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Jan-23-07
 | | Annie K.: Hehe...
"You owe me a lot of dough, buddy boy."
Guess I should pay up, 'cause Sharkie needs new glasses! ;p |
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| Jan-23-07 | | TrueBlue: so WannaBe, you think you have a shot of winning this thing? |
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Jan-23-07
 | | WannaBe: <TrueBlue> No. =) |
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Jan-24-07
 | | Chessgames Bookie: We're taking late bets for the winner of 5th Gibraltar Chess Festival. Please note that the event has already started, so follow the standings from the official site before placing your wagers. |
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Jan-24-07
| | WannaBe: Anand, You Da Man!!! Ka-Ching! Ka-Ching!! =) |
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Jan-24-07
| | WannaBe: ♔ Handi-Capper's Corner ♔
Get you going for Friday's games!!
Round 11 - Friday the 26th
D. Navara - A. Motylev: They played in 2006 Corus Group B, and the game was a draw, Navara vs Motylev, 2006 R. Ponomariov - S. Tiviakov: Ponomariov have the lead, +2 -0 =3, when Ponomariov have white, he is +1 -0 =1 against Tiviakov. V. Anand - A. Shirov: Two opponents that knows each other well, but Anand has a huge lead, +23 -6 =44. When Anand have white, he is +14 -2 =20 against Shirov. L. Aronian - S. Karjakin: Aronian leads this with +1 -0 =5, when Levon have white, he is +0 -0 =3 against Sergey. M. Carlsen - L. van Wely: Carlsen have a +4 -1 =3 lead in their head-to-head meetings. When Carlsen have white, he is undefeated, with +3 -0 =1 against Loek. P. Svidler - V. Topalov: Topalov have a slim lead of +9 -8 =13 against Svidler. When Peter have white, he is +5 -6 =5 against Veselin. V. Kramnik - T. Radjabov: Kramnik is undefeated against Radjabov, +2 -0 =5. When Kramnik have white, he is +2 -0 =1 against Teimour. |
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Jan-25-07
 | | Chnebelgrind: The 1:50 underdog Womacka is to be about to win Marienbad! http://schach.wienerzeitung.at/tnr5... |
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Jan-25-07
| | WannaBe: ♔ Handi-Capper's Corner ♔
Gonna get the last rounds stats posted, so I can take a rest before the next big tournament. Round 12 - Saturday the 27th
A. Motylev - T. Radjabov: They have played once, and the game ended in a draw. Radjabov vs Motylev, 2004 V. Topalov - V. Kramnik: Now, really, do you need my stats to handicap these two? Where have you been for the last year? L. van Wely - P. Svidler: Svidler leads it with +6 -4 =11. When Loek have white, he is +1 -3 =5 against Peter. However, the three losses were either Blitz or Rapid games. S. Karjakin - M. Carlsen: Ah, the two youngster... Karjakin leads it +1 -0 =2. When Karjakin have white, the game ended in a draw. A. Shirov - L. Aronian: Surprisingly they only have 2 games in the database, Aronian leads it +1 -0 =1. When Shirov had white he lost. S. Tiviakov - V. Anand: Dead tied, +3 -3 =6. However, the games do include Corsica Masters Rapid, when Tiviakov have white, he is +1 -0 =2. One of the draw took place in the 2001 Corsica Masters Rapid Tournament. D. Navara - R. Ponomariov: No record in the database, this will be their meeting. |
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Jan-25-07
| | WannaBe: ♔ Handi-Capper's Corner ♔
Last Round!!
Round 13 - Sunday the 28th
R. Ponomariov - A. Motylev: Ponomariov leads it with +1 -0 =5, when Ruslan have white, he is +0 -0 =4 against Alexander. V. Anand - D. Navara: This will be their first ever meeting. L. Aronian - S. Tiviakov: Aronian lead it with +1 -0 =3, when Aronian have white, (which he has for the last 3 meetings!) he is +1 -0 =2 against Sergei. M. Carlsen - A. Shirov: Carlsen leads it with +1 -0 =1. Both times Carlsen had white. P. Svidler - S. Karjakin: Svidler and Karjakin have never faced each other. V. Kramnik - L. van Wely: Kramnik have a big lead of +18 -5 =8, when Kramnik have white, he is +11 -1 =4. However 9 of these games are either Amber Blind, or Rapid. T. Radjabov - V. Topalov: Tied at +1 -1 =4. Now, when Radjabov had white, he is +0 -1 =3 against Topalov. If Teimour is within a shot of first place, this game can become very interesting. ♕ See you all at the next tournament! ♕ |
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| Jan-26-07 | | TrueBlue: wish I can collect interest on my chessbucks .... |
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Jan-26-07
| | WannaBe: Sure, the ONE time, that I pressed my bet on Anand, he drew! #*&!(*@#@ |
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| Jan-26-07 | | Joshka: <Chessbookie> Any reason my round 11 game Carlsen/van Wely is still a LIVE BET??...I lost it was drawn. |
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| Jan-27-07 | | Bob726: Can you please cash out the ticket of who gets the better score between Carlsen and Karjakin? Karjakin will always have more points than Carlsen by the tournement's end. I really need those chessbucks because i haven't better in a few rounds because i lost of all my money to loanshark. |
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| Jan-28-07 | | Joshka: I have money on both Aronian and Radjabov to win, so with the tie, I win both ways? |
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| Jan-28-07 | | TrueBlue: I am broke :( Can't believe Topalov lost a won game against Svidler. All he needed to do was perform a simple check with the rook. Is this too much to ask? :(((((((((
How can "the best player in the world" make such child mistakes?!?!?!?!? |
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| Jan-28-07 | | barbababa: <Chessgames Bookie> Radjabov, Topalov and Aronian were all Corus A group winners. Shouldn't they all have the same decimal odds (about 2.49)? It doesn't feel right if 100 bet for Radjabov wins more that 100 bet for Topalov. |
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| Jan-28-07 | | suenteus po 147: <barbababa> The payout percentage doesn't work like that. The decimal odds are calculated based on how much money people bet on each player. Topalov pays out less than Radjabov on equal tickets because more money was bet that Topalov would win. It drives his odds way down and the odds of everyone else up. If everyone had bet equally on Radjabov, Aronian, and Topalov, then they would pay out equally too. |
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Jan-28-07
 | | Sneaky: HA!!! From knocking on death's door to almost 7000 chessbucks!!! All thanks to Aronian. GOD BLESS ARMENIA!! |
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| Jan-28-07 | | refutor: i'm top 25 and i didn't start with 10000 chess bucks...i'm happy enough with that ;) |
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| Jan-28-07 | | barbababa: <suenteus po 147> 23,286 (Topalov) + 4,140 (Aronian) + 3,826 (Radjabov) = 31252 chessbucks was betted for correct Corus winner. The price pool should be divided evenly to these chessbucks. To my knowledge, that is how it works with real money betting. |
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| Jan-28-07 | | suenteus po 147: <barbababa: The price pool should be divided evenly to these chessbucks. To my knowledge, that is how it works with real money betting.> That doesn't sound right to me. I would be very interested to see where that's done if it's true. The point is, the odds are in place to reward the bigger gambler. When you bet on the sure thing, your winnings are small. When you bet on the longshot, and win, the rewards are huge. The chessbookie betting is designed to reflect that idea. The decimal pay out is fixed and does not suddenly change because there has been a tie. If you want the bigger pay out, next time put your chessbucks on the higher odds. |
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| Jan-28-07 | | barbababa: <suenteus po 147>
http://sports.betfair.com/
Click chess and Corus 2007 winner.
You can see that the final coefficient to all three Aronian, Radjabov and Topalov is the same. That seems to me natural way to deal the price pool. |
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| Jan-28-07 | | suenteus po 147: <barbababa> Interesting. That would be the place to bet, then! You would make more money for Topalov sharing first than you would if he won on his own. Can't get a better deal than that. |
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| Jan-28-07 | | barbababa: <suenteus po 147> <You would make more money for Topalov sharing first than you would if he won on his own.> I don't understand why you say this. You would make less money. |
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| Jan-28-07 | | suenteus po 147: <barbababa> Perhaps I don't understand your question then. Or perhaps the betting system is just completely different instead of slightly different. My understanding of betting systems comes from the discussion of how the Chessbookie was devised. Basically, the odds are variable until betting "closes." What changes the odds has to do with how much each person bets on each player and the outcome. Once the betting closes, the odds are fixed and don't change no matter the outcome, even in the case of a three way tie. That means that, if Topalov's odds are set at 1.6 (for example), you will get paid for those odds, even if Radjabov and Aronian win also and their odds are 4.8 and 4.6 respectively. What you seem to be complaining about is that the odds aren't reset to account for ties as in the above example. If there are other places that do that, it would seem that you get paid more for Topalov tying for first (the odds reset) than you would if he was sole winner (the odds stay set). Am I missing something? |
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