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Feb-14-08
 | | Domdaniel: <Niels> -- <Bill Cosby, Constipaat, Paddy-the-Fly, Marcus Aurelius Flyboy, etc>
I wouldn't worry about it. My brain does this too. It can be a creative thing. Useful, even. |
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| Feb-14-08 | | mack: <Happy Valentine's Day> Oxymoron, isn't it? |
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Feb-14-08
| | Domdaniel: Oxy-acetylene moron, in this case. Burn those cardboard hearts. |
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Feb-14-08
| | Domdaniel: "He was no saint
But he was Dutch
So he could paint
Yeah, he had the touch."
- Black Francis |
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| Feb-14-08 | | achieve: <He was no saint...> Herman Brood?? Brood would never have burnt cardboard hearts, though... Even though he must have hated Valentine's Day. |
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| Feb-14-08 | | Red October: do i detect a "Bah! Humbug!" sentiment here ? |
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| Feb-14-08 | | mack: <Dom>
Never had you down as a Pixies man. Saw them live in 2005 and gosh, Mr. Francis is a fatty these days. It looked like he was going to have a heart attack atop one of the speakers. <Valentines can't buy her> As with Shakespeare, Orwell, Walt Benjamin and maybe a select few others, there's a Bob line for every occasion. The only other 'Valentine' I can think of in the back catalogue is Miss Patty. |
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| Feb-14-08 | | euripides: <Dom> there is a related, quite interesting, hybrid that Jonathan Mestel used to play: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 0-0 5.Nf3 c6 e.g. 6.Be2 (Bd3 may be better and typically gives a KID with 6....c6) d5 7.e5 Ne4. White is likely to get a big centre and the position is usually quite unbalanced. |
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Feb-14-08
| | Domdaniel: <euripides> Ah, chess, what a relief ... I think I've seen that Mestel line, but - as a kneejerk g3 player - never paid much attention to it. I've played the White side of a lot of Fianchetto King's Indians, but very few of those Neo-Fianchetto-Slav-Gruenfeld things we were looking at. Actually, I got into trouble in one game recently where I played the King's Indian Attack and let Black build up a big centre: exactly like a classical KID reversed. And I realised I didn't understand the position very well in terms of what black might be planning. Then he hit me with a thunderbolt. |
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Feb-14-08
| | Domdaniel: <mack> Not enough of a Pixies man, certainly, to have an appropriate chunk of lyrics on the tip of my tongue. But I read them in the Guardian so they must be true, right? <Niels> Brood it is. Uncanny. |
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Feb-14-08
| | Domdaniel: Who mentioned Huckabee? That guy looks like he's holding back a powerful urge to let rip and *pollinate* somebody ... anybody. |
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Feb-14-08
| | Domdaniel: <Red> -- <a Bah Humbug?>
Not at all ... that belongs to some other time of the year. Today just requires a little logic: it isn't about love, so it must be something else. Not hate, but perhaps contempt: the contempt felt by the manufacturers of Valentinian geegaws for the suckers who buy 'em ... throw-away hearts for the transplant age. But there's absolutely nothing wrong with love. In fact, it should be encouraged, in suitable dosages to start with. |
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Feb-14-08
| | Domdaniel: Is it just me, or did the site wobble for a while there? Just when I had *another* complaint, not so much against CG as against the contents of the world's databases in general. There are too many mystery games, games that fail to make sense in some important way. Le Dinh Tuan vs R Nolte, 2001, for example. It's one of the D79 Neo-Gruen-Slav games that Niels pointed me towards. In a roughly level position it suddenly goes 0-1. A hidden combination? No way. A forfeit? The cellphone rule wasn't in force then. Probably just an old-fashioned loss on time ... both players had been making short, rapid, shuffling-type moves for some time. Or maybe another 40 moves were played at high speed. I just wish PGNs or some other system could incorporate a byte or two for this type of information, is all. |
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| Feb-14-08 | | Red October: <But there's absolutely nothing wrong with love. In fact, it should be encouraged, in suitable dosages to start with.> actually the POLITBURO discourages love and encourages Vodka |
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| Feb-14-08 | | achieve: <Today just requires a little logic: it isn't about love, so it must be something else. Not hate, but perhaps contempt: the contempt felt by the manufacturers of Valentinian geegaws for the suckers who buy 'em ... throw-away hearts for the transplant age.> How did you come up with that?
Anyway...
"at a later stage..".
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Feb-14-08
 | | Open Defence: if the feeling of love is genuine then the commercialization of Valentine's Day does not matter... |
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Feb-14-08
| | Domdaniel: <Red, Deffi> I give up, you've got me surrounded. But ... Yes, if the feeling of love is genuine then commercialization doesn't matter - since the hormones and assorted brain messenger molecules will have done their job so throughly that nothing exists outside the lover zone. I'm not cynical, am I? |
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| Feb-14-08 | | Red October: <I'm not cynical, am I?> no just typically male... I think they should distribute Red members on Valentine's day instead of Hearts since most of it has to do with a place much below the Heart ;-p |
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Feb-14-08
| | Domdaniel: <euripides> I've taken a look at that 'Mestel' line with ...c6 and ...d5. It's much more energetic than a Neo-Gruenfeld: much more like a King's Indian, in fact, but one where Black happens to make a different central pawn break from normal. Predictably, it's been used by such KID virtuosos as Nunn and Gufeld (neither of whom, as far as I can tell, much liked to play black against the Fianchetto Variation - Gufeld sidesteps it in his KID book, and Nunn took to Gruenfeld transpositions like the Baburin game). A fairly recent example: N Ibraev vs Mamedyarov, 2005 |
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Feb-14-08
| | Domdaniel: <Red> *Red members*? Umm, surely the Party has enough of those ...? |
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| Feb-14-08 | | Red October: In case you didn't notice this one on the Zappa page there's a chip arriving too late .. to save our drowning Fritz.. he missed mate in 3 and every one can see he's gonna lose a piece if he has to save his Queen |
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| Feb-15-08 | | achieve: < Domdaniel: Is it just me, or did the site wobble for a while there?> Very wobbly of late, yes... <Just when I had *another* complaint, not so much against CG as against the contents of the world's databases in general. There are too many mystery games, games that fail to make sense in some important way.> True... I've stopped "going by the percentages" in the Opening Explorer, for quite a while now... You really need to play through *every* game of relevance, which in turn then leaves us with some odd results/endings of games- and the frustration of wanting to "know more". <Le Dinh Tuan vs R Nolte, 2001, for example. It's one of the D79 Neo-Gruen-Slav games that Niels pointed me towards. In a roughly level position it suddenly goes 0-1.> It's even crazier than that; White could have won the Queen on the final 36th text-move with Rh3, upon the 35...Ra8 blunder. (I say blunder, but if there was time trouble, for both, then both blundered in time-trouble, which makes the 0-1 result seem less weird... Btw I commented on the game page) Is it a typo??
<It suddenly goes 0-1 in a roughly equal position> The yellow bastards! |
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Feb-15-08
| | Domdaniel: <Niels> You're right, of course - 36.Rh3 would have won on the spot. I, umm, didn't notice -- too concerned with looking for a *black* win. So was it a (double) typo - 36.Rh3 1-0 instead of 36.Qf2 0-1? Or a loss on time (notice how most of the later moves are quick one-square darts with big pieces, as happens in very mad time scrambles)? Or White resigns in disgust at missing a win? Or a totally corrupt score with incorrect moves and/or missing bits? Somebody oughta do something about these chessic Augean stables full of accumulated crap. CG is riddled with dubious statistics, not just the opening explorer. Like Greco as leading sac-maker, even though his games were probably composed. Or the Reti as most common opening, though most of them aren't Retis but just happen to begin 1.Nf3 before transposing ... |
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Feb-15-08
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Are you <Reti> TO RUMBLE!!??? <Chess Monster Truck Rally> SUNDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY.
We're filling Spain with MUD!! |
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| Feb-15-08 | | achieve: <Dom>-<Somebody oughta do something about these chessic Augean stables full of accumulated crap.> HAH! You're not holding back here, eh? And rightly so, although it might take more than a Heraklian effort to just get to the point of knowing the magnitude of the crap-pile... (or something) I find statistics misleading, in general, because you need an expert level of understanding, to "not be misled" by them -- which is a devious paradox -- because statistics are mostly viewed upon as a "helping tool", as it were, for non-experts to get some insight into a certain subject... Which is the exact opposite of how statistics should be used... I share your anger and frustration.
Visit the Carlsen page if you're really looking for kicks on a Friday Night. |
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