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| Jun-26-09 | | Trigonometrist: Hmm okay..
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<DID YOU KNOW:
The <<<Crypt of Civilization>>> was a time capsule that was buried the basement of Phoebe Hearst Hall at Oglethorpe University in Georgia.It will be opened in the year <8113>. Check out the contents:
http://www.oglethorpe.edu/about_us/... > |
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Jun-26-09
 | | Domdaniel: <Jess> A *simpler, older England*? Ygad. Many of us in other regions find England pleasantly simple and old as it is. Do you mean it was older when it was younger? Gadzooks. Or <God's Hooks> for verily He was into fly-fishing in Those Days (of yore). GM yclept Dom. |
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Jun-26-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Ernest Hemingway, as portrayed in Alan Rudol<f>'s fine film <The Moderns>: "Madame, you appear to have your hand on my fly pole." |
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Jun-26-09
| | jessicafischerqueen: Speaking of flies, here is one of the contents of the <Crypt of Civilization> Time Capsule <Trig> just posted about: <1 package fly swatter, coat hanger, etc.> |
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| Jun-26-09 | | Trigonometrist: I really like the idea of a time capsule...
Year 8113...
We would have learnt space colonization by then and would have forgot Earth,let alone a tiny capsule buried in it... |
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Jun-26-09
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Trig> as a scientist, I'd have thought you'd have known that by the year 8113, the Sun will have turned into a <Red Giant> and incinerated the earth. So geology is not one of your specialties then?
<Niels> has just posted a new <DID YOU KNOW> in my forum as well. |
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| Jun-26-09 | | Trigonometrist: <Jess>
I won't state that I'm spectacular at geology...
(Btw supergiants and black hole thoery don't come under geology,they are conceived under astronomy) And the fact that the sun will turn into a Red giant in 8113 is an important factor that persuades us to consider creating human colonies *far* away from the solar system and the sun... And just for the record I'm not completely ignorant of the little information that concerns the way forward for humanity...;) |
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Jun-26-09
| | jessicafischerqueen: My dear <Trig>
Modern science has disproved "astronomy."
Now we believe in "astrology," which means "the study of horoscopes." Also, the Sun will not turn into a Red Giant in 8113. At that date, it will take a short break, and then resume duties as a "White Dwarf" named Jacob Aagaaard, who is also a noted Grandmaster as you probably already know. Finally, FYI, the sun is made out of rocks.
Really, really hot rocks.
Consequently, ipso fatso, it is within the province of "geology". Which is the "study of geologists."
I think you should brush up on some of your scientific terms, and on the history of science. I happen to know all of this information because I read it on <Wikipedia> before people with brains actually started editing <Wikipedia>. |
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Jun-26-09
| | jessicafischerqueen: BTW if you're in the mood for a comedy show, check out the last page on the <Bobby Fischer page>. heh |
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| Jun-26-09 | | Trigonometrist: Yeah I think I'll take some comedy before I leave... |
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Jun-26-09
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Dom Dylan>
Did you know that "Don't Look Back" has been posted- in "Hi Fidelity"- in its entirety-- on <youtube>? More-- Three hours worth of Pennebaker film from "Don't Look Back" that was not included in the final edit is also posted on <youtube>. Here is my favorite part of the film--
<Bob> absolutely destroying <Donovan's> ego- with gestures of innocence mixed with appallingly casual cruelty- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN6g...
Pennebaker is ruthless with his camera here.
He lets it sit on poor Donovan as he realizes just how much better "Baby Blue" is than anything he ever wrote- or ever will write. Look at Donovan's eyes and body language while Bob is playing. And Bob knows it too. See him grin.
Dylan could be cruel--
However, he is the poet. Not old Donovan. |
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Jun-26-09
| | jessicafischerqueen: Here is the <youtube> channel showing the Outakes from <Don't Look Back>- they are in 17 parts- they start on this page here-
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user... ###########################################
AND....
Here is the actual film as it was originally released- "Don't Look Back" by <D.A Pennebaker> http://www.youtube.com/user/happyas... This channel has the whole film listed-
And it also has a six part "Commentary" on the film by Pennebaker himself, in which he explains what he was thinking and trying to do when he shot the original footage. In case you wanted this stuff.
Now in Black and White!! |
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Jun-26-09
| | jessicafischerqueen: And of course all of <Renaldo and Clara>- (in 57 parts!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1f9... heh- everything that ever happened-- ever-- will eventually be posted on <youtube> WHEN I PAAAAAAAAAAAAINT
MY MASTERPIECE |
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Jun-26-09
| | Domdaniel: One day everything will be different ... when you paint your masterpiece? I believe you. But the day after *that* -- celebrated in the Church of Harvey's Bristol Witnesses as *Entropanto Monday* -- everything will be just the same as it ever was. For which bounty, Harvey, we thank Thee. |
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Jun-26-09
| | jessicafischerqueen: WATER FLOWING UNDER ROCKS
You may find yourself
With a big Phrontistery
You may ask yourself
"How did I get here?" |
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Jun-26-09
| | jessicafischerqueen: I see you used <Weber> to whack <Lamont> and his ilk over the head with. Srong beer- (it's a heavy book)
Good post though, to say the least.
Bit of a "conversation stopper" though. Which is probably a good thing. I was going to add something to it or respond to it but then I realized "Weber got it right" and I shut up. Bloody good show. |
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Jun-26-09
| | Domdaniel: <Jess> Yeah, Weber was the biz. And the process he described continues. Right now, it's still infighting between those who have touched the hem of the holy garment. I think the bureaucrats take over after that. The name <Lamont> gives me two very contradictory images: Lamont Cranston, aka The Shadow, and Norman Lamont, a Chancellor of the Exchequer (or something) *under* Margaret Thatcher. She whose secret middle name must remain unspoken on these pages, yes? |
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Jun-26-09
| | jessicafischerqueen: Unspoken-
You remember I ripped that joke off of "Roger Mellie the Man on the Telly" in Viz Magazine eh? heh
Ok
1.Joan Baez in the back seat with Bob Dylan:
"Yonder stands your orphan with his gun,
Crying like a banana in the sun..."
2.Bob Neurith talking about Joan Baez, who's standing right in front of him- "She has one of those see-through blouses but you don't even wanna" HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA |
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Jun-26-09
| | Domdaniel: <Jess> -- <Yonder Stands your orphan with his gun ...> ... one of Bob's finest. That 2nd-person possessive pronoun is perfect: not just any old orphan, but *your* orphan, ie the 'you' whom the song addresses, not *you* you. If you see what I mean. And since orphans are parentless, what does it mean to be told that you have an orphan? It kinda reminds me of the time that my then girlfriend somehow acquired the nickname 'the black widow'. If she was a widow, what was I? The Ghost of Entropanto Monday? |
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Jun-26-09
| | jessicafischerqueen: Yes the use of the <2d person pronoun> as an "accusative"- Also used many times to good effect by Bob's Canadian twin brother- "But you never cared, for music,
Do YOU"
<Bob> liked to point the finger- one of the most important functions of art, arguably. Here, <David Bowie> gets it exactly right, I think- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loB3...
"Ah hear this Robert Zimmerman
I wrote a song for you
'Bout a strange young man called Dylan
With a voice like sand and glue
Some words of truthful vengeance
That could pin us to the floor
Brought a few more people on,
And put the fear in a whole lot more" |
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Jun-26-09
| | jessicafischerqueen: "your orphan"
You may recall that <George Steiner> wrote rather extensively on <Dylan> as the inheritor of the Imagist Modernist legacy of such as <Pound, Eliot,> and even <Yeats>-- Apt, I think.
Employing paradox in order to crack open the way "civilization" views itself. Grandiose stuff, but somebody has to do it. |
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Jun-26-09
| | Domdaniel: <Niels> 'Scuse the delay -- I meant to jump in earlier to say that *mien* is an English word too, although it doesn't seem to have any obvious connection with the French one. Then - as always happens with words - I stumbled across an actual example (I can't be any more apophthegmatic than this without taking the pith): "He needed a shave, and he wore the sad, swollen mien of a doctor at the end of a shift ..." (Michael Chabon, Wonder Boys)
I'd have said that this *mien* meant something like 'appearance' or 'attitude'. Chambers dictionary prefers 'look, manner, bearing' and adds a gloss to the effect that it's literary. Harumph. Oh, and it *does* seem to be from French -- the French word 'mine', meaning 'expression'. I have the mien of one who mines dictionaries for mined words to stock my mind, but they're not really mine, pas le mien ... There's a movie called <Enemy Mine>, which I always assumed was a pun. I'd like to do a sequel called *Limpet Mine*. Over the years, however, I found that nobody likes to be called a limpet, no matter how firmly attached they seem to be. - Am I seeing things?
- I should hope so. Think of the alternatives. |
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Jun-26-09
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Dom>
It's also been used, perhaps illicitly, as a kind of synonym for "wont"- "As was his mien", for example-
Although it's not quite a correct synonym.
Bloody English |
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Jun-26-09
| | Domdaniel: I know, I know. This place has gone to the dogs since the Phrogs left. Aux chiens et aux chiottes. Is there a Cryptozoologist in the house? |
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| Jun-26-09 | | achieve: <Jess: Although it's not quite a correct synonym.> A "Psynonym," perhaps?
<Dom> Merci, I even remember, following your explication, my mom used to say to me when I was in a certain "mood": "Hey, ben je weer in de 'contra-mine'?" (Are you in _____ again?) |
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