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Apr-01-07
 | | Domdaniel: The Shulman game ... hmm ... let me sleep on that one ... you sure a late arrival won't be resented...? Actually, I just discovered that my April Fool variation 1.Nf3 Nc6 2.a3 isn't even a novelty -- it was played a couple of times in the 1990s. Plus a few more that transposed from 1.a3. It's not really self-pity. It's the observation that, if you worry too much about losing, you'll draw too many games. And, oddly, I don't mind the last-round loss: he played very well and got a nice attacking gem to take home. Wish it had been me, is all. And it may help to cure me of the delusion that people with ratings below a certain point aren't capable of playing well. |
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| Apr-01-07 | | Eyal: Hi <Dom>, sorry about your disappointment. Btw, speaking of corr. games in progress, there's also the new Chessgames Challenge: Battle of the Brains, 2007, which is turning into quite an interesting Grunfeld (though that's without engines, and I know that if you join you might end up in the other team again...) |
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| Apr-01-07 | | WBP: <Dom><And ratings can't be trusted at all anymore> So true, so true. I learned that a few years back--it's all so confusing! |
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| Apr-02-07 | | achieve: Well done <Dom>, you can be proud of yourself. You practiced *courage* in a way. ( in several ways, in my view). If you get into the action more often and ignore any significance of ratings, (why bother.. really..), you'll be having lots of fun, get better, and meet the occasional great talent. Analyse afterwards.. etc. Seems all good.. |
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| Apr-02-07 | | mckmac: <Domdaniel> <...it may help to cure me of the delusion that people with ratings below a certain point aren't capable of playing well.> This is not always true,but it is true enough to sustain the competitive spirit in this average player,and I suspect many like me. "When a strong player sits down to play you,and he sees only a weak player across the table,send word,you might be late for dinner." The Casual Chessplayer's Canon (Patzer's Reprint.2008.) |
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| Apr-02-07 | | Elixir of Life: <Domdaniel: The Shulman game ... hmm ... let me sleep on that one ... you sure a late arrival won't be resented...?> Hi Dom, PLEAASSSEE join! Our team would welcome you!! I mean, just at least take a peek! C'mon, it won't cause any harm! |
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| Apr-02-07 | | Knightlord: <you sure a late arrival won't be resented...?> Of course not, you're very welcome. Actually if you don't join us, I will attack you with a raspberry :-) |
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Apr-02-07
 | | Domdaniel: Actually, I think it *was* self-pity, and whining as well. Inexcusable. I had an interesting chat with a fellow 'returnee', also back in tournaments after a long gap. We agreed that we were neither teenagers (for whom competitive activity is linked to hormones, or something) or retired old folks quietly pursuing a hobby -- but somewhere in between. And we know we're not going to suddenly become GMs, so the point is to try to play interesting games. So my two losses were actually more interesting than two of the draws. They, the draws, were just tiredness and bad karma. Or bad (chicken) korma, even. Last year, I'd actually been playing chess -- both with engines and friends -- for a few weeks before playing in a tournament. This year, I hadn't actually played at all. And you need to play to stay sharp. I also learned I've become a soft-hearted old git who can't refuse draw offers from small children. Especially when I know that my maneuvers confuse me, and must totally bewilder them. Except for the wide-awake alert ones who see through the bluff and tear me apart. Basta. The trick is more chess -- live, dead, OTB, UTT (under the table), online, in a club, in a bar, anywhere. I'm still sleeping on the Shulman question, btw. But the no-engines team game isn't for me, I think. Too much like hard work. |
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| Apr-02-07 | | WBP: <Dom> as one seriously considering wading out once again into the ever-treacherous waters of the chess tournament, I am greatly interested in all you've said about your tournament experience. It sounds as though you had some good highs and some disappointing lows. (That is actually how I recall my own experiences in tournys in New York in the '80s). I liked the conversation you had with the other "returnee." Congratulations, though, on going out and doing it! (I know that most of my posts have not concerned chess, but I go to this site first and foremost for the chess--games, analysis, and chat.) |
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Apr-02-07
 | | Domdaniel: <WBP> Do it. Of course there are moments when you look up from the board and think "Am I crazy? What kind of idiotic way is this to spend a weekend?" -- but, on the other hand, OTB tournament play is the real thing. The raw uncut chess experience, better than any substitute. And even if your own play horrifies you, there are always other games to watch. There was a fascinating king hunt on the board next to me in round one. Rook sacs, black king drawn out somewhere daft like d4, various missed wins, and finally the attacking player got so focused on his own attack that he missed a cheapo and got mated himself. "Wild west chess", I heard somebody call it. |
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| Apr-02-07 | | mack: God I've missed this place. It does seem to be the best way for me to get over me woes, too. Have I missed much? |
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| Apr-03-07 | | WBP: <Dom> <Do it> Yeah, I really want to. Your accounts over the sourse of several posts have definitely caused me to want to get into it again (I've never played online). There's a tourny in Albuquerque in June--maybe I'll start prepping! I don't have any kind of an engine (though I think my Chessmaster computer has something like that, where I can set up positions--to complicated for me to figure out how to get it going), but brushing up on some openings (from books and this site) and playing through some games (Tal, Alekhine) may be just enough to fool me into thinking I'm ready! |
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| Apr-03-07 | | Marco65: <the delusion that people with ratings below a certain point aren't capable of playing well> I went back to tournaments 4 years ago after almost 20 years of complete abstinence. The first thing I learned is to pay respect to any player. In theory, anybody does. We all start thinking "yes, he is 400 points less than me, but be careful! anybody can be dangerous", but as soon as we notice an imprecision in his play, say, blocking his c-pawn with the knight in queen pawn openings, intentionally making bad his own good bishop, and our respect goes away. Unfortunately, our attention goes away as well, and we start playing "hope chess". Making tricky moves that are good only if not answered properly. We quickly find out that one doesn't need to be a positional expert to see and properly meet stupid tricks. I don't know if this is your case, but this was mine, and I'm happy I had enough intellectual honesty to admit it and fix this problem. Now, I'm well known among my chessmates for almost never losing against a lower rated player, in spite of my aggressive and chaotic style (last but one tournament: 4 wins 2 losses; last tournament: 2 wins 3 losses - no draws!). Unfortunately, I almost never win or draw against a stronger player! But that's another story. |
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| Apr-03-07 | | WBP: <Marco> <Unfortunately, our attention goes away as well, and we start playing "hope chess". Making tricky moves that are good only if not answered properly. We quickly find out that one doesn't need to be a positional expert to see and properly meet stupid tricks...I'm happy I had enough intellectual honesty to admit it and fix this problem> Indeed! I 'fess up, too. It's always so tempting to try to play the "person" (i.e, a rating) rather than objectively. I've always been a highly aggressive and adventurous player, saccing and taking great risks, but though this has reaped me some successes against higher rated players, it's also occasionally cost me against lower rated players. I'm trying to cultivate a more passively-aggressive style against my computer, sometimes playing openings I don't usually play that are designed to rein in such truculent tendencies. |
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| Apr-04-07 | | Plato: <<Maybe I should stick to engine-assisted corr games, where braincells don't suddenly blow fuses.> The Shulman game is beginning to become quite interesting :-)> As are my games with <RookFile>, if I may say so myself! There is definitely something to be said for "Freestyle" correspondence games. They are much more relaxing, you don't have to worry about blundering away an otherwise well-played game, the quality is invariably very high, and you end up learning a LOT if you take it seriously. I play many different kinds of chess games (although I have sworn off blitz for the time being), but what's most important to me will always be my results in OTB tournament games. Still, I'm planning to play more correspondence games like the ones I'm involved in against <RookFile>, because I'm learning so much (especially about the themes and ideas behind certain openings) and I'm sure that such games can and will improve my "real chess" strength in the long-term. |
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Apr-04-07
 | | Domdaniel: <all> Food for thought, definitely. Having been guilty of both kinds of rating-related error over the weekend -- too much respect for the opponent, and too little -- I'm not actually sure which is worse. Case A. I'm playing a young guy with a 2300 rating and a master title in the mail. Everyone tells me he's a tactical wizard. I get a quiet balanced game from a French Tarrasch, and then he throws his last three pieces, Q, R & N, at my king. I can play ...Be6, pinning the knight twice, but letting him play Rg3xg7+ -- then, after I play ...Kh8, all his pieces are attacked and he must lose the knight. I looked at this for 20 mins, could see nothing wrong -- but just refused to believe he could have done it by mistake. So I made a 'safe' defensive pawn move, and eventually lost a pawn ending by a single tempo. I fed the position to Fritz afterwards. I should've played the winning ...Be6. Apart from win/loss considerations, it's aesthetically more attractive. And maybe he'd have found a meta-Fritzian super-tactical way to mate me after losing a piece, but so what? Case B. Another French, an Advance. I actually encourage my 1570-ish opponent to launch a kingside attack, having prepared a complex, trappy response. I play it. And he outplays me in the complications. So, yes, these actions are idiotic. But I don't think you *can* simply play the board. My opponents weren't doing so -- the ones with significantly lower ratings offered me draws, while the higher guy kept chasing a win literally to the last pawn. As for somebody playing ...Nc6 in a closed opening? I've played that. And one guy who played it against me used to win tournaments playing the Chigorin to 1.d4 and the Nimzowitsch Defence to 1.e4, both with an early ...Nc6. I don't think you can read anything at all into opening moves. An unfamiliar move, at my level, can be either a master-style piece of home preparation or an amateur-style memory lapse. Anti-positional moves in the middlegame are a different story. But I think that belief in the eternal verities of chess, or adherence to maxims, is actually one of the main weaknesses of the 'amateur' game. We all know about strongpoints and pawn complexes and combinations. If we lose material we either resign or go downhill with rational 'good' moves-- a master in a similar situation can whip up a thunderstorm. |
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| Apr-04-07 | | Plato: <Domdaniel: As for somebody playing ...Nc6 in a closed opening?> You know which line I like to play ...Nc6 and willingly block my c-pawn? It probably won't come as a surprise to you -- it is a variation in my beloved Winawer: 1. e4 e6
2. d4 d5
3. Nc3 Bb4
4. Nge2 Nc6!?
I have had good practical results with this move and trust it completely. |
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Apr-04-07
 | | Domdaniel: <WBP> Last year, to 'get in shape', I played a lot of practice games with an engine -- not Fritz, but a version of Ruffian that in theory can be set to play at various rating levels. One experiment involved alternating two identities for myself -- one opened 1.e4 and played gambits, the other 1.Nf3 and played my usual more positional style. The gambiteer was more successful at the lower settings, usually winning quickly. But for anything over 2000 my positional play worked better. Not sure if all this actually taught me anything, though. |
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| Apr-04-07 | | WBP: <Dom> Your game with the 2300 guys is particularly instructive in this regard--and we've all been in that position: "I can't play the tempting such-and-such, which appears to win material, because my (much) higher-rated opponent has surely seen it and has a hidden resource," when, in fact, he doesn't. I believe the real heart of the matter is in <But I think that belief in the eternal verities of chess, or adherence to maxims, is actually one of the main weaknesses of the 'amateur' game.> Although hose verities and maxims are, on the whole, pretty sound, there are definitely points in games where the occasion demands they be ignored or transgressed. Knowing when and how to do that is, it seems, what distinguishes the stronger player from the weaker. |
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| Apr-04-07 | | Plato: <But I think that belief in the eternal verities of chess, or adherence to maxims, is actually one of the main weaknesses of the 'amateur' game.> This insightful comment was written by <Domdaniel>, but it might as well have been written by John L. Watson, too, who expresses similar sentiments in his superb book <Secrets of Modern Chess Strategy: Advances Since Nimzowitsch>. People like Jacob Aagaard (who I'm not a fan of) have tried to argue with Watson on this point, but none too successfully in my opinion. |
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| Apr-04-07 | | WBP: 2300 GUY (dammit!--not <guys>). Lazy friggin' fingers. |
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Apr-04-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Plato> That's one I've never tried, but it's a long time since anyone played 4.Nge2 against me. Right now, I think I need to reconstruct my approach to the Advance variation. I used to have a huge plus score with it, but that was mainly because stronger players tended to avoid it -- which is no longer true. I've tried both the Wade line with ...Qb6, Bd7-b5, and the variation with a quick ...Nge7-f5, but I'm not really happy with either. And it has now been played against me twice, each time in the last round of a tournament by an attack-minded opponent. In the past, I sometimes used the slow Petrosian-style lines, with ...b6 or ...Qd7 before ...c5. But I suspect that direct play is better. Maybe it depends on the opponent, too. |
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| Apr-04-07 | | Plato: <Domdaniel: That's one I've never tried, but it's a long time since anyone played 4.Nge2 against me.> Yes, admittedly most of my experience with the line came from my days of ICC blitz (which ultimately became too addictive and harmful for my real chess, so I gave it up). But a couple of people have played 4.Nge2 against me in tournament play as well, and both times I got the better position from the opening (my opponents were rated slightly lower than me, but still... I would like nothing more than for a USCF master to use that line against me as White in tournament play). Speaking of Watson, 4...Nc6 is a line which Watson (a.k.a. "God of the French Defense") recommends. <Advanced Variation> I've always preferred the natural and direct 3.e5 c5, 4.c3 Nc6, 5.Nf3 Bd7. If memory serves, I believe that is called the "<Spassky-Lein variation>." |
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| Apr-04-07 | | WBP: <Dom> Yeah, I may be fooling myself with this computer experiment. But I am trying to cultivate a less violent approach to things. I actually now enjoy a tight, almost resticted position (as either white or black)--something to "break out of," which again, was never my tendency before. A player I have the utmost respect for is Spassky, whose style is of course revered for its multi-facet quality. |
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Apr-04-07
 | | Domdaniel: <WBP> In my experience, playing positionally - which doesn't mean blandly - has two disadvantages in weekend tournaments: (1) You can achieve a huge positional plus by move 20 or 25, but not have the time or technique to convert it into a win. I've drawn a lot of games this way -- in the days of adjournments and slow endings they'd be winnable, but a blitz finish means either an agreed draw or a clock lottery. (2) The available role models are mainly GM games played at a more civilized tempo. When you try to gradually increase the pressure while keeping the position closed and most of the pieces on the board, it's very easy to go wrong. I'm not saying pure tactics are any easier, but at least there are tangible threats and attacks -- unlike a tension-filled position where chaos could suddenly break out in six different ways. OTOH, a kind of chaotic positional style is what I know best. Trying to play either safe-positional or pure tactics would just land me in situations I don't understand very well. I think it's probably important to use any perceived advantages you have. Even if that just amounts to experience of certain kinds of position. |
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