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| Nov-03-11 | | Thanh Phan: About the Archive Press quote, some words hearsay when growing up; ~" Spies from a big country say this or that countries has weapons. That is unacceptable said their leader, they invade.
With the magnitude about equal to what Normandy invasion of the WW2 era has seen, occupied countries leader is killed Then take over the country for a decade and have their NATO back them up, willing to leave only if they adopt the government as they have,
What other nation would be allowed to do that? "~
So there might be some reasons from other countries to show frustration at~ Justified or not, that is one viewpoint |
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| Nov-03-11 | | Thanh Phan: It might not be the best way or the right way to do things,
It is scary how easy it is for some countries to invade others in their fight against terrorists The worlds police? Good or bad they have major global reach, influence, weapons and troops to bring to the worlds table |
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| Nov-03-11 | | Thanh Phan: The situation may have looks different seen from that point of view, it was still the same conflict as before It's the perception that changes how you look at the world |
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Nov-03-11
 | | Domdaniel: It is indeed the perception that changes.
But the world changes too, at many different scales.
The guy speaking in the Dalkey Archive quote is an American publisher, complaining that it's difficult to persuade Americans to read non-American authors. I saw a slightly different angle in a John Barth interview. He was talking about complexity -- and the idea that 'complexity' made a novel harder to read, less entertaining, and therefore a bad thing. Yet, he said, we admire complexity in many other areas, including sports. Chess, even. |
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| Nov-03-11 | | Bdellovibrio: normal gm + super gm + dutch = ouch
Wang Yue vs Lu Shanglei, 2011 |
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| Nov-03-11 | | mworld: so the 'evidence' would read a lot like this: what power in history was ever loved by many other govt's and countries? The almighty, is probably the only one i could ever think of, and even then, people are shocked when he doesn't come to their rescue. the only real point is that there is 'shock' when there should just be expectation. |
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Nov-04-11
 | | Domdaniel: <mworld> - <the only real point is that there is 'shock' when there should just be expectation.> This is exactly what I often find myself thinking. I suspect some of the 'shock' is just a ritual expression of dismay from people who don't think things through. And some of it, of course, is idiocy. Remember Ambrose Bierce's definition of 'prayer': < To ask the laws of the universe to be annulled on behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy> |
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| Nov-04-11 | | Thanh Phan: Evidence didn't mention that the governments might be happy with each other while the people might not be as happy toward what other countries done. Several if they talked about, express the big countries search for terror are a good idea, others took the less happy approach. The notes of hearsay was compiled from most of the frustrated talks because of the big countries belief that they could go anywhere they want Most of the shock, are from people that first hear the view-points of other countries and realize the rest of the world is not just an extension of their world, but are people that express an entire different set of suy nghĩ when they hear of invasions, wars or reasons to send troops to areas |
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Nov-04-11
 | | Domdaniel: Hmmm. This has gone off in so many directions I'm not sure I can unscramble them. I was talking, mainly, about people who say "I am shocked by X" - in any context, when it isn't real, clinical shock, but a social convention to indicate dismay. I wasn't talking about geopolitics, though that can be part of it. Zweiter punkt. The ability to see things from the point of view of other people is very valuable. It is more than a vaguely zen-hippy new-age-ish pablum: it's a survival tool. Americans, because of their history of isolationism and exceptionalism (and wealth) have a habit of not getting other points of view. Sometimes they don't even know they exist. There are exceptions, of course. |
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| Nov-04-11 | | mworld: yes it definitely splintered off in to 2 different directions. I'd say 3, but I don't think you had a direction, just literary omnipresence - rounding things out with blocks. |
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| Nov-04-11 | | mworld: <Thanh Phan: It might not be the best way or the right way to do things, It is scary how easy it is for some countries to invade others in their fight against terrorists> i agree, these dishonest pretexts take away from the grandeur of true invasions. |
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Nov-04-11
 | | Domdaniel: As in "Rossini, now that's fun. Music for those who like to enjoy life, to eat, drink and be merry. But Wagner? Even Beethoven? They make you want to go out and invade Poland." I'm paraphrasing.
< I don't think you had a direction> Just like a rolling stone. |
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| Nov-04-11 | | Thanh Phan: From Poetry to Music, many of them are beautiful, here are one written as a poem by Rasul Gamzatov before become a song Zvezda - Song ZHURAVLI (Cranes) http://youtu.be/Z6VwVnhJseE |
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Nov-04-11
 | | Domdaniel: And here is Scott Walker: http://youtu.be/jMUk1R_fKEA I saw a Knight playing chess with Death ... |
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Nov-04-11
 | | Domdaniel: In this version of "It's Raining Today" -- http://youtu.be/NV7np4lgj5I -- intro and audio from a TV show, video the usual collage of still photography -- we can see Mr Walker holding up a sign that says "Vote for Scott". Innaresting. It's just a promo device from a time in the 1960s -- when people tried to turn an introverted beatnik with the voice of an angel into a boyband. But it shows that the 'vote for' tag had some currency outside politics. And maybe helps to explain why Walker still makes astonishing music now, even when he chooses not to sing at all. How publicity scared him into recluse territory, and how voting is the last thing on his mind. Nice song, too. |
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| Nov-04-11 | | Thanh Phan: <Domdaniel> Thanks for the songs and links I have to confess there few Music in English I listen to, so my searches for possible likes are more limited Most times I prefer the ones with subs or lyrics listed or shown on screen, if a voice confuses with a dialect I are still able to continue with the understandings of the song meaning They were both of interest, offer thanks :) |
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| Nov-06-11 | | JoergWalter: <Domdaniel: As in "Rossini, now that's fun. Music for those who like to enjoy life, to eat, drink and be merry. But Wagner? Even Beethoven? They make you want to go out and invade Poland."> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF_W...
Schiller (not Eric S.) and Beethoven will rethink that one nowadays. Wagner - timeless for brave attackers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGBD... |
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Nov-06-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Joerg> -- < (not Eric S.) >
Thank you for that distinction.
For some reason, I am reminded of the apocryphal story about an Irishman who applied for a job on a building site. The foreman, having some doubts about the applicant's ability, decided to test him with a question about building materials.
"Can you tell a joist from a girder?" he asked.
"Of course I can", came the reply. "Joyce wrote Ulysses and Goethe wrote Faust. In German." |
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| Nov-07-11 | | Thanh Phan: Found uses for Siri http://io9.com/5856764/a-conversati... That story you wrote <Domdaniel> He should get hired! |
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| Nov-07-11 | | JoergWalter: <DomDaniel>
was it the same irish guy who would fly to the sun with a spaceship? only at night time, of course. are you Dave Allen in disguise? |
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| Nov-07-11 | | Running Hand: Did somebody call? |
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Nov-07-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Running Hand> No, just being discursive. But feel free to hang around. |
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Nov-07-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Bdellovibrio> Grazie ... a very interesting Dutch *ouch*. Black seems to get some initiative, but gradually runs out of steam. And when the initiative is lost, the roof caves in. The one I remember seeing, Svidler vs Williams, was more brutal. Williams played a dubious line in the classical Dutch and Svidler casually crushed him in about 18 moves. On the other hand, super-GMs from Botvinnik to Nakamura have played the Dutch, so it can't be *that* bad. |
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| Nov-08-11 | | Shams: <Juror #3:> That business before when that tall guy, what's-his-name, was trying to bait me? That doesn't prove anything. I'm a pretty excitable person. I mean, where does he come off calling me a public avenger, sadist and everything? Anyone in his right mind would blow his stack. He was just trying to bait me. <Juror #4:> He did an excellent job. |
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Nov-08-11
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