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May-03-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Jess> Good question on b/w, and I don't know. But an awful lot of my favorite films were shot in b/w long after colour was the norm: Last Year in Marienbad, Dr Strangelove, Alphaville, Eraserhead ... even Cronenberg made two (non-gory) b/w sci-fi films right at the start of his career: Crimes of the Future (1970) and another one -- I've seen them just once ever, during a Cronenberg fest at London's Scala cinema, of blessed memory. <Scene: the Future. All adult women have died from using cosmetics, and the surviving men revert to primitive form...> Uh uh. Never noticed this before, but I think I slightly plagiarized him in Entropanto. |
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May-03-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Hmmm... you remember <Lindsay Anderson> refuting critics who praised him for using both color and black and white stock in the first of his <Britannia Hospital> trilogy? <Lucky Man> I believe is the film in question. <Anderson> explained that they almost ran out of money, but decided to keep filming with cheaper black and white stock. Then they got some more money and went back to color. Which made MANY A CRITIC blush!!!
Shades of the <Marshall McLuhan> cameo in the line up for the film scene in <Annie Hall>. LOL and of course <Malcolm Mcdowell> brilliant in all three films. I think the <Seinfeld> "pigman" episode was drawn from <Anderson's> trilogy. Jess of the likes talking about movies (and talking loudly in restaurants!) Heh that last one's from Monty Python, <Eyal> actually posted in somewhere a few days ago. |
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| May-03-07 | | Eyal: <But an awful lot of my favorite films were shot in b/w long after colour was the norm: Last Year in Marienbad, Dr Strangelove, Alphaville, Eraserhead ...> I think color became the clear NORM only in late 60s (at least their second half), so only <Eraserhead>'s b/w would qualify as a choice which was supposed to be highly perceptible as such. |
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May-03-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Eyal> Who is this NORM Character? Scwharzkopf?
What kind of country would make a guy named "Woodhead" a five star general? Just saying... |
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May-03-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Jess> I thought Verhoeven's The Fourth Man was amazing. (Time to try to impress Niels here with my three words of Dutch -- De Vierde Man -- ain't that impressive?) I first saw it under ideal circumstances, totally by chance, knowing absolutely nothing about it. It was on a double bill in a small London cinema with something I wanted to see -- Android, with Klaus Kinski, I think -- and suddenly there was this incredible Dutch film on screen. It almost never happens like that. As a critic you're bombarded with advance info anyway, but these days it's even harder to avoid. But when the film is really good, the pleasure is magnified by not having heard of it before. I even became a Verhoeven nut for a while, saw several of his earlier Dutch films (Spetters is good) and followed his Hollywood track from Robocop and Total Recall. Was due to interview him once, but he canceled due to LA riots. Crazy guy. The Fourth Man also features one of the classic Cheap Special Effects -- the car crash where we cut from an actor to an impaled dummy. A very obvious, very cheap dummy. Another favorite is in Reefer and the Model (1988) -- a (pretty good) Irish film by Joe Comerford. He generally makes art films, and this was the nearest he came to mainstream. So it had a plot, a bank robbery, a car chase -- but they couldn't afford to actually crash the cars they were using, so they cut from a car speeding down a country road to a shot of the same car upside-down in a field. Where it had been carefully placed by cast, crew and probably director too. Worth seeing, if you ever get the chance. Again, it had too many 'ideas' in it for the critics, so it got a bad reputation -- but did well on the festival circuit. |
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May-03-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Norm> I agree with Eyal ... the 1960s films were made at a time when b/w was still much in use for lower-budget films (mainly art or genre). And Eraserhead is clearly from the post-b/w age -- except didn't Lynch shoot it over a couple of years on almost no budget? Of course his next film, Elephant Man, is also b/w -- definitely an aesthetic choice. Sometime around then, b/w actually became more expensive than colour. The old lab processes, film stock, etc were gone -- so anyone wanting to shoot in monochrome needed special arrangements. Some films were shot with normal colour stock and printed in b/w -- but it's tricky, because the lighting is very different. I was judge at a film festival with a special prize for b/w (short or feature) around 1990 -- so there's always been a small trickle of b/w films. But only since digital has it actually become easy again -- a 'free' aesthetic choice with no real budgetary effect. Norm L Box-Orifice |
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May-03-07
 | | Domdaniel: Something short. Breaks the monotony.
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This post comes to you in black-and-white for aesthetic reasons.
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| May-03-07 | | WBP: <Dom> <Jess> <Eyal> <Norm> <Wilson> Been away for a few hours. Just looking in briefly and then have to go again (this last couple of weeks of classes--just murder!). Absolutely enchanted reading your discussion of films. BTW <Dom> agree totoally on R. Ebert ("Ebert," of course, is related etymologically to "Kurtz" [old german, "eburtz": to be obstinately stupid or opinionated]). |
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| May-03-07 | | mack: There's some fresh Bronowski material up at Winter's place. Time for bed. |
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| May-04-07 | | whiteshark: <Dom> Alternative to your <beloved SWARM -- the Swiss-Armenian Variation of the Winawer> you could play the <pure <<<frogspawn defence>>>>, consisting of the following opening moves:
1... e6!
2... d6!
3... Be7!
4... Bd7!
5... a6!
6... h6!
but there are 139 (!) other move orders for these outstanding six opening moves. Very elastic ... ...00
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May-04-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Hai> A Frog Variation with no hopping Springers? I think not. Better 1...Nc6
The "Wrong Frog" Variation... |
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| May-04-07 | | WBP: <Dom> As the Godfather of all Frogs, you surely must be kept apprised of all frog-related data. And while it is true that not all the data are worth your hearing about, I thought you might enjoy the following, which was posted at the Grudge Match by someone who has already earned a rebuke and a challenge from one of the two contestants (who posts here, from time to time; the two are also duking it out on the Morozevich page, with the Grudge Match player pretty much toying with the kibiter): <Slomarko> <Winawer variation is for dinosaurs, modernise your repertoire switch to the Najdorf> Don't know how those guys can play with this one looking over their shoulders. |
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| May-04-07 | | achieve: <(Time to try to impress Niels here with my three words of Dutch -- De Vierde Man -- ain't that impressive?)> Ik ben met stomheid geslagen, Dom! <I first saw it under ideal circumstances, totally by chance, knowing absolutely nothing about it.> Yeah, that's the best! 'Happened' to me a few times.. I remember walking around with a friend and saying Hey let's go and see that one!- its got Andy Garcia in the lead roll!
'That one' was "Night Falls On Manhattan". Very good movie and I remember being so grateful not knowing anything in advance! Verhoeven is crazy but a nice guy by now -- His latest film "Zwartboek" is very good and the lovely leading actresses say that Paul was sweet as a nut! (Blackbook for you Dom..;-) |
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| May-05-07 | | achieve: <Ik ben met stomheid geslagen, Dom!> or - "Ik sla steil achterover man!"
or, a little less excited - "Knap werk!"
The irony, Dom, here, is how probably any Dutch kid these days would react:
"Hey, cool man!" |
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May-05-07
 | | Domdaniel: <achieve> Dank u wel ... Has the pink panther been retired? I like the new image too, though. |
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May-05-07
 | | Domdaniel: A Quote.
"The Dom had absolutely no charm whatsoever, You trudged upstairs to this place that smelled of urine. It was filthy and had no lights in it..." John Cale, What's Welsh for Zen |
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| May-05-07 | | achieve: <Has the pink panther been retired?> Ditched him 5 days ago.. He was lazy, lying on his back and elbows all the looking like he was receiving a _ _. (Remember? It was just not in the picture on the right)
Since that is not representative of me at all I ran into these guys -- Haven't got a clue who they are but they seem to be OK and getting along.. <Dank u wel ...> For what? Never mind.. "Graag gedaan". (like: "You're welcome") |
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| May-05-07 | | mckmac: <Domdaniel> I came across this quote today and couldn't decide where to drop it.I guess you get it by default,or is that still just a tech - word for home base. <The whole world is burdened with young fogies. Old men with ossified minds are easily dealt with. But men who look young, act young, and everlastingly harp on the fact they are young, but who nevertheless think and act with a degree of caution which would be excessive in their grandfathers, are the curses of the world.> Robertson Davies : The Table Talk of Samuel Marchbanks |
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| May-05-07 | | achieve: OK <Dom> sorry, I've left you in the dark earlier^^ "Ik sla steil achterover man!" = I'm about to land flat on my back, man "Knap werk!" = Nice Job!
"Ik ben met stomheid geslagen" = I've been hit with a sudden inability to speak.. I think you might be ready to go places in Holland with the help of these translations! heh (I'm having fun with this nonsense - not sure if others do) On another note. Did you get to the Club(be) last night? |
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| May-05-07 | | mckmac: <Dom> We missed an easy pot in 'The Van Morrison Trivia Quest', I'm afraid..Caro-Kann = Caravan. |
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May-05-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: YOU <DOM>!!!
(still quoting <Sound and Fury>, since i just finished my honor's paper on it recently) You hung over today mate?
Try some <bromo seltzer> or <ginger ale>. Also, keep a <puke bucket> near you at all times. Do they use the expression <puke bucket> in Ireland? Jess of the quit drinking years ago.
I kept breaking out in <lampshades>!! However, I heartily enjoy the company of the soused.
Send me a email, mate!! Lemme know the "real" low-down on everything. Jess of the (fill in blank) |
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May-05-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Jess> Not at all, I'm simply not here today. I went on one of those 'simple' 3-hour-each-way train trips -- a daily commute for some people, a cross-country epic for me. The return trip was complicated, though. First the train/track/world broke down, and the passengers were decanted into coaches to complete the journey by road. Then the coach I was on got lost, and ended up in an incredibly narrow cul-de-sac with no way back out. So passengers had to get out and help. Oddly, they seemed to enjoy this. The spirit of the blitz, or the only way to meet new people in 21st century RL ... or something. I'm not even sure whether I'm really 'back' yet. I might have dozed off during my personal <Planes Trains & Automobiles> Hell ... I'm stuck on a Gaelic Autobahn somewhere dreaming of Frogspawn, while a chorus of passengers sings an old song -- by Percy French, naturally -- that goes... "Are ye right, there, Michael, are ye right?
Do ye think that we'll be home before the night?" |
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May-05-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Jess> Have you got Alejandro Jodorowsky (El Topo, etc) in your Great and Strange Film Directors Jessical Canon? "... the orgiastic spectacle of the conquest of Mexico re-enacted by toads ... Amazon women ... a Christ manufacturing yard ..." |
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| May-05-07 | | chessmoron: I have seen 'Santa Sangre' but I think Jodo is one sick puppy director (in a good way.) Heh! |
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May-05-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Dom> haven't seen <el topo> but have heard of it. LOL your journey reminds me of the <Monty Python> sketch where <Michael Palin> is obssessed with various motorways and routes in England when he goes on a trip with his wife!!! Also, the sketch where exact knowledge of the confusing commuter train schedules is key to solving a murder (<Eyal> posted a scene from that one somewheres a while ago) Good to see you mate.
Like you with your <HOD>, I've got <Sound and Fury> fever and have to physically restrain myself from yelling YOU LUSTER!!
to innocent passersby on the street. |
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