black played your <9...Ne7> and won. In the second, Black played <9...Nc6> and lost. I haven't looked the games closely, thus I don't know that the ninth move was all that important, especially as you played <...Nc6> on the next move.

Zhigalko, S (2665) -- Kuzubov, Y (2633)
6th Femida Cup 2010 (2) Kharkiv UKR
2010.11.24 0-1 C16

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 b6 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 Qd7 7.a4 Ba6 8.Bd3 Bxd3 9.cxd3 Ne7 10.Qg4 Nf5 11.Nf3 Nc6 12.Bg5 h6 13.Qh5 Rg8 14.Bf4 O-O-O 15.g4 Nfe7 16.Bg3 Rdf8 17.O-O Qe8 18.Qh3 Rh8 19.Rfe1 h5 20.gxh5 Nf5 21.Qg4 Rfg8 22.Kf1 Kb7 23.Ra2 a5 24.Rb2 Qe7 25.Rb3 g6 26.hxg6 Rxg6 27.Qf4 f6 28.c4 fxe5 29.Nxe5 Nxe5 30.Qxe5 Rh5 31.Bf4 Ng3+ 32.Bxg3 Rxe5 33.Rxe5 Qd7 34.cxd5 Qxa4 35.Rb1 Qxd4 36.Rbe1 Qxd3+ 37.Kg1 exd5 38.Re7 Qc3 39.Rd1 Rg7 40.Re3 Qc4 41.Red3 Rd7 42.Rd4 Qe2 43.h4 c5 44.R4d2 Qg4 45.Rb1 d4 46.Rdb2 Rd6 47.Re1 Re6 0-1

Swinkels, Robin (2448) -- Berg, Emanuel (2601)
ENCI Limburg Open (3) Maastricht NED
2008.05.10 1-0 C16i

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 Qd7 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 b6 7.Bd3 Ba6 8.a4 Bxd3 9.cxd3 Nc6 10.Nf3 Nge7 11.O-O O-O 12.Ba3 Rfc8 13.Qc2 Na5 14.Rfb1 Nb7 15.Bb4 h6 16.h3 Ng6 17.Ra2 c5 18.dxc5 bxc5 19.Ba3 c4 20.d4 Na5 21.Rb5 Qd8 22.Bd6 Nf4 23.Rab2 a6 24.Rb6 Nb3 25.Rb4 Rc6 26.Kh2 Rac8 27.Rb1 Qa5 28.Nd2 Qd8 29.Nxb3 cxb3 30.R1xb3 f5 31.Rb7 Ng6 32.Qd2 Qh4 33.Ra7 Kh7 34.Rbb7 Rg8 35.Qe3 Qh5 36.Qg3 Rcc8 37.Be7 f4 38.Qg4 Qxg4 39.hxg4 Nxe7 40.Rxe7 Rxc3 1-0

May-10-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  kamalakanta: Hi, hms...sorry...I usually post without looking at a board....yes, the correct moves are:

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 Qd7 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 b6 7.a4 Ba6 8.Bd3 Bxd3 9.cxd3

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