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| Apr-22-07 | | Eyal: <a great quote from <Borges>...>
Here's the complete poem:
CHESS
Faint-hearted King, sly Bishop, ruthless Queen,
straightforward Rook and deceitful Pawn -
over the checkered black-and-white terrain
they seek out and begin their armed campaign.
They do not know it is the player's hand
that dominates and guides their destiny.
They do not know an adamantine fate
controls their will and lays the battle plan.
The player too is captive of caprice
(the words are Omar's) on another board
where black nights alternate with whiter days.
God moves the player, he, in turn, the piece.
But what god beyond God begins the round
of dust and time and sleep and agonies?
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Apr-22-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: What a great <Pram>!! This <Borges> fellow certainly can turn a phrase. Thanks to you and <Eyal> I'll be reading <Borges> this summer for fun. Didn't he write in <Spanish>? Or did he write in <English> as well? Reason I ask is, what is the Spanish word for <adamantine>? You have to like any work that has <adamantine> in it. Or <Mepamorphisis>, for that matter. Jess of the Crabby Old Batte |
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Apr-22-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Thanks to you and <Dom>, rather. This us each having our own forum is confusing.
Why don't the three of us amalgamate and make one GIANT FORUM? Bill could join too since he don't wanna start his own. I say we all quietly disband our fora and post only at FROGSPAWN- THE magazine that thinks your'e a bleedin frog, for Cripes Sake. just saying |
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| Apr-22-07 | | Eyal: <Why don't the three of us amalgamate and make one GIANT FORUM?> What a dizzying prospect... The Spanish word in the original for <adamantine> is "adamantino" - heh. |
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Apr-22-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: LOL adamantino
Reminds me of something my Dad used to say all the time whenever I'd complain about something, when I was a kid: <Well Jess, you know what they say in the Mexican Marines: El tuffo crappo> LOL Good old Dad!!
(he never learned another language. If American was good enough for Jesus...) etc. etc. of the Yard
Gone insane Division
Ahhhhhhh |
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Apr-22-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Adamantino> Wasn't he a midget Mexican punk singer? Looked kinda like Spike the Vamp out of Buffy, but only six inches tall? Nice Duchamp quote, btw. I don't recall seeing it before, but then I don't recall my own name at times. Speaking of Conrad, what's the current academic stance on <The African-American Chap of the Narcissus>? Is it simply unspeakable under its original name, has it acquired a new one, is it spoken with a special inflexion, or has it been erased from history? One of Agatha Christie's books got renamed two or three or ten times: Ten Little African Americans, Ten Little Native Americans, Ten Little First Peoples, Ten Little Mexican Midgets Named Adamantino, And Then There Were None. Not surprised, really. |
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Apr-22-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Jess> Well, the light is 'within a foot of his eyes' when he says "I am lying here in the dark waiting for death". Apart from perception of the light - which is ambiguous, as he could be referring to the darkness prior to Marlow's arrival with a candle - I, um, can't see anything else *literally* wrong. Plenty of things I could *question* (I, I am, I am lying, I am lying here, und so weiter), but only in an ultra-nitpicking way. For example, Marlow says "his was an impenetrable darkness" -- therefore he couldn't have seen the candle, could he? So he was lying in the dark after all... Maybe that's what Frogs do, nitpick. Derrida certainly did. As it says in the Latin Bible (Matthew 13, if you must know): 'Semen est verbum Dei'. |
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Apr-22-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Jess> This one has that special lunatic quality which only the best typos and laskeringlesianisms share: <"mademen of a certain quality">. If I read you right, you're saying that Duchamp said chessplayers were cloudy mobsters ... capo di capo di strato-cumulus ... cirrus mafiosi ... Wiseguy, old Marcel. |
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Apr-22-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Dom> good work, half points though. <Marlowe> mentions that <Kurtz> was sitting upright in the glow of a lamp when he said he was "lying in the dark waiting for death." Hence, two factual errors. He was not lying down and he was not in the dark (within the logic of the novel's world, or- <diagesis>, which I used correctly btw)... and of course it's meant metaphorically.
Maybe you get 75% then.
He means he has been lying the whole time he was out there in the bush "getting himself adored" rather than helping the natives. This is the penultimate epiphany, when it dawns on <Kurtz> the truth of the matter- he is not grand, special, or talented, but rather monstrously evil. He did not know this about himself. He gains this self-awareness just before his death, and it is the self-awareness that leads <Marlowe> to prefer <Kurtz> over the other ivory traders. They are just as evil, BUT THEY LIE.
Kurtz finally sees and tells the truth.
So he's better.
As Marlowe says, "He had something to say and he said it." Case Closed.
Jess of the Yard
Narrative Closure division
Heavy Entertainment Squad
Flying Squirrel unit. |
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Apr-22-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Jess> Quotes from Duchamp *and* Borges? That sounds like my kinda chess book ... who's it by? |
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Apr-22-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Re <Duchamp> What does he know? He put a toilet in an Art Gallery. Actually, that's pretty funny if you think about it.
OK I changed my mind.
Crazy Olde Batte
Constantly phoning to complain
County Cork, Leopoldville |
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Apr-22-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <@#$%*& of the Narcissus> is still in print with the correct title. Jess of the Poltically Correct Incorrect.
Special Insane old Batte who should be put in a Old age home or a ice floe division. WATCH IT!! |
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Apr-22-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: That's illuminating: the Conrad story can be published still, but the word cannot be typed in this forum. Well, let's not get you into any more trouble.
I'm pretty sure you can't get in trouble for something already published for school kids etc. Hello, God, It's me Margaret. |
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Apr-22-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <The Chess Artist> by <J.C. Hallman> One of the best books about chess + politics I ever read- better, I think, than <Fred Waitzkin's> very fine <Mortal Games> I recommend this book highly
(you should read it on an airplane)
HAHAHAHAHAHA
sigh |
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Apr-22-07
 | | Domdaniel: OK, so I'm being a Stoic on the Danube. Why should I want to see my family? They'd just get in the way. And I show kindness to others, when I meet them. But that's not often ... out here, it's mostly just those Syzygy guys, and they don't count. Off with their heads. Not that the Xtians were any nicer. As Saint Thomas wrote "Dear Mom, I put a couple of people in Hell today". And as for 'Saint' Cyril, Hypatia, and the oyster shells ... unspeakable monstrosity, and no way to treat a Neo-Pythagoran. |
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Apr-22-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Jess> Answers and Oracles and such all very scrambled at the moment. Yes, you used "diegesis" 100% correctly, but you spell it "diagesis", unlike both me and my Chambers dictionary. Has it split into two variant modes in mid-Atlantic, or maybe E/W of Newfie Land? Or is they two different words? Intradiegetically yrs
An unreliable narrator
Timofy Pnin |
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Apr-22-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Jess> I'm trying to imagine an alternate reality where, through some quirk of history, it's the *other* n-word that becomes unsayable. - You can't say 'Narcissus' in here, even if you *are* a botanist! It's, it's, it's... narcissistic, is what it is! Obispo San Narciso |
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Apr-22-07
 | | Domdaniel: <"Lying in the dark"> Earlier, I claimed to have beaten a large ocean-going liner in a game of chess. "I won against Qe2", I said. "The fleet is all lit up" ... "it's like fairyland" ... as some famously inebriated announcer once said on live radio. In a new spirit of truth and accuracy in frogspawning, I would like to admit that I was being economical with the actuality. My game with the ship was a draw. |
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Apr-22-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Kurtziana>
"The last word he pronounced was - your name".
That's a Marlovian white lie, of course, a piece of posthumously polite hypocrisy to spare Kurtz's Intended from the Horror. Unless her name actually *was* The Horror... |
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| Apr-22-07 | | Eyal: <One of Agatha Christie's books got renamed two or three or ten times...> The novel was originally published in 1939 in Britain under the title <Ten Little @#$%*&s>. For the US edition of 1940 the title was changed to <And Then There Were None> (the last words of the nursery rhyme), which I believe is used today in nearly all English-language editions. In 1965 the title of the British edition was changed to <Ten Little Indians>, which was also the name given to several films based on the novel. The word "@#$%*&" (or its versions in different languages) survives, however, in the titles of many translations - such as the French one (<Dix petits nègres>), and in the novel itself - in my HarperCollins edition, at least, the island is called "@#$%*& Island", and the quoted poem also uses the word @#$%*&s throughout. Hmmm, that turned out a much funnier post than I intended (graphically speaking, at least). |
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Apr-22-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Her name was <Horror Bakersfield> as a matter of fact. Your'e a quick study on the <HOD> front <Dominus>. when asked by an interviewer (such as yourself) if his experience in the Congo was really as bad as portrayed in <Heart of Darkness>. Conrad, who rarely gave interviews (to non Irishmen anyway), tersely replied: <"It was worse.">
<Eyal> that's the funniest post ever and it's going in my profile, if that's safe. I figure what's the worst they could do? close down my forum? They wouldn't dare! Right <dom>?? Cripes.
Anyhoo I've gone insane, apropos of nothing- nice pun on the <made men> there- I wotched <Goodfellas> on TV for the fortieth time last night. You should see <The Long Good Friday> Dom if you haven't, it's brilliant and for my money the best <British Gangster> flick yet made- better than <Lock Stock> even. <diagesis>.
The <Vaginanary> does not <vaginate> words. Rather, it simply records their usage over time. Usage must begin with one use. Ergo, by spelling it <diagesis> I am beginning a trend that will result in my spelling becoming included in the <Vaginationary> by the year 3111. Insane Olde Batte
TM |
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| Apr-22-07 | | WBP: "The only people who are worth knowing are either saints, scoundrels, or madmen; at least their coonversation is always interesting. Sensible people are dull by definition."
Huysmans, THE DAMNED
<Dom> I think your site is turning into a haven for these types. P.P.S. In order to properly post some of my recent games, I may open a forum soon. That, and to make the CG police work even harder. |
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Apr-23-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Well done <Bill>
"Something Funny Happened on the Way to Bill's forum" HAHAHAHAHAHAH
GET IT???
HUGH HEFNER
Has Five Blonde Girlfriends
Read it and Weep |
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| Apr-23-07 | | WBP: <Dom> <"I won against Qe2", I said> Yeah, I thought that a bold claim; but then again, I beat my car in a game of Trivial Pursuit the other day (it forgot who General Fitz-John Porter of the Union Army was), so who knows. Actually, I find that computers invariably transpose the Tchigorin (on the black side) into a kind of closed sicilian--setting up a dragon-like configuration (bishop posted on g7) with a fight to control the d4 square. <Jess> Just got back from the building site for my forum. We're installing metal and vampire detectors--just in case. I'm also having a lounge and gym installed. And I am also putting video cameras in the lavatories, lest Kramnik and Topa want to use my forum for a rematch. |
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Apr-23-07
 | | Domdaniel: <WBP> Better watch it with those references to "coonversation" -- just look what happened to recent Narcissistic posts by Jess and Eyal. I have also beaten the space shuttle at Scrabble. |
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