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Jun-05-11
 | | Domdaniel: Or Kiel over? |
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Jun-05-11
 | | Annie K.: Hey! :p That's not verynice, but maybe it's a venicery. You can make up for it by visiting my channel and telling me if you think I'm Doing Something Wrong.* ;) * Apart from spending time on YouTube, I mean. |
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Jun-05-11
 | | Domdaniel: I don't think you're Doing Something Wrong. That much I can tell from here. |
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Jun-05-11
 | | Annie K.: I mean the pronunciations, silly. :p |
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Jun-05-11
 | | Annie K.: Ah. Perhaps I should explain - my channel claims to be dedicated to correct pronunciations of non-English chess player names, you see. Your input would be valuable. :) |
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Jun-05-11
 | | Domdaniel: 'Silly' - now there's a word that has shed a few connotations in its time, and sprouted new ones. It used to mean happy or fortunate... |
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Jun-05-11
 | | Annie K.: Very innaresting. The opposite route to 'nice', then? We discussed *that* before:
Domdaniel chessforum <Dom: <But, earlier still, it meant 'foolish', and the original root is the Latin 'nescius', or *ignorant*. How did that drift into 'vaguely pleasant, good-natured, agreeable' ...?>> My theory was, via 'ignorance is bliss'? |
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Jun-06-11
 | | Domdaniel: Jinx. Yesterday I quote William Burroughs, and today his 'anti-chess' quote returns as homepage Quote of the day... "a virtual life's work, and what is it to absorb a man's thought and energy?" In his defence, it should be said that this is one of the very rare critiques of chess that gives the impression of knowing whereof it speaks: Burroughs has been deep enough into chess - and other addictions - to see the basic similarity. Most other 'anti-chess' stuff comes either from terminally depressed players or know-nothing bores. Chess is a game of marginal futility. |
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Jun-06-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Annie> Your schacchistic nominal orthoepy is paradigmatically paragonoid. <Bacrot> is especially tres Frog - I thought you didn't do argot. I particularly like those cases where the sounds allow the names to run into one another, stresses and stops permitting. And elision, just like real speech. Djerim Akarfiy would approve too, if he were with us. I'd still tend to put more 'oont' into the first syllable of Unzicker, but I trust your research. |
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Jun-06-11
 | | Domdaniel: Pircs on up no end, it does. Who'd have foreseen a virtual micro-TV channel devoted to the pronunciation of the names of chess players? I was recently sent a book by a friend about a beauty spot named <Loch Hyne> or <Lough Ine> ... I should try to hold a chess event there someday. |
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| Jun-06-11 | | Mozart72: <Domdaniel> Chess openings are patterns. Some patterns can be recognized by professional chess players, some patterns can not. I'm "experimenting" with new openings (step by step). Why not? After decades of "novelty seeking", the main lines of known openings become cumbersome. Fresh, simple openings are necessary; although many will not accept this fact. |
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Jun-06-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Mozart> Yes, but. Do try to understand that thousands of other people are also looking for a way to gain an edge in the opening - it's not that 99% of players just blindly follow the book lines (though many do). I don't think there *are* any 'fresh, simple openings' that haven't been tried before. There are new twists, transpositions, small margins of possibility. |
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| Jun-06-11 | | Mozart72: <Domdaniel> I agree. There *are* new twists, transpositions, small margins of possibility. |
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| Jun-06-11 | | dakgootje: What is this chess-business you two are talking about? |
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Jun-06-11
 | | Annie K.: <dakkie> I haz a feeling one of them hasn't a clue either. No, it's not you, <Dom>. ;) Laterz, I'm just on my way home now... |
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| Jun-06-11 | | dakgootje: Why do you work until about midnight? :|
Changed jobs and you are now the owner of restaurant 'Chez Chef Chat'? |
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Jun-06-11
 | | Domdaniel: Is it the game itself that generates, somehow, these dysfunctional personality subtypes? Is <Mozzer> the chessic analog of a computer virus, just as the vastly more sinister lemming was a toxic spill? Questions, questions. How about a course in Chinese pronouncings? It's way out of my league. |
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| Jun-06-11 | | dakgootje: Well, if I can do it - you can do it.. |
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Jun-06-11
 | | Annie K.: <dakkie> well, if one starts work at 4pm, and still wants a salary... ;p But I'm home late tonight, because I stopped to pick up a pizza on the way. :D Note to self - get more olives next time. Fluffy ate almost half of'em off it just now. She doesn't seem to care for the rest of the pizza, though. And she's supposedly my <more> normal kitteh... ;s <Dom> Burroughs - and pretty much everyone around him - would have been much better off if he had stuck to chess. There's probably a lesson somewhere in there. :p Thanks for looking at the clips! :)
<Your schacchistic nominal orthoepy is paradigmatically paragonoid.> Heh - Thanks!
<<Bacrot> is especially tres Frog - I thought you didn't do argot.> I don't do <ergot>, or other hallucinogens. Argot, I can try now and then. ;) BTW, <paradigmatically paragonoid> + <tres Frog> = <Arboreal Amphibian>. The math made me do it.
I'm particularly glad you liked Bacrot, btw, since somebody claiming to be French just claimed it was RONG. ;s Hey, thanks for the reminder on Pirc, also - I kinda forgot he was one of the "notoriously difficult" names - I'll have to make a video on him ASAP! <I was recently sent a book by a friend about a beauty spot named <Loch Hyne> or <Lough Ine> ... I should try to hold a chess event there someday.> An ideal location indeed! :d
Oh, speakina... I just got a notice from the post office to come and pick up a parcel. I wasn't expecting one, so - draw conclusions. I'll know more tomorrow, aifinkso. PS - if anybody wants Chinese names pronounced, I'll scream for help - maybe WannaBe will agree to come to the rescue... :) |
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| Jun-06-11 | | Mozart72: <Domdaniel> I see you like stabbing people on the back. |
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Jun-06-11
 | | Annie K.: Never fails to amaze (or is it amuse) me when somebody reads something posted on a public, Google-indexed, page, of a public, Google-indexed site, and where they had recently posted themselves (and so it's quite likely that they'd keep visiting) to boot... and then claims it was posted "behind their back". And I've seen quite a few instances of that particular brand of idiocy. |
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Jun-06-11
 | | Annie K.: <Dom: <Is it the game itself that generates, somehow, these dysfunctional personality subtypes?>> No, I know some specimens of this, and other "off" types we see here, that don't even play chess. But it does <attract>'em. ... 'No, but it certainly helps', as Euwe said. ;p
Which reminds me, who was the clever fellow who corrected 'power corrupts' to 'power attracts the corruptible'? I think it was Frank Herbert, but it's been too long. |
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Jun-07-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Moz> Those who project a persona - even inadvertently - are apt to have it discussed and dissected. I expect no less myself. Which is pretty much what Annie said.
I apologize, though, if you feel 'stabbed in the back' ... as if, perhaps, I had entered into an agreement to communicate amicably and then changed my stance. But I thought you weren't really getting the 'communication' side of things. As for openings, I had some more suggestions for you: study the existing ones, and their history - you don't have to go very deep, but it helps to understand why some moves are played more than others. *Then* check out players (Ujtelky, Suttles, Basman) who are famous for going their own way in the opening. And, if you're still determined, subscribe to 'SOS - Secrets of Opening Surprises'. A good opening has a *plan* - with every move you play you create part of a structural and developmental pattern. If you fail to contest the centre and leave holes in your position, you'll lose quickly against good players. |
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Jun-07-11
 | | Annie K.: <Dom> speakina Gaelic, check your mail plz... On other matters, as you may have noticed at my forum, I'm trying to poll more Froggiephiles about the Bacrot pronunciation, so do you really think it's good? :) You are now Pollen. ;) |
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Jun-07-11
 | | Domdaniel: I *think* it's good: better than I could do. Final 'ot' is beautiful. Mebbe some would rrrol the 'r' more, depending where they learned Frog. Also maybe some doubt over the 'enn' syllable - yours is marginally nearer 'ann', I think - which is appropriate in some words but not all. Etaoin Shrdlu.
PS. Am I to infer you had an Undeliverable return? Very weird. I'm almost always here at delivery time, and they're meant to drop a note if you ain't. Plus, the postman knows me well on account of the relatively large volumes of mail passing this way. |
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