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| Jun-12-07 | | whiteshark: <<Ragh>: HEUREKA> ! I've recognized the <magic> pattern. |
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Jun-13-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Dom> check out this joke from <Niels> it's priceless!! How about this:
<Four men were bragging about how smart their dogs are. The first man was an Engineer, the second man was an Accountant, the third man was a Chemist, the fourth was a Government Worker. To show off, the Engineer called to his German Shepard. "T-square, do your stuff." T-square trotted over to a desk, took out some paper and a pen and promptly drew a circle, a square, and a triangle. Everyone agreed that was pretty smart. But the Accountant said his Collie could do better. He called his dog and said, "Spreadsheet, do your stuff." Spreadsheet went out into the kitchen and returned with a dozen cookies. He divided them into 4 equal piles of 3 cookies each. Everyone agreed that was good. But the Chemist said his Chocolate Lab could do better. He called his dog and said, "Measure, do your stuff." Measure got up, walked over to the fridge, took out a quart of milk, got a 10 ounce glass from the cupboard and poured exactly 8 ounces without spilling a drop. Everyone agreed that was good. Then the three men turned to the Government Worker and said, "What can your dog do?" The Government Worker called to his Dachshund and said, <"Coffee Break, do your stuff." Coffee Break jumped to his feet, ate the cookies, drank the milk, pooped on the paper, had his way with the other three dogs and claimed he injured his back while doing so, filed a grievance report for unsafe working conditions, put in for Workers Compensation and went home for the rest of the day on sick leave.>> ROFLOL
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Jun-13-07
 | | Open Defence: for a minute there i thought you said pawns are the endoscopy of chess... |
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| Jun-13-07 | | twinlark: Dom, Jess and all you other crazy bastards. Cyez later. |
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Jun-13-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Deffi> No... I'm pretty sure that *Bishops* are the endoscopy of chess. But nobody knows for sure. Pawns are also the innuendo of chess. If 'innuendo' is the right plural. Innuendos? Innuendi? Innuendaway? Something like that... |
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Jun-13-07
| | Domdaniel: <Jess> Easy on the funny stories, please. The stitches after 'Glorious Day in Fur & Feather Land' haven't mended yet. |
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| Jun-13-07 | | achieve: <animal Jokes>There are humorous possibilities with ingredients like "cat-scan" and "lab-test" and probably lots more..
Someone with imagination and a little more sense of wordplay than me might have a go with this. |
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Jun-13-07
| | Domdaniel: The People's Republic of Animalia -- formerly the Animal Kingdom -- is much too big for <animal jokes>. You have to restrict yourself to a few animals. Camels, for instance. Various Europeans were asked to write a short essay about camels. The Dutch entrant wrote about 'the employment of camels in land reclamation'. The Irish one chose 'the camel and its fight for Irish freedom'. And the English chap went for 'rum, sodomy, and the lash: naval tradition aboard the ship of the desert'.... |
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| Jun-13-07 | | Ragh: <whiteshark> how? |
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| Jun-13-07 | | Ragh: <whiteshark> I too tried to approach that problem, but in a different way. A simplified version of that magic square can be formed by substracting 1480028100 from each of those consecutive prime numbers. I was surprised to find that the resultant set of numbers too are all prime numbers (below). 101 29 83
53 71 89
59 113 41
By doing so, your magic square of order 3 then transposed into a quite a simple matrix. Here all 3 rows, all 3 columns and the two long diagonals added up to the same number, which is 213 for the above set. |
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| Jun-13-07 | | whiteshark: Ragh: brilliant method, great find !!
First I find out that the differences between these numbers, sorted by size (29-41-53-59-<71>-83-89-101-113), is
<12-12-6-12> before and behind the center/central number of <71> Second I build <complementary pairs> of numbers (highest+lowest number together etc) and look for their placement/configuration in the square.
All <complementary pairs> are in line (N-S/E-W) or on the diagonal (a1-c3/a3-c1). btw the sum of each <complementary pairs> is 142. 213 = 3*<71> ---
As if that would ever happen having solved this, a new question arose :
Does it work with a 4*4 or 5*5 square, too ?
Maybe I'll have time to take a look over weekend....
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Jun-13-07
| | Domdaniel: Innaresting. Seems strange to have primes bunched so closely together in the original sequence >10^10. |
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| Jun-13-07 | | Ragh: <dom> How about trying that trick with some largest known primes at http://primes.utm.edu/largest.html |
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| Jun-13-07 | | Ragh: <whiteshark> If I can summarize the initial layout to unviel the magic square.. Given a set of 9 numbers, the first thing to be done is to add them all up. And divide that number by 3. So, in our case that number is 213, say X. Your observation of <213 = 3*<71>> is noteworthy. It means that X is always divisible by 3 (in a third order Magic Square) and the result of that division (71) is always the central number in the matrix. And the next thing is to proceed from here with your <complementary pairs> of numbers strategy. I believe this is the way it works for odd-number (3,5,7..) ordered magic squares, and may be in a slightly different way for even-number ordered squares 4*4, 6*6, etc. |
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| Jun-13-07 | | achieve: KK Allow me some time..
Bug the you know what!
190 serves a valuable prime, 191, 193, 197 ,199
I am a varified luna, agreed, but why do I remember every phonenumber I ever diaeld? DOM my rescue rests on you my dear friend!!!!
I am at it As we speak.. |
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Jun-13-07
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Dom> delete <Niels'> joke from here, it's archived at my place. I shudda said: <Dom you got to check out page X of my house to see Niels' joke>. SORRY!
and SORRY FOR SHOUTING!! |
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Jun-13-07
| | jessicafischerqueen: I see you lads are at your "sums" again.
<Niels> thank you for your BEEMALE. Heh. <Niels> you figured out that <Mannbees> puzzle had a number wrong.
But I accidentally guessed the right answer.
I'm so proud!! And it was a random guess, too. |
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| Jun-13-07 | | Ragh: <achieve> May be you've got photographic memory for number patterns. As a matter of fact, I used to remember the phone numbers myself, until the cellphones came and took over the mantle of remembering them these days. <190 serves a valuable prime, 191, 193, 197 ,199 > Substract 90 from each and you have 4 more primes 101, 103, 107, 109. |
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Jun-13-07
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Dom> I'm afraid you have just been the victim of a diabolical <cabal> <conspiracy> of truly horrific proportion!! I blame society????
More on this later.. (don't be alarmed).
ALARRRRRRRM~! DIVE, DIVE |
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| Jun-13-07 | | WBP: <Dom> I posted a note to you in my house--hopt you got a chance to see it. The numbers discussion is interesting to watch--shouldn't you take it to <Eyal's> while he's away. You know how he loves numbers/numerology. Sorry to see that <Chessmoron> and <Jess> have supplanted you. Maybe I can help you, though. I'm thinking I'll start posting here the OED, word by word, with each new word a discrete post. You should demolish even the mighty Emperor A. in no time at all! |
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Jun-13-07
| | jessicafischerqueen: HEY! Who's side are you on anyways!!
Ghandi. |
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| Jun-13-07 | | Ragh: Its quite obvious that <WBP> is not on the side of those two notorious blithering spammers. |
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| Jun-13-07 | | WBP: <HEY! Who's side are you on anyways!!> The side that pays the best. |
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Jun-13-07
| | Domdaniel: <4-prime decades>, or double twin primes like (101, 103, 107, 109) and 190-97 ... these aren't very common, and get scarcer as the numbers get bigger. But I've seen some 'large' sets. Nobody has ever managed to prove whether twin primes go on forever or not. It *might* be possible to prove that these double twins - quads? - eventually run out. Far from elementary, however... |
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Jun-13-07
| | Domdaniel: <achieve> -- <why do I remember every phonenumber I ever diaeld?> I don't know. An eidetic-Jessican memory, maybe? (but 'diaeld'? hmm...) My excuse is different. I only ever dial 999 or 911 ... |
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