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   Jan-08-19 Domdaniel chessforum (replies)
 
Domdaniel: Blank Reg: "They said there was no future - well, this is it."
 
   Jan-06-19 Kibitzer's Café (replies)
 
Domdaniel: Haaarry Neeeeds a Brutish Empire... https://youtu.be/ZioiHctAnac
 
   Jan-06-19 G McCarthy vs M Kennefick, 1977 (replies)
 
Domdaniel: Maurice Kennefick died over the new year, 2018-2019. RIP. It was many years since I spoke to him. He gave up chess, I reckon, towards the end of the 80s, though even after that he was sometimes lured out for club games. I still regard this game, even after so many years, as the ...
 
   Jan-06-19 Maurice Kennefick (replies)
 
Domdaniel: Kennefick died over the 2018-19 New Year. Formerly one of the strongest players in Ireland, he was the first winner of the Mulcahy tournament, held in honour of E.N. Mulcahy, a former Irish champion who died in a plane crash. I played Kennefick just once, and had a freakish win, ...
 
   Jan-06-19 Anand vs J Fedorowicz, 1990 (replies)
 
Domdaniel: <NBZ> -- Thanks, NBZ. Enjoy your chortle. Apropos nothing in particular, did you know that the word 'chortle' was coined by Lewis Carroll, author of 'Alice in Wonderland'? I once edited a magazine called Alice, so I can claim a connection. 'Chortle' requires the jamming ...
 
   Jan-06-19 chessgames.com chessforum (replies)
 
Domdaniel: <al wazir> - It's not easy to go back through past Holiday Present Hunts and discover useful information. Very few people have played regularly over the years -- even the players who are acknowledged as best, <SwitchingQuylthulg> and <MostlyAverageJoe> have now ...
 
   Jan-05-19 Wesley So (replies)
 
Domdaniel: Wesley is a man of his word. Once again, I am impressed by his willingness to stick to commitments.
 
   Jan-04-19 G Neave vs B Sadiku, 2013 (replies)
 
Domdaniel: Moral: if you haven't encountered it before, take it seriously. Remember Miles beating Karpov with 1...a6 at Skara. Many so-called 'irregular' openings are quite playable.
 
   Dec-30-18 Robert Enders vs S H Langer, 1968
 
Domdaniel: <HMM> - Heh, well, yes. I also remembered that Chuck Berry had a hit with 'My Ding-a-ling' in the 1970s. I'm not sure which is saddest -- that the author of Johnny B. Goode and Memphis Tennessee and Teenage Wedding - among other short masterpieces - should sink to such ...
 
   Dec-30-18 T Gelashvili vs T Khmiadashvili, 2001 (replies)
 
Domdaniel: This is the game I mean: Bogoljubov vs Alekhine, 1922
 
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Sep-24-06
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  Domdaniel: The 11.Na3 forum is now open.
Analysis is welcome.

Points in favour of 11.Na3: it can aim for useful squares such as c4 without blocking the Bc1 (as N1d2 would do); and it leaves us free to play c3 if we need to - ie, it's not Nc3, which I think is a bad square for this piece.

Do note that 11.Nc3 and 11.a5 are already 30+ votes ahead after one hour, with 11.Na3 a distant third. We need to make this good, or be prepared to pick one of the others. If necessary, I prefer 11.a5 (it's not Nc3).

Sep-24-06
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  Domdaniel: Thorsson: We must head off the lemming race.

11.Na3 Nxd3 12.cxd3 d5 13.exd5 Qxd5 14.Nc4!

11.Na3 Bf6 12.Nc4!

11.Na3 Nf6 12.Bh6!

Sep-24-06
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  Domdaniel: The lines

11.Na3 Bf6 12.Nc4 Nxc4 13.Bxc4

and 11.Na3 Bd7 (a Fritz suggestion which is unlikely to be played by Arno) 12.Nc4 Nxc4 13.Bxc4 should appeal strongly to anyone who doesn't like our passive pawn-like bishop on d3.

In these lines it once again becomes a meat-eating cleric along Sozin-Fischer lines.

Sep-24-06
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  Domdaniel: The key idea behind 11.Na3 is to quickly continue with 12.Nc4. Note that after 11.Na3 Bf6 12.Nc4 we put the question to Black's Ne5 without having to play the weakening move f4. If 12...Nxc4 13.Bxc4 we've won a minor victory - getting rid of his Ne5 and activating our KB.

The beauty of this is that Black can't hit back immediately with either ...b5 or ...d5 - both fail for tactical reasons, easily checked. He could try 12.Nc4 Ne7, but then 13.Rd1 looks very strong:


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Sep-24-06
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  Domdaniel: Here is a mainline supported by 3 hours of Fritz, with occasional nudges. It really has the potential to satisfy both the 11.a5 and 11.Na3 camps, as well as those who'd like to activate the Bd3. 11.Na3 Bf6 12.Nc4 Ne7 13.Rd1 0-0 14.a5


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In this position we're eyeing b6, and Black is getting cramped, despite having castled. His Ne5 has a choice of pieces to exchange for, but both are good for us. After 14...Nxc4 15.Bxc4 the white bishop comes alive, while ...Nxd3 would gives us strong play in the centre while also permitting Nb6.

Note btw that it's a mistake to play Bh6 in this line to prevent castling: 12...Ne7 13.Bh6? Nxc4 14.Bxc4 Bxb2. This is another reason to reserve the option of playing our c2 pawn to c3.

I've concentrated on lines where Black plays ...Bf6 and ...Ne7 to castle kingside. Obviously he has alternatives. The main one is ...b6, with ...Qc7 and perhaps ...Bb7. But in these lines he has difficulty developing the Ng8 and untangling his kingside.

We are OK here after 11.Na3. We can keep a5 as part of our follow-up plan - meanwhile the Pa4 does fine work preventing ...b5 and supporting a Nc4.

Sep-24-06
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  Domdaniel: Ron: Here's a sample line with 11 Na3 I played:

11. Na3 Nf6 12. Rd1 Bd7 13. Nc4 Nxd3 14. Qxd3 Bc6 15. Nxd6+ Bxd6 16. Qxd6 Qxd6 17. Rxd6 Nxe4 18. Rd1 Bd5 19. Nd4 Rd8 20. f3 Nf6 21. Bg5 Ke7

Sep-24-06
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  Domdaniel: zhuoliang: Na3 is a better move than Nc3 or a5. a5 only leaves the pawn weak and ties down the rook to its defense. Nc3 may help prevent ...d5, but it has pretty limited movement from c3. On a3, the knight is ready to enter c4. If black exchanges on d3 and plays ...d5 right away, then c4 will make him regret it. Also, playing ...d5 is going to allow White to eventually use the open e-file and the weak dark squares around black's king to attack.
Sep-24-06  NateDawg: <a5 only leaves the pawn weak and ties down the rook to its defense> White should play ♗b6, defending the pawn and relieving the rook of its defensive duties. That cannot be said about a knight on b6.
Sep-24-06
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  Domdaniel: I think the answer to NateDawg's objection is this: if we control b6, then both a knight and bishop can occupy it in turn - Nimzo's classic alternation strategy. Putting oneor the other there isn't a permanent thing.
Sep-25-06  monad: Good morning, Have you approached Nasruddin Hodja (NH) to copy his post on your forum? I have great respect for his opinions. (Ever since he very kindly semi-defended my impudent remarks on the Berliner-Estrin game ;-)

I would like to hear what he thinks of the 11.Na3 move, which I am wary of.

In a likely line, 11.Na3 Bd7 12.Nc4 NxN 13.BxN Rc8

White has used tempi to lead the Knight to slaughter, whilst at the end of the exchange Black has freed -c8- AND has had time to put his Rook there. That must constitute an advantage, whatever engines tell me. No?

Sep-25-06
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  Domdaniel: <Monad> is that the line <11.Na3 Bd7 12.Nc4 NxN 13.BxN Rc8> ?

Offhand, I'd say we're fine. Black's knight (Nb8-d7-e5-c4) actually made more moves before destructing. The revitalisation of the white KB is good, even if it can be hit with ...Rc8. And black's kingside is still tied up in knots. Small plus to white, I'd say, but I'll look at it a bit more anon.

Sep-25-06  monad: <Domdaniel: <Monad> is that the line <11.Na3 Bd7 12.Nc4 NxN 13.BxN Rc8> ? Offhand, I'd say we're fine >

<"Offhand"> doesn't cut it I'm afraid. If you promote this line that I disagree with, you'll have to give me a <"hands-on"> argument against my line.

(So there! ;-) In my usual genteel manner.)

Sep-25-06  djmercury: What about Bd7 against Na3?

I keep to think that the b knight development can be delayed and later go to d2 - c4/f3. A possible line: 11. a5 Nf6 12. Be3 Bd7 13. Bb6 Qb8 14. N1d2 Bc6 15. f4 Nxd3 16. cxd3 0-0 17. Rac1 Nd7 18. Bd4 Qd8. I know these long lines are useless, since they are just a guess, but the position look promising for white.

Sep-25-06
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  Domdaniel: <djmercury> I agree that Nb1-d2 is fine if we've already committed the Bc1 to a quick Be3-e6. The idea of being able to move the knight kingside as well as to c4 is flexible and good.

But Black might also play ...Bf6, hitting c3/b2/a1, which makes the early bishop move less comfortable for us. And of course we lose the option of Bh6 (which is bad in some lines but looks OK in others).

Which, roughly, is why I prefer 11.Na3 and 12.Nc4 - ...Bd7 is actually mentioned in one of the lines near the top of this page.

Sep-25-06
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  kwgurge: Why not a5 before Na3-c4? I don't see anything black can do to disrupt this plan without tactical issues for him. With the pawn on a5 when Na3c4 is played black's knight on e5 is immediately put to the choice. If he plays NxN, as <Domdaniel> notes above the position favors white after our B recaptures. If he plays something other than NxN, our QN can go to b6 where it is very disruptive. Also, if we play a5 before Na3 then <monad's> concern of Bd7 and Rc8 would seem to be addressed by interposing Be3 before Nc4 as in 11. a5, Bd7 12. Na3, Rc8 13. Be3 with the threat of 14. Bb6 where it is black who loses the tempo in order to save the Queen. If 14... Bc6 to create an escape square for the Q, then 15. Bb6, Qd7 16. f4, Nxd3 17. cxd3 and white has the strong pawn center, connected rooks and the better chances for pressure on the c-file.

I'm at work without access to an engine to review this eyeball analysis, so I may have missed something. But the point, I think, is that Na3 appears stronger after a5 because of the immediate b6 threats which don't exist while the pawn is on a4. After a5 then Na3, the threat of Nc4 may be temporarily stronger than actually playing it. It would certainly give black much more to think about.

Sep-25-06  djmercury: As it's likely our next move will be a5 and the likely reply is Nf6. Obviously then we have not to worry about a possible Bf6. As for Bh6 I have yet to see it being a problem for black, but I could well be wrong. We may better incourage black castle kingside, since it may even easier to attack his position: 11. a5 Nf6 12. Be3 Bd7 13. Bb6 Qb8 14. N1d2 Bc6 15. f4 Nxd3 16. cxd3 0-0 17. Rac1 Nd7 18. Bd4 Qd8 and white is ready to attack the black kingside.
Sep-25-06
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  Domdaniel: <nasruddin hodja> says:

Ok. The posters who want instant gratification with Na3 make the plausible argument that the c4 square is immediately available, whereas the c3 square has no immediate prospects for the knight. I agree completely.

_But it's not that easy_. With 11. Na3 you are taking two tempi to exchange the knight at c4, or possibly three tempi to exchange it at b6. The knight is simply not going to reach both of these squares without getting whacked. To start some impromptu analysis, with 11. ... Bd7 black already puts the question to the a4 pawn, forcing either the exchange of knights at c4 or 12. a5. Let's look at that:

11. Na3 Bd7 12. a5 b5!? 13. axb6 Qxb6 14. Be3 (still trying to avoid the exchange on c4) Qb7 (keeping an eye on a6, b3, and e4) 15. f4 Nxd3 16. Qxd3 Nf6 17. Nd2 (e5 gives the f6 knight a very good square at d5) 0-0 (not Qxb2?? losing the queen) 18. Qd4 (avoiding the awkward 18. Nac4 Bb5) d5!

and it looks to me like black has equalized, given that closing the center with 19. e5 leaves the Na3 out of play.

Again, the above comes out of the powerful engine of my pocket chess set, with my idiot brain doing the evaluation. If computer analysis contradicts my hunches, all the better, but again, I think 11. Nc3 or 12. Nc3 gives the knight some hope of a future (as well as increased control of the d5 square) whereas after 11. Na3 it either gets stuck in a3 or gets exchanged off at c4.

If you want take two tempi to exchange the Nb1 for the Ne5, that's an acceptable (if suboptimal, imo) plan, but please don't have any illusions that the Na3 will have a future or that it will give us a winning advantage. I don't much like the c3 square for the knight, but preservation of potential energy argues for its deployment to this square because there is no other in which it will be around for the long-term.

Sep-25-06
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  Domdaniel: <thorsson on Ne5xd3>

Thorsson: We are now in a fluid situation. Moves that are poor now, could become good in a couple of moves time. Therefore we cannot condemn Nxd3 or f4 out of hand. But as of this moment Black will not exchange his nice N on e5 for our poor Bishop on d3 unless we play f4.

Why? Well, the B on d3 is poor at the moment, but if we get in f5 the Bishop is serving a purpose. So by taking the Bishop at that point the Knight weakens our possible f5 push as well as not wasting a tempo by retreating the Knight.

If f4 was to be played then it ought to have happened before a N got to e5.

As to what to recapture with, well best is with a R, but that costs us another tempo. Between the Q and the c-pawn it all depends on the exact position at the time. If we take with the c-pawn then we will want to push it to d4 asap, so if Black can get in an immediate d5, for example, you probably want to take with the Queen.

Sep-25-06  RookFile: Just out of curiousity Dom, you play 11. Na3, and black replies ...d5. What is white's reply? Thanks.
Sep-25-06  Thorsson: Rd1 is the answer to that
Sep-25-06  Thorsson: Hmmm, and exd5 seems to work as well
Sep-25-06  RookFile: Ok, let's get the details. 11. Na3 d5 12. exd5 Nxd3.

11. Na3 d5 12. Rd1 Nc6

Sep-25-06  Thorsson: 11.Na3 d5 12.exd5 Nxd3 13.cxd3 exd5 (13...Qxd5 14.Nc4 ->b6) 14.Qe5

11.Na3 d5 12.Rd1 Nc6 13.exd5 exd5 and it ought to be obvious that Black is in trouble, but here's an example 14.Bc4 Nf6 15.Bxd5 Nxd5 16.c4 Be6 17.cxd5 Bxd5 18.Nb5! There are other good lines as well.

Sep-25-06
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  Domdaniel: <Nasruddin Hodja> prefers Nc3:

Nasruddin Hodja:
Guys, either now or in 1-2 more moves, Nc3 is the best positional move for the knight. Again, I'll rely on intuition/positional considerations rather than engine analysis. The knight has no immediate moves after Nc3, but it _does_ exert control over the important b5, d5, and e4 squares. Ask yourself the following about later positions:

(1) Won't I be a mite unhappy if black is able to gain ground in the center with ... d5, which could have been prevented with the standard Nc3?

(2) After the a5 advance and Na3 or Nd2, isn't black's light-squared bishop at b5 going to be a serious pain in the ass if black has previously played Nxd3? Wouldn't it be nice if this was verboten because of Nc3xb5?

(3) Wouldn't it be good to have a knight to jump to e4 if we're able to get in f4 followed by e5?

If all you want to do is exchange off black's knight at e5, then by all means play Nd2 or Na3. It seems to me that that's equivalent to playing for a draw given that it uses up tempi and reduces control over the above squares. Personally, I prefer center control and the push for a breakthrough, which means the following sequence: Nc3, Be3, Rae1, Kh1, f4 and then either f5 or e5, whichever is better at opening up files for the rooks.

And yes, that's only one plan among many, but it's a good one, and I don't want to give it up just because too many people here are too cool and in the "in-crowd" to play a stick-in-the-mud positional move like Nc3.

Back to you Na3niks...

Sep-25-06
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  Domdaniel: Since I don't really think 11.Na3 stands a chance anymore - I'm clearly not a politician of RookFile's caliber - I'm going to broaden my forum. As of now, anything relevant to where the b1 knight should go - whether now, or after 11.a5, or whenever - will also be posted. This includes 11.a5 Nf6 (or ...Bf6, etc), 12.Nc3; 12.Na3; 12.Be3 followed by N1d2 & Nd2-c4/Nd2-f3 ...

Contributions welcome. Poke the eye.

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