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   Chessgames Bookie has kibitzed 2101 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Jan-08-21 Chessgames Bookie chessforum (replies)
 
Chessgames Bookie: Thanks for the tip, WinKing. Hope it works because, to tell you the truth, I'm feeling a bit frustrated. ciao, jingo
 
   Jan-08-21 chessgames.com chessforum (replies)
 
Chessgames Bookie: It would be great if we could get the Bookie site set up to start the new leg with the TATA Steel tournament about to begin in a week. Thanks
 
   Dec-26-20 Sargon chessforum (replies)
 
Chessgames Bookie: Sargon, Could we get an adminstrator to close out the Fall Leg of the Chessbookie? Prizes and reset all to $1000, or more if we're not going to get a mid-leg payday? Thanks, jingo Gens una sumus!
 
   Oct-07-20 Norway Chess (2020) (replies)
 
Chessgames Bookie: Please join us at the ChessBookie room for some fun wagering, play money. Tough competition! Altibox Norway 2020, Rd 6: Aronian-Caruana Thanks
 
   Oct-01-20 Kibitzer's Café (replies)
 
Chessgames Bookie: Rub your lucky charm! Time to bet on the Winner of the upcoming Altibox tournament. Altibox Norway 2020: Winner! Gens una sumus
 
   Sep-16-20 Petrosian vs G Stoltz, 1952 (replies)
 
Chessgames Bookie: I had no idea that Kotov won that tournament, and with what a score!!
 
   Sep-15-20 St. Louis Rapid & Blitz (2020) (replies)
 
Chessgames Bookie: And how will Alireza do tomorrow against the Champ? St. Louis Rapid & Blitz, Rd 7 Rapid: Firouzja-Carlsen Place your bet (after checking your crystal ball, of course).
 
   Sep-13-20 Champions Showdown Chess 9LX (2020) (replies)
 
Chessgames Bookie: Speaking of draws, how many today in round 7? Starts in a few hours. Only one in Rd 6 yesterday. Place your bets! Click ChessBookie at the top of the page to play!
 
   Apr-19-20 moronovich chessforum (replies)
 
Chessgames Bookie: Hi moronovich, I'm jingohanson, the new Bookie. The Pick two is for day four of the event, with the games I posted. Sorry about the confusion. I should have put (Day 4) in the description. Thanks for welcoming me. Your suggestions are welcome. Ciao, jingohanson
 
   Dec-23-19 Biographer Bistro (replies)
 
Chessgames Bookie: Just for the record. Annie and Twinlark were volunteers. I posted more on my profile page. 😊
 
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Sep-10-12  sushijunkie: Armenia brings the junkie back to life! What's next? I needz me fix.
Sep-11-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Chessgames Bookie: We've decided that no matter what, we'll end this leg at the end of the aforementioned Grand Prix, on October 3rd.

Now the question is what will keep us busy until that event starts. The chess calendar seems to have a bit of a lull right now.

Sep-12-12  brankat: <Chessgames Bookie> <Now the question is what will keep us busy until that event starts.>

Perhaps You could assign odds to the current top Ten on the Leaderboard + Other, and we can bet on "Who will be the Winner of the Summer Leg?" :-)

Sep-12-12  dakgootje: <Perhaps You could assign odds to the current top Ten on the Leaderboard + Other, and we can bet on "Who will be the Winner of the Summer Leg?">

Although perhaps fun - it might make for some paradoxes.

Suppose I'd win it without that bet, and SQ would cash big because he had a max-bet on me [and well, why wouldn't you?!] - after which he'd overtake me to win the leg.

Then that invalidates his bet, defaulting to me winning after all. Validating his bet.

Und so weiter.

Sep-12-12
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: <Bookie> Livigno Open maybe? http://www.livignoscacchi.it/eng/?p...

I would definitely have a max-bet on <dakkie> :)

Sep-12-12
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  Chessgames Bookie: <Although perhaps fun - it might make for some paradoxes.> A bet on who will win the most bets. I think my head is going to explode.

But good news folks, we have a new tournament. In fact it started yesterday. It's called the Black Sea Countries Final (2012) and it features a GM from all of the countries that border the Black Sea (see http://www.chessbg.com/live for a graphical depiction). That will carry us all the way to the 19th and then it's time for the London Grand Prix.

Good luck!

Sep-12-12
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  perfidious: A bet on the most winning bets-sounds as though we're heading for Super Bowl territory, where one can find all sorts of prop bets if so inclined.
Sep-12-12
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  Sneaky: <Then I begin to think what a bet I'd done / I grabbed my bucks and away I run / I made a good run but a little too dull / They overtook me in Istanbul...>

With apologies to Arthel Lane "Doc" Watson (March 3, 1923 – May 29, 2012) RIP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpYe...

Sep-13-12
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  Chessgames Bookie: I promised to make a ruling on the subject of <the reopening of the betting windows>

We did two things. First, there is a new clause in the fineprint of the "Discrepancies and Disputes" section of the ChessBookie Game Help Page. (Do we have to make everybody click an "I agree" button now?)

The addition reads:

<5. Normally, a bet will close at the designated close-time and no further action will be taken. However, if we learn that the bet has been scheduled to close much earlier than necessary, the Chess Bookie reserves the right to reopen a closed window for more betting.>

Second, is that I will be much more sensitive to the problems with re-opening closed wagers, and only do it in the circumstances of the most blatant of errors.

In short, while I retain the right to do it, I give you my promise to avoid doing it.

One final comment, I don't think it's fair to say that SwitchingQuylthulg "exploited a glitch" — ultimately, he had to place money on tickets which actually were winners.

Sep-13-12
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: <Bookie> It looks as if round 3 is scheduled to close three hours late. I'd say that will have to be fixed, even if it costs <OBIT> another 2 virtual dollars :)
Sep-13-12
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  Chessgames Bookie: Oh, right you are! Thanks for that. Odd that round 3 would be at such a wildly different time.
Sep-13-12
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: Well, it's the only way they can fit two rounds into one day :)
Sep-14-12  brankat: <Chessgames Bookie> Any chance of Pick-3 wager in the coming rounds? Thank You.
Sep-16-12
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  Chessgames Bookie: Here's one, and more to come! Women Grand Prix Rd 2: PICK THREE
Sep-16-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Chessgames Bookie: Also London Grand Prix: WINNER now open for betting.
Sep-19-12  hms123: <Bookie>

< shivasuri4: <chessgames.com>, Svidler has been replaced by Adams in the FIDE Grand Prix, as per http://www.chessdom.com/london-fide... >

The organisers have had to effect a last minute replacement as GM Peter Svidler has had to withdraw from this leg due to family reasons.

London GP participants:
GM Hikary Nakamura USA 2783
GM Vassily Ivanchuk UKR 2769
GM Alexander Grischuk RUS 2754
GM Veselin Topalov BUL 2752
GM Hao Wang CHN 2742
GM Boris Gelfand ISR 2738
GM Peter Leko HUN 2737
GM Anish Giri NED 2730
GM Shakriyar Mamedyarov AZE 2729
GM Leinier Dominguez CUB 2725
GM Michael Adams ENG 2722 (replacing Peter Svidler)
GM Rustam Kasimdzhanov UZB 2684

Sep-20-12  dakgootje: Hey mister Books, word on the street is today is actually a rest-day at Women Playing Mindgames - so this could be your first ruling on wheter or not to re-open the lines!
Sep-20-12  WinKing: Hey <dakgootje> he was hoping nobody would notice heh, heh.
Sep-20-12
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  OBIT: Dakgootje is positively foaming at the mouth, sensing another chance may be forthcoming to place bets after the original closing deadline...

Here's a thought: To encourage players to place their bets sooner (there is no question it is advantageous to wait on your bets until the odds are starting to clarify themselves), incorporate a "tax" into the betting that gets bigger as the betting deadline approaches. To give one example on how this could be structured:

Bets placed more than eight hours before the deadline would have no tax. At the eight hour mark, the tax kicks in, with an increase to the tax of 0.1% for each two minutes that transpire. So, if a $100 bet is placed 20 minutes after the eight hour mark, 1% of the bet is taxed. leaving $99 to go into the betting pool. A bet placed seven hours before the closing time would be taxed 3%, six hours before closing time would be taxed 6%, etc. up to a maximum of 24% for a bet placed just before the windows close.

I still think there would be a strategy to waiting on the bets. However, the decision would be much more complex - how much principle are you willing to give up to get additional information?

Sep-20-12  dakgootje: <Blinking>

Presumably! Bit surprised none seemed to have noticed it yet, neither here nor at the tournament-topic page. So I gathered I'd better header the matter.

nb: Obviously in this case 'header' is a verb akin to 'pass along', when in need of a verb rhyming with better.

<Obit>

I can ensure you my mouth is foam-free, which I've heard is the correct technical term according to scientists researching every aspect pertaining to foam. Or lack thereof.

But to more pressing matters, if you press:

Considering you recently made the whole situation of re-opening lines a big deal, I thought it no more than logical that the first such occasion, we'd better get an Official Chessbookie Ruling.

Certainly, previously in this situation lines would've opened once more. Presumably the case is more complex now - so it should be informative to see whether the lines re-open or not.

--

Of course, you might not believe that my intentions are for the best. So if you so please I could withhold any bets in the event of re-opening of lines, as not to take any possible advantage of them.

Sep-20-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Chessgames Bookie: It's true, we were caught unawares with the rest day in Ankara. We are not going to re-open any closed windows but we made a new bet to keep you busy:

Women Grand Prix Rd 5: PICK THREE

Good luck!

Sep-20-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  OBIT: <dakgootge> Actually, I was just using this possible reopening of the betting windows (and only you and one other player jumped on it, surprisingly) as an excuse to propose the tax idea. This is an interesting game, but I think one imperfection is that optimal strategy is to wait on your bets. So, if everyone adopts optimal strategy, nobody bets and there is no game. And that can't be any fun.
Sep-20-12  dakgootje: I'm not sure waiting is the optimal strategy actually.

It has 1 major drawback, namely that you can't get many c$ in. So alternatively using your c$ and betting big early on, so that odds can settle, can be very effective. You get bigger swigns, and it might be less optimal over the long run - but this game only has the short run. The sprint.

Perhaps a combination of both is best - I simply don't know.

Sep-20-12  brankat: <So, if everyone adopts optimal strategy, nobody bets and there is no game.> Except this never happens.

In theory, Practice and Theory are the same. In practice they are not.

The game we are playing is one of strategy, and the "taxing" system would spoil it. Besides, I've never seen the "system" being used at racetracks, or anywhere else.

The game is good enough as it is, so it's best to leave it alone.

Sep-20-12  WinKing: Thanks <Book> for the Pick Three! Your right that will keep us busy...& smilin'. :)
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