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Dec-13-22 | | technical draw: I expected more from Croatia. Argentina 3, Croatia 0. The final will probably be Argentina/France but you can never tell. Morocco might surprise. |
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Dec-13-22
 | | moronovich: Congratulations to Argentina and to you, <fussilli> ! Not so nervewrecking as it could have been ;) |
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Dec-13-22
 | | Fusilli: That was incredible!! The second and third goals were amazing! And I don't think I am being biased if I say Argentina was closer to scoring a fourth goal than Croatia was to scoring a first. |
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Dec-13-22
 | | saffuna: In baseball they sometimes check pitchers for sticky stuff on their pitching hands. They should do the same for Messi's shoes. |
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Dec-14-22 | | optimal play: Well played Argentina!
3-0 is an emphatic victory.
Not too sure about that first goal. It looked like the Argentinian ran into the goal keeper. I can understand why the Croats were unhappy about it. The second one coming off the Croatian corner was freaky. Great third goal. Brilliant lead up by Messi.
Regardless of whether they play France or Morocco I think Argentina will win the final. Everyone seems to want Messi to win a World Cup and he's played this tournament so well he deserves it. |
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Dec-14-22
 | | Fusilli: I just looked again at the recaps of Argentina v Netherlands (https://www.foxsports.com/watch/pla...) and Argentina v Croatia (https://www.foxsports.com/watch/pla...). What a great team, outstanding all around. It generated many more goal opportunities than either rival. <OP> <3-0 is an emphatic victory.> Looking at the recap, you can see Argentina was closer to a fourth goal than Croatia to a first. It is true that Croatia controlled the ball for the first half hour, but as the recap shows, that led to no risk at all for Argentina. <Not too sure about that first goal.> I have looked at it many times. It seems to me the GK did come out to the ball but also with the intention of taking the player off balance if the ball passed him... After all, he didn't touch the ball, which makes it an obstruction, doesn't it? But that's speculative, I can't read the goalie's mind. I agree it wasn't the most clear penalty foul, and there is room to question it. In general, I think extreme measures (like a penalty) should be based on clearer evidence. And FWIW, I think the penalty awarded to Argentina v Poland was not fair, and much more questionable than this one. In both cases, I am glad Argentina demonstrated to be the better team overall anyway, and the victory margins were large. On the other hand, wasn't the second Dutch goal illegal? No attacking players are allowed w/in 3 feet of a defending teams wall of 3 or more players during a free kick. Wasn't that violated? I'm just saying that not all ref controversial decisions are in favor of Argentina. <Regardless of whether they play France or Morocco I think Argentina will win the final.> I feel very good about this team!
As for France v Morocco, I believe with 95% confidence that France will win, though I wish it were Morocco. Not because I prefer Argentina to play Morocco (I actually crave revenge against France) but because I like Morocco and it'd be so cool to see an African team reach the final. |
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Dec-14-22
 | | Check It Out: France vs Argentina in the final. It doesn't get much better than that, excitement! |
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Dec-14-22
 | | saffuna: I can say confidently that the PSG megastar will lead his team to the title. |
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Dec-14-22 | | areknames: <I can say confidently that the PSG megastar will lead his team to the title.> Hehe, you would completely bankrupt Vegas. |
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Dec-14-22
 | | Check It Out: My French students are excited but worried that Mbappe is limping. |
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Dec-14-22
 | | Fusilli: <CheckĀ ItĀ Out: France vs Argentina in the final. It doesn't get much better than that, excitement!> And a final that has not happened before. That's kinda nice too. |
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Dec-14-22 | | optimal play: Not a convincing win by France. I think the 2-0 score line flattered them a bit. Morocco had a few chances which they failed to convert into goals. <Fusilli> The penalty which led to the first goal against Croatia may or may not have been justified, it was a close call. Free kicks in the penalty area are often controversial. In any event, it didn't determine the outcome of the game. Croatia certainly can't use that as an excuse for their loss. I'm tipping Argentina to win the final.
They've shown themselves to be the best team in this world cup and have been playing better than France. Not since 1962 has a team won back to back World Cups and I don't think this French side is good enough to achieve the double. Also Argentina hasn't won it since 1986 and after their loss in 2014, and with Messi playing his last world cup game, I don't think anything will stop them. |
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Dec-15-22
 | | Fusilli: <areknames> <Hehe, you would completely bankrupt Vegas.> Is Vegas betting on France? What are the odds? |
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Dec-15-22
 | | moronovich: France : 2.80 Draw : 3.10 Argentina : 2.75
Danish bookmakers pr. 15th of december.
So we can easily call it, an even match. On paper ;) |
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Dec-15-22
 | | saffuna: Seems the rest of Argentina's players, not highly rated before the tournament, have stepped up in the past two games. Messi has been consistently spectacular while the other superstar, Mbappe, has only appeared for moments. That's no guide to what will happen in the final, though. Mbappe could easily come out on fire. I believe Adrien Rabiot will be back after missing the Morocco game. |
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Dec-15-22
 | | saffuna: <My French students are excited but worried that Mbappe is limping.> So he's only 20% faster than the other players, not 50%? |
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Dec-15-22 | | areknames: As per <moro>'s post, there's almost nothing to separate the teams according to the bookies. This would also suggest that at the moment even amounts of money is coming in so it really depends who you bet with. I don't believe the odds will change significantly, I suppose they could though if lots of action suddenly pours in for either side. |
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Dec-16-22 | | technical draw: Here are some odds for the final:
France are -120 favorites to win the World Cup at DraftKings Sportsbook and -125 BetMGM. Argentina have +100 odds to win the World Cup on DraftKings and -110 odds on BetMGM. This means a $100 bet on France would pay out $183.33 at DraftKings and $180 at BetMGM, and a $100 bet on Argentina would pay out $200 at DraftKings and $190.91 at BetMGM. Almost an even bet which it should be. |
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Dec-16-22
 | | saffuna: And to think, France is playing without two of its best players: Benzema and Pogba. |
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Dec-17-22
 | | moronovich: Giroud left the field today with a swollen knee and may not be ready for the final.At the same time the french are having trouble with a virus in the camp. So....Things are looking better for argentinians right now. |
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Dec-17-22
 | | saffuna: <Giroud left the field today with a swollen knee and may not be ready for the final.> So...Benzema returns to save the day! |
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Dec-18-22 | | technical draw: Well let's see if Benzema lives up to his name which in Spanish is roughly "vence mas" or wins more. Anyway Benzema or Benzemenos I will root for Argentina. |
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Dec-18-22
 | | moronovich: According to the french coach, there is no indication that Benzema will join the team. Right now there are MANY argentines in the streets outside the stadion. Clearly the team will have many fans on the pitch and hence the advantage in that respect. |
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Dec-18-22
 | | Fusilli: I put my money where my mouth is and bet on an Argentina win on Draftkings. I have never bet online before. I bet on an Argentina win of the game (odds +165). |
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Dec-18-22
 | | Fusilli: As for Benzema... It's likely that all the French players realized this morning that they were feeling great and ready to play, but the coach doesn't have to buy it. |
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