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Mar-20-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Hallelujah!!!
<Best version by John Cale of course> |
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Mar-20-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Dom> just played through your game you posted there.... Brilliant!!! YOU'RE IMMORTAL NOW!! Do you have any other games in the <CG.com> database? |
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Mar-20-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Jess> Nope. Just one. A 50% score being quite typical, I think, going by my tournament record. <Achieve> Yeah... I hope Her Majesty breaks into the charts soon before I chew my fingernails off with the anxiety of waiting... |
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| Mar-20-07 | | WBP: <Dom> <Jess> You guys slay me! There's so much hilarious stuff in your posts (puns, wordplay [Assbinder!], the Victorian mini play [The queen had a bum? But did she ever touch it?], et al, as is always the case when you guys [and Eyal] get together). Thanks for letting me have my little say in the wonderful,charming, and always dangerous world of <FROGSPAWN!> Also, congrats to you both on your games, the center-stealing Philidor and the "Immortal" |
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| Mar-20-07 | | Ziggurat: <Dom> I see you have a quote about Mark Leyner up there (referring to "My cousin, my gastroenterologist", if I remember correctly.) That's nice - I've never come across anyone else who has read his books before. My favourite is probably "The tetherballs of Bougainville", if only for the movie script somewhere toward the end of the book. |
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Mar-20-07
 | | Domdaniel: <WBP> Fascinating discovery concerning 'Musee des Beaux Arts' ... I'm checking now to see whether the 'boy falling out of the sky' might be a reference to a sacrificed pawn at g7... There's also a highly controversial theory that the 19th century actually lasted for 110 years. There was a 'lost decade' -- a ten-year period which was so miserable they decided not to count it. The latest calculations place it between 1829 and 1830. Meaning that The French Defence could have incubated for a whole decade in there. Also, of course, mathematical boy wonder Evariste Galois was actually an old man of 30 when he invented Group Theory. Some of the other pioneers of this theory have distinctly dubious names. There's a Norwegian named Lie, and a woman named A.E.Noether ('Emmy' to her friends)... I think they're having us on. |
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Mar-20-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Jess> -- <Calculus is usually comically incorrect> Bishop Berkeley agreed with you. In 'Discourse to an Infidel Mathematician' he wrote of Newton's Calculus and its infinitesimal fluxions: "They are neither nothing ... nor something ... may we not call them The Ghosts of Departed Quantities?" |
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Mar-20-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Jess> Those Philidor guys... it's astonishing that anyone could still play 3...Bg4 after what happened in Morphy vs Duke of Brunswick. Perhaps the best-known game in chess history, way up there in the CG database, etc etc. You don't need no Fischer to rip it to shreds... OTOH, some people reason that when a move has been out of fashion for nearly 150 years that it might have a certain, ah, shock value. This, however, does not seem to be the way your opponents were thinking -- although it might have been the logic of whoever they were copying. Sigh. I guess Frogspawn had better annexe The Philidor as well. I hereby plant the Twisted Tricolor, yawn, Vive La Reine, Vive La Republique, ou est le maison de fromage...? |
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Mar-20-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Ziggurat> Yeah, Mark Leyner is great, and not sufficiently well known. <My Cousin My Gastroenterologist> was a cult hit, but everything else just flashed by. The only other one I actually own is called 'I Smell Esther Williams', a collection of small-zine stuff from the 1980s. I saw one of his books, 'Et Tu, Babe' in a bookshop once, newly published, but had no money with me. I went back for it about two weeks later and was told it was already out of print and totally unavailable. And I haven't seen anything new in at least 5 years... is he still writing, do you know? |
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Mar-20-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Dom> That IS the game I was looking at yesterday.... I'm such a bonehead. <Fischer,> of course, does the annotations for <Morphy v. Duke> Philidor game. THAT'S THE GAME I WAS LOOKING AT YESTERDAY.... It wasn't a Fischer game at all, I don't know why I forgot that in the space of 20 hours... Is there anything you don't know?
I'll have to repeat what I told <Eyal>.... Cut it out! You're making us all look bad!
Mrs. E<dom> Cheese
Aix en Provence
England |
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Mar-20-07
 | | Domdaniel: Nah, Jess, that Morphy game is incredibly well known. It (quite deservedly) features in almost every collection of great games, plus many books for novice players. White's play makes the game look almost easy. Not that 3...Bg4 actually deserves to lose the game -- but in that case it handed white an iniative which he steamrolled all the way to mate. I haven't actually read the Fischer annotations (see -- massive educational gaps despite all these centuries on this charming little planet)... |
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| Mar-20-07 | | WBP: <Dom I'm checking now to see whether the 'boy falling out of the sky' might be a reference to a sacrificed pawn at g7...> LOL--and that would be highly possible in those variations of the French where white plays Qg4 and sometimes picks up that g7 pawn. And the 110 years idea for the nineteenth century (another LOL--hey, I'm starting to get this computer stuff down!) makes perfect sense when we consider how lugubrious and tedious so much of that century sometimes seems to us. It's not that they were more so than any other century; it was just that they had more time to be so! <Sooner or later, the player of the French faces two problems: (1) What to do with the light squared Bishop, (2) How do you solve a problem like Maria?> And I think that these two questions really summarize, in a nutshell, the problem facing every chessplayer, even if Maria is "all the beautiful sounds of the world in a single word." But we also know that every angel's terrifying! |
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Mar-20-07
 | | Domdaniel: <WBP> Indeed. And John Cale -- to whom Jess alluded earlier, along with his <utterly definitive> version of Hallelujah -- also had a song, 'My Maria', which goes... <My Maria/
She's a simple kind of girl/
Goes to church/
Sees the blood of Jesus flow...>
The French may be an act of religious devotion to some, but it is not usually seen as a <locus of blood-letting> in the way that, say, the Dragon is. But the French is frequently the location of minor miracles, including almost all games won by Black. The ultimate example -- Reshevsky vs Vaganian, 1975 (there should be a link in my games collection under 'Theriomorphic French Games') isn't so much a miracle as the sun dancing in the sky, repeated bolts of Jovian lightning, mass hallucination, etc. Beyond a religious experience, or at least a Variety of same that would have shocked and scarified Mr William James. Varieties of Religious Experience? When your King reaches h4, you can pray to any deity you like... Cale again ('Chinese Envoy'):
"She could talk about things that never mattered ever/
One person's lying miserable life after another/
She could talk to the French/
Germans, at will ... they'd never listen...
And, dear lord, we'd have lost it all/
If it hadn't been for Cardinal Richelieu/
The Chinese Envoy was here/
And left...." |
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| Mar-20-07 | | Ziggurat: <I saw one of his books, 'Et Tu, Babe' in a bookshop once, newly published, but had no money with me. I went back for it about two weeks later and was told it was already out of print and totally unavailable.> I have it ... can mail it to you if you want. Also, as I wrote above, "The tetherballs of Bougainville" is pretty hilarious. <And I haven't seen anything new in at least 5 years... is he still writing, do you know?> I recently saw a couple of books that had been co-written by him on the general theme of explaining everyday phenomena, or something like that. ("Why is the skye blue" and so on) They looked so disappointing that I didn't even bother to open them. |
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Mar-20-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Jess> Today's chess tip, which -- if it works -- will also greatly enhance the kibitzing pleasure of your many fans. Don't let yourself forget the score of a game. OK, it was fast and tense and wild stuff happened. But if you work at reconstructing it, immediately afterwards, you should be able to recall it. It's all in there somewhere, stored by those zillions of chessic neurons. Dredge it up, like fishing for a dream before it fades. Admittedly, such reconstructions can be difficult enough when both players are present. When it's just you, it'll take all your resources. But the act of reconstructing the moves can be very good for your other chess skills. If it comes down to trying to fathom exactly which order your opponent made his blunders in, don't worry -- improvise. And do this *before* you jump in here to shout "YIPPPEEE", strong as the temptation must be. Discipline, Ma Reine, is how the French conquered the best bits of the planet (France, Quebec, Montreal, Tahiti, New Orleans, Beirut, Vientiane, Senegal, Algeria, St Pierre & Miquelon, etc) -- even if they had to give some bits back later. Not that I can talk. A draw with a GM, and I've forgotten it. But that's the essence of the lesson: don't be like me. I'm sure Josh would approve... |
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Mar-20-07
 | | Domdaniel: ... and that was my 5000th post ... |
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Mar-20-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Ziggurat> Many thanks for that *extremely* kind offer ... not right now, all the same, as I'm currently surrounded by unread books -- something to do with amount of time spent here, I suspect. But I may take you up on it at some later date. Thanks. |
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Mar-20-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Dom> congratulations, master domo!! You will soon catch <Acrice> and be the boss of this place!! Ahhh <Boethius> and his beloved <Fortuna>... <DomDaniel> shut down, imprisoned like <Boethius> in apparent ignonioninimony, only to rise Phoenixishly to not only get one of his games in the <CG.com> database, but to continue his rise to the apex of kibbitzing glory!!! All hail the <Dominate>! May he continue to be <luckier than Augustus, better than Trajan>... Yer humble protege, about to post next with inquires about <synchronicity> and coincidence-- with a <red face>, it turns out.... |
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Mar-20-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Dom>, I was just about to post here before I saw your <5000th>... And I have questions about <synchronicity>. When we experience what we call <synchronicity>, do you think there is a metaphysical, or at least unknown-to-science, force in operation, or do we merely notice coincidences? Here is why I ask, conveniently numbered for purposes of orderlinessosityness... 1. I went through the <Morphy> game last night, reading <Fischer's> notations, finding a great move against the <Philidor>. I immediately post here, crowing about beating someone with the move. 2. You direct me to the VERY game I had mistaken for <Fischer's>! 3. Flush with Yahoo victory (8 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss against equal or better rated players last 10 games) yet again--- I decided to play another game today (usually I play one per day)---And of course, he opens with the EXACT SAME MOVE SEQUENCE as my previous game today, allowing me to play my newly beloved <Bc4>... 4. Naturally, as your Chess Protege and ecstatic once again, my first impulse was to post in your forum crowing yet again... Only to 5. Run smack into your post telling chessplayers to try to reconstruct their last game from memory before exulting and crowing... Then, red-faced, realizing that I remember the game I just played in broad strokes, but also realizing that I could not reconstruct the move sequence from memory!!! Is this just coincidence, or are GRAND MYSTICAL FORCES at play? I need to know...
Ms. Nostradamus
Pierre, One of the Dakotas
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Mar-20-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: And can't resist just one more self-aggrandizing post, God help me... But a protege wants to please her mentor--
My <composite> (averaged rating of all my Yahoo IDs) is now just a tad shy of <1700>-- I never believed this would happen--- I'm considering joining an OTB chess club... There's one about 45 kilometres downriver that meets every Monday Night... I've never played at a chess club in my life!! But I feel ready now... (practices steely <Mikhail Tal> glare in mirror) Thanks so much for your encouragement and <mentornessishness>, <Dom>!! |
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| Mar-20-07 | | Eyal: <Dom> Congrats on breaking the 5000 barrier - a bit more effort and determination, and you'll overtake User: chessgames.com itself and get into the top 25! |
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Mar-20-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Jess> The short answer is: we notice coincidences. We're wired that way. No mystical explanation needed. Which doesn't stop it being a fascinating phenomenon... watching it happen in oneself... seeing people suckered by it into truly alarming belief systems... seeing the famously weak human grasp of statistics lead to magical thinking way out phase with current 'realities'... Example. I hadn't consciously thought about Faulkner in ages. There was one exception -- a couple of months ago I found a Wm Burroughs reference, where he wrote that Faulkner's brother was the narc squad detective who busted him in New Orleans, sometime around 1948-49. An innaresting angle, if true. Which Faulkner, one wonders, was the black sheep of that family? So a friend and I spent an afternoon online chasing it down -- the friend, John, plays chess pretty well, is writing an MA thesis on certain writers mentioned here, and is much better than me at finding web stuff. But we found little. Weird blogs where the words Faulkner, William, Burroughs, police, heroin, bust, New Orleans and Mississippi Vice etc can all occur in the same sentence but yet have nothing at all to do with the topic. I haven't read any Faulkner biographies, either. But the story rings true. Burroughs described the incident in 'Junkie' without naming the cop -- it was only years later he told someone 'by the way, that was Wm Faulkner's brother... not a bad guy, for a narc, and at least he knew what a typewriter was and why a citizen might possess one...' End of incident. Then I see Faulkner in your list, find a copy of 'Go Down, Moses', ask your advice, etc. Since then, Faulkner refs have been coming at me from all angles. Some, like Robert Anton Wilson (who wanted to sell me his Apple Mac around 1990 when he was moving back to the USA from Dublin... I turned him down... long story, but it's the nearest I came to owning a famous writer's instrument...) actually mention Go Down, Moses... und so weiter. The Number 23 stuff is similar.
23 (neither too big or small, too common or unusual) works because, once you draw a person's attention to it, they tend to see it everywhere. This actually happens. It's exacerbated by the fact that the aforementioned Burroughs and R.A. Wilson were icosatriologists (though the word itself, I think, is mine)... but since Hollywood found out, the whole thing has gone stale. Though the psychology experiment might still work with some other number. I reckon all such stuff is the brain's pattern machinery in action. Chessplayers and paranoids have good pattern detectors, making Bobby Fischer a giant. Some people -- and I'm probably safe in including you and me in that list -- have some sort of hypertrophied pattern capacity. In another era we'd have founded empires or religions, become major philosophical figures or been burned at the stake. In this our secular age, we do Frogspawn. But I gotta plan to expand the Empire of the Frog Sensei ... keep checking out those website concepts ... it could be time to *act*... And that's the <short> answer? Hmm, Jessica, your friend seems the talkative type ("yeah, he'll TALK AT anyone and I'VE had enough...") |
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| Mar-20-07 | | Eyal: Miller: A lot o' people don't realize what's really going on. They view life as a bunch o' unconnected incidents 'n things. They don't realize that there's this, like, lattice o' coincidence that lays on top o' everything. Give you an example; show you what I mean: suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness. ("Repo Man") |
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Mar-20-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Eyal> Thanks, but extra effort might be needed there. I think CG have become more interventionist recently, after a long period of just using it as an 'official handle' for announcements etc. But even if they accelerate there are others who can be overtaken. Before Jessica zips past me at twice the speed of light. Oh,wait, isn't that due to happen... yesterday? Damn these time equations, Dr Einstein? What happens when the infamous Fitzgerald Contraction gets us, huh? <Jess> --
<only to rise Phoenixishly>
River is alive? Sweet Aphrodite and Apophis, 'tis a miracle, praise the gods! [*been watching Stargate again, for glimpses of BC-in-the-next-galaxy*] |
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Mar-20-07
 | | Domdaniel: ... like the cloud fetishist who watches golf on TV all day for those occasional glimpses of a fetching strato-cumulus in the background when the balls go up in the air... |
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