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	Later Kibitzing> |  | May-30-08 |  | Red October: the perpendicular pronoun wont be seen for a while ? |  
	|  |  | May-30-08 |  | WBP: <Deffi> <the perpendicular pronoun wont be seen for a while ?> Yes. I just hope that <Dom>'s not getting the Evil "I". |  
	|  |  | May-31-08 
  |  | Open Defence: luckily there is no <I> in <FROGSPAWN> |  
	|  |  | May-31-08 
  |  | jessicafischerqueen: Unfortunately, what is up wih this new <aramaic> font they are forcing us to use? |  
	|  |  | May-31-08 
  |  | jessicafischerqueen: I hate aramaic font. 
 Or, for Dom,
 "_ hate arama_c font".
 If times new roman was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me. Stupid Ariel font.
 Insane olde Batte,
<FRIG SPAWN>
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	|  |  | May-31-08 
  |  | Domdaniel: Indeed. Initially, ironically, impossibly, the Eye had difficulty with its Perpend-ocular Pronoun. The key in question had actually, um, melted. Careless of me. I've now swapped it with a key I hardly ever use ... one of the lesser spotted functions. Which will do as a makeshift fix until I see about getting a new I. A New I ... bliss is it in this dawn to be alive in this brave new world that has such creatures. Init. |  
	|  |  | May-31-08 |  | Red October: I thought the f key was in the greatest danger of melting on your keyboard |  
	|  |  | May-31-08 
  |  | Domdaniel: <f-key> Forsakes Fuchs! It depends where I focus my superpowered heat vision. Of course if both 'i' and 'f' melted then I'd lose the most important word in the english language: <if>. Ahhh.
 Just as long as my *asterisks* never melt ... |  
	|  |  | Jun-01-08 
  |  | jessicafischerqueen: Congratulations on finding your <eyes> again <Dom>! Perhaps you'll be interested to know that in <Korea> there is no distinction between "eye" and "eyes." They only have one word for both:
 <noon>
 Heh.
 High Noon in Korea |  
	|  |  | Jun-01-08 
  |  | jessicafischerqueen: <Chess Engines> 
 Question-report: freelance whining/bragging division. OK- a year ago I would have been THRILLED to be competitive in my current ratings range-- And yes, I feel happy that I have improved a few hundred points over the last year. HOWEVER.
 Since I've taken to analyzing pretty much all of my games with my Chess Engine, it's become painfully clear to me HOW POORLY my current opposition is playing in relation to <Shredder>. Which means I'm playing almost as poorly.
 And, in comparison to my <Shredder3>, I'm a rank amateur patzer BAD PLAYER. Whine.
 I'm consoling myself with the "knowledge" that if my <Shredder> whipped off his top in a crowded bar, nobody would look. Not so in my case.
 I haven't done this yet (well OK not since I quit drinking), but I'm certainly looking forward to it. But for how long?
 Chess Engine: can't live with it, can't ignore it.
 Stupid engines.
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	|  |  | Jun-01-08 |  | Red October: <jess> an engine has no soul, we got soul, and you even have Seoul, maybe, you should try analysing the game yourself before using the engine and then use the engine to see if you have missed improvements in your own analysis, you will be surprised that you may find that you see many of the ideas on your own after the game rather than in the heat of it - "If shredder whipped off his top he would be bald" - Zappa |  
	|  |  | Jun-01-08 |  | mack: Oh jess, forget engines. 
 One of the recurring themes of the Suttles books (which are truly excellent, by the way) is that chess, ultimately, is a game to be played between two humans.  Not only are mistakes bound to be made, but they add to the intrinsic beauty of the game, too.  The fact that some Tal's ball-busting fireworks have since been shown to be inaccurate is as irrelevant as the little-acknowledged home truth that Mona Lisa's neck is a tad too long.  Negative suggestion, neurotic spasms, deliberately colouring over the lines, ad-libbing filthy combinations, legal highs, rat infestation, nine-sided dice: these are the things that matter over the board, not (hack, spit) accuracy.  Chess is more a game of luck than ludo or Pop-Up Pirate, but fortunately in our game it's also possible to make one's own luck.  Once one realises this and tosses off those Fritz-forged manacles, then chess is a dawdle. |  
	|  |  | Jun-01-08 
  |  | Domdaniel: <Jess> Cool whine. Like Victorian railway stations and pots-calling-kettles-the-second-player (eh?), we all have to let off steam sometime. It's better than being inspissated. So I will not join the Frog Chorus of <Oh Jess dear, belay those whines for life is beautiful>. Sometimes, to bowdlerize a popular American term of disapprobation, it makes like a vacuum cleaner. <mack> Good to hear about Suttles tomes. But is chess "ultimately" a game between two humans or just "sometimes" a game between two humans? I've had opponents, lemme tell you, who seemed to belong to another branch of the primate family. Orangutans, bonobos, a gibbon or two. Some of them weren't even mammals. But most of my ancestors weren't mammals either.
 Here's my latest ruling on the topic. *Chess* is a game of skill. But all the attendant stuff -- who you play, how they play, blunders, brilliancies, soundness, the vision thing, pheronomes, endorphins, ratings, revenge, emotions, angst ... that's just like life, and mostly random. No blame. |  
	|  |  | Jun-01-08 
  |  | Domdaniel: Actually, it's innaresting to see just how bad even Fritz can still be at strategy. I've been going through two books - Raymondo's collection of Petrosian games, and 'The Ultimate Chess Strategy Book' by Romero and Gonzalez de la Nava. The latter features games derived from closed openings - English, Nimzo-Indian, QGD, etc. Every so often we are asked to choose one of three possible moves - the point being that the choices are strategic and any tactics are incidental. I find I score better than Fritz at this - even at 20-ply in quiet positions it often picks ugly, stupid moves. (Of course in tactical simulations the beast will out-calculate me every time). I've noticed the same effect in many Petrosian games. Fritz thinks Tigran is losing almost up to the point where his opponent resigns. The sad thing, I suppose, is that perfect tactical opportunism mixed with weak strategy is strong enough to beat almost anyone now. |  
	|  |  | Jun-02-08 
  |  | Domdaniel: <If times new roman was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me.> But what did the Times New Romans ever do for us?
 <Jess> - <noon>
Hmm. Is the movie High Noon popular in Korea? 
 I suspect, btw, that if your Shredder ever 'whipped its top off' people would be amazed. Chess is easy compared to top-whipping. Or do I mean top-dewhipping? Top-whipping-off?
 There must be a classical term for this, apart from the obvious "ecdysiasm". And ecdysiasts go 'all the way', or so one has heard. *Exflagelloverticism* ... is the habit of whipping off one's top. |  
	|  |  | Jun-02-08 
  |  | Domdaniel: <Jess> If 'noon' is both 'eye' and 'eyes', how do you call somebody 'four eyes' in Korean? Not to mention film titles:
The Eye of Laura Mars
 Eye for an Eyes
 Eye in the Night
 Eyes of the Cat
 Eye of a Stranger
 Eyes of the Needle
 The Eye of Hell
 The Eye without a Face
 Eyeswitness
 
 Eye (witless) |  
	|  |  | Jun-03-08 
  |  | jessicafischerqueen: <Dom>-- 
 Thanks for your kind permission to whine.
 Also, thanks tons for this:
 <Here's my latest ruling on the topic. *Chess* is a game of skill. But all the attendant stuff -- who you play, how they play, blunders, brilliancies, soundness, the vision thing, pheronomes, endorphins, ratings, revenge, emotions, angst ... that's just like life, and mostly random.> That insight, along with <mack's> makes a fine pair of mental bookends for me. I just love playing chess against humans with a time control and a board where you can scowl at them in person. I miss my club so much I can't really express it.
 My Dream- is to play at a Chess Club again and participate in Real Tournaments and get a Real Rating. The virtual world-- this I am viewing as "Chess training" for my "Chess future" as a girl who loves to play other people... Last summer I was in Paradise once a week at my Chess Club. This sounds pathetic, but really, there's no place I'd rather be than at a Chess Club. |  
	|  |  | Jun-03-08 
  |  | jessicafischerqueen: <Eye Witless> 
 heh
 How the heck do I know? <King Sejong> made our alphabet, but the origins of our language itself are obscure. I can say every single Korean word I know inside of 2 minutes and I've been here almost a year. I'M A BAD LINGUIST!! |  
	|  |  | Jun-03-08 
  |  | Domdaniel: <Jess> Nah, you're not a bad linguist. But your efforts have been concentrated on the language of chess -- so ineffable in its beauty, so vertiginous in its depth, so damn hard to reach fluency at. Also. I've never actually tried TEFL during my checkered [sic] career - apart from a brief foray into Teaching Ewok as a Foreign Language, when it was forcibly pointed out to me ("in no uncertain terms" = "in certain terms"?) that Ewok is not a 'foreign' language, but an alien one - and if I didn't know that, what use was I as a teacher. But I dimly remember that teachers like you are thought to perform better if they don't speak the pupils' first language. Because it avoids laziness and throws you back on your own resources? Is there any truth in this? I've read too many books. As a result, some stuff that I regard as "facts about the world" is actually fantasy. For example - just among the H's alone - Hobbits aren't real, and Humbert Humbert's tongue never did that three-step dance along his palate. Amazingly, Huns, Hungarians, and Haitians are real. As is Harry Kasparov. |  
	|  |  | Jun-03-08 
  |  | Open Defence: better to be a bad linguist than a cunning one.... |  
	|  |  | Jun-03-08 
  |  | Open Defence: * General Tsao * |  
	|  |  | Jun-03-08 
  |  | Domdaniel: <Jess> Your dream will come true. You will play in a chess club. If only everyone was so easily satisfied.
 Dom de Domme
Personal Secretary to
 The Wishmonger
 
 No attachments please.
 I'll rephrase that. Some attachments please. |  
	|  |  | Jun-03-08 
  |  | Domdaniel: Belated congrats to <Deffi, Sneaky, Brankat, RookFile> ... who all crashed through the 10,000 posts barrier when I wasn't looking. I now seem to be the highest one left not to have reached this landmark. And at my current rate, with over 700 to go ... I should get there sometime in late 2012. "Move with the speed of a striking slug" |  
	|  |  | Jun-03-08 |  | Trigonometrist: Hey <Dom>.. I'm new to your forum..
 You've got a great avatar..
 I'm sure you'll get to 10000 by next week if you spend an hour a day with 
<jess>...
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	|  |  | Jun-03-08 |  | achieve: "The thing to do" in these situations is to go over to their respective forums and post a Happy Belated there with lotsa exclams and in the process up your post-count. BUT THEN it dawned on me...
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