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M61MG Wrestler
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   M61MG Wrestler has kibitzed 26 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Nov-05-14 M61MG Wrestler chessforum (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: ==== <James Demery> The link has been updated to this one: Robert James Fischer As the owners of this website clean up the old trash, the links above get broken. You called on an investigation of the M61MG book's legitmacy, and Trice's puppet <hackmate> made up a
 
   Jun-16-14 Viktor Korchnoi (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: <petrosianic: a few words that Fischer didn't even say (see "My 61 Memorable Games Hoax"). > http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... .
 
   Sep-27-12 Adams vs Gelfand, 2012 (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: Whereas Adams is seventh place....he needs to try harder. :)
 
   Feb-15-12 Bobby Fischer (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: <♗=== UGH ===♗> <Joshka: <rannewman> Those notes were collected and written over decades, and according to reports I've read, they measure some 22 inches high stacked on top of one another! The bootlegged book was printed in Iceland 2007. IM Larry ...
 
   Jun-23-11 jessicafischerqueen chessforum (replies)
 
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   Aug-12-09 chessgames.com chessforum (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: In my profile I am having difficulty getting certain lines to separate, without adding a blank line in between. How can I ensure that a line of text starts on a new line? Here is an example that DOES NOT SEPARATE with a carriage return: Evans 1st M61MG Article ...
 
   Jul-25-09 Kibitzer's Café (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: ♗/////NO ONE BANNED\\\\\ ♗ Reminder to all: If you want to discuss or investigate the book "My 61 Memorable Games", I invite you to visit my chessforum. Other sites on the internet may not allow the discussion from all users that takes place on my forum.
 
   Jul-25-09 Shirov vs R Panjwani, 2009 (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: ♗/////NO ONE BANNED\\\\\ ♗ If you want to discuss or investigate the book "My 61 Memorable Games", I invite your to visit my chessforum, on which no CG.COM user is banned from participating. Other sites on the internet may not allow the discussion that takes ...
 
   Jul-03-09 H Olafsson vs P Smirnov, 2008 (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: ♗////LINKS NEEDED\\\\♗ I'm looking for good links to headline the "Uncovering the Truth" page. See the short kibitz history on my forum. Improvements solicited, and most welcome.
 
   Jun-29-09 chancho chessforum (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: New location for discussing "My 61 Mem Games", including all* previous posts on that topic from Mrs. Alekhine's forum. Click my Avatar to join in. Anyone is welcome. *some pruning has occurred on irrelevant posts.
 
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Uncovering the Truth About M61MG

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May-09-09  GeauxCool: M61 wasn't the topic of the article, it was Topalov-Kamsky.

The puzzle page may be composed of freelance contributions, not staff columnists.

Two points for <IMlDay>.

May-09-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: <GeauxCool> I'm not doubting IMlDay's contributions to the Star. In Wiki it says he has been a columnist for that paper since 1976:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawren...

I wonder why Chess is not mentioned in the games section though:

http://www.thestar.com/games

May-09-09  hackmate: IM Day,

Don't bother wasting your time with these people. They overlook obvious facts (the existence of the book, that you wrote the article, that Fischer was the author of the book) and just believe what they want.

You don't have to defend your position. I'll take your opinion as an International Master over their collected opinions any day.

You have the book, you read it, you see Fischer as the author.

You wrote the article, someone scanned it and emailed it to me, I posted it online, they still don't think it was you.

Who cares what they think? Let them remain ignorant.

May-09-09  Pyke: <hackmate:

Don't bother wasting your time with these people. They overlook obvious facts <(... that Fischer was the author of the book)> and just believe what they want.>

Excuse me, but what actual facts or even arguments have been brought up, to prove that Fischer was the author of the book???

Great argument <Hackmate>. "Fischer is the author because Fischer is the author" Great.

May-09-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: <I'll take your opinion as an International Master over their collected opinions any day.>

What about the opinions of IM Jeremy Silman, GM Yasser Seirawan, GM Larry Evans, IM Anthony Saidy, and Einar Einarsson's e-mail saying Fischer did not write it? What about those "collected opinions"? Yeah, yeah, I know... They don't have the book...

May-09-09  MageOfMaple: <Hackmate> What up, Trice? Thanks for taking the time to drop by. Thought you'd be too busy planning your next scam.
May-09-09  danfreely: If you people could just see yourselves. Totally childish, arguing about things which you know nothing about, ready and eager to slander good men like IM Day and Ed Trice. Well, guess what? Almost everything on the internet is stored, and searchable, so your stupid, childish antics will be there for everyone to see forever. So, by all means keep running your mouths, and show us all how smart you are.
May-09-09  Jim Bartle: Well, danfreely, could you please identify some of my "stupid, childish antics"? I would greatly appreciate it.

Specific quotes, if you don't mind.

May-09-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: <Almost everything on the internet is stored, and searchable, so your stupid, childish antics will be there for everyone to see forever.>

Ain't that the truth...

<Apr-08-09 danfreely: I do know Trice personally and I can say that he does love chess, checkers, and any other strategy game, but he also loves people! We were playing at the local chess club and I got a frantic call from my wife about how our cat was stuck in a tree. We didn't have a ladder so she called 911 but they wouldn't do anything. Ed Trice said not to worry, resigned a game to leave the club early and came right over with a ladder!>

May-10-09  Jim Bartle: I'll go a little farther, danfeely. I am positive not a single kibitzer on this page has slandered Day or Trice or anybody else. In fact no kibitzer has ever slandered anybody ever at chessgames.
May-10-09  PinnedPiece: <Jim Bartle: I'll go a little farther, danfeely. I am positive not a single kibitzer on this page has slandered Day or Trice or anybody else. In fact no kibitzer has ever slandered anybody ever at chessgames.>

H-m-m-m. Looking for the period in the name, here....

.

May-10-09  Jim Bartle: No, it's me, and I stand by my claim.
May-10-09  sharro: by the way this is not slander, this is all well documented, mostly from Ed Trice's own words
May-10-09  capatal: <Ed Trice last seen 3/5/09: I was getting my place down the seashore ready for summer.>

You sure skedaddled from cg.com FAST <Ed>! (almost in a fever)...

What about your concept of,"there's no such thing as bad press"<ET>?

May-10-09  Jim Bartle: Interesting. Hackmate also wrote this on the Joshka forum on April 28:

"Hello Bruce, I am all moved in now. Great place, very nice family too. Getting ready for the big wedding day."

May-10-09  GeauxCool: Maybe we should take up a suggestion by another member and refer to them as <Sybil> and be done with it.

I'm working to coalesce more facts from a recent observation for this M61 depository, but I want to add that it's interesting how <Sybil> is trying to get <IMlDay> to quit interacting with us. Perhaps <Sybil> is afraid that <IMlDay> will change his mind about the book.

May-10-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: I heard he claimed that he was an English citizen. Why on Earth is he playing chess in Philly? :-)
May-10-09  GeauxCool: Inconsistency 1:

- <Joshka> and <IMlDay> Strike a Deal -

<Jan-17-09
IMlday: <Joshka> I would be delighted with an opportunity to review it. At minimum that would end the obdurate skepticism regarding its existence.

<Jan-17-09
Joshka: <IMlday> Shoot me an email, it's on my profile page, and we can talk. As a Master, I would value your input.>
>

- The Review Article -

<IMlDay - It was printed on <Saturday, February 28> in the Toronto Star...

Feb 28 = Saturday - review article
Mar 01 = Sunday
Mar 02 = Monday

<Mar 03
hackmate: Hello,
Someone sent me part of an article or maybe the whole article about Bobby's new book.

<IMlDay - Hackmate has scanned the <hard copy of the original> and I verify it is authentic.>>

---- My inquiry to Toronto Star ----

<Thank you for your email.

A <hard copy> edition of The Toronto Star <is no longer available outside the province>.

Regards,
Toronto Star Single Copy
Toronto Star Newspapers Ltd>

--

Why would <IMlDay> make a 200 dollar deal with an enthusiastic <Joshka>, but then turn around and send the review article to Hackmate? Wouldn't <IMlDay> just send the review article to <Joshka>, who had said that he valued the Master's input?

May-10-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: Here's a link where someone captured what Sir Ed wrote regarding his allegiance to the crown:

http://groups.google.com/group/misc...

May-10-09  Jim Bartle: I love the way Trice refers to "English" citizenship in his e-mail on that google group page.

This also caught my eye:

"I rescinded my US Citizenship in July of 2006 when the Fischer-Kaprov match took shape and we accumulated over $20 million in pledged European airing contracts should the event take place."

On some page a while back Trice berated me for asking why he needed investors to put up $15,000,000 in cash to hold the match. Running the match would never cost that much to put on, assuming the players were going to be paid afterward.

So why would he need 15 million in cash from investors if he had 20 million pledged for broadcasts?

May-11-09  GeauxCool: <Pinned Piece> We know that <hackmate> and <IMlDay> are in communication as <IMlDay> sent the article to <hackmate>.

How did <IMlDay> get <hackmate>'s address? Communication. But the only person that <IMlDay> has been in contact with is <Joshka>.

But why would <Joshka> tell <IMlDay> to overnight the article to <hackmate>, some guy that <IMlDay> doesn't even know?

Why wouldn't <Joshka> want it sent it to himself, or to <Ed Trice>? That makes one wonder. How come <Joshka> never received the article that he was waiting for?

Curious is that <hackmate> was so excited that he couldn't wait to post. That was a mistake because it closed the time window.

We know for certain that <IMlDay> knows the true identity of <hackmate>, and yet he continues to post to him as if he doesn't know his true identity. Why the ruse? This interaction only weakens his argument for the book's authenticity. It's as if he's been trapped helping to generate false appearances.

False Appearances.

That's the key issue behind the book.

May-11-09  JonDSouzaEva: <GeauxCool> I'm afraid I can't understand what you're going on about. Could you explain it a little simpler?

It seems to me that if IM Lawrence Day's article was printed in Canada on Saturday 28th Feb, then all Trice/Hackmate had to do was ask someone in Canada to scan the article and e-mail him the scan as an attachment.

May-11-09  GeauxCool: <JDSE> It's from this:

<IMlDay - Hackmate has scanned the hard copy of the original and I verify it is authentic. >

It would have been a natural action for <IMlDay> to send the hard copy of the original to <Joshka>, as <Joshka> provided the fabricated book, and also requested his input.

May-11-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: It is interesting, how <hackmate> so quickly got wind of IMlDay's review of the book.

Mr Day said he would love to review the book on Jan 17,(on a Saturday) of 2009.

Mr Day apparently has the book on Feb 17, as he starts to post some notes from the book on chessgames.com on that date.

(a month after he first said he'd love to review the book)

Then 11 days after Feb 17, on Feb 28,(a Saturday) he writes his review for the Toronto Star.

May-12-09  GeauxCool: Auction timepoints:

<Apr-16-08

Joshka: Ed Trice was the person who asked me to post about the auction in December of 2007>

It seems to me that <Joshka> should have been the first to post, but he wasn't.

----

The first was Gene_M at Chess Ninja:

<GeneM | December 14, 2007 10:36 PM BOBBY FISCHER'S NEW CHESS BOOK!>
http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt...

---

And Susan Polgar's Blogspot followed Gene_M by just 10 minutes (Timezone).

<Posted by Susan Polgar at 12/14/2007 09:46:00 PM = "My Google alert just sent me this notification about a "supposedly" new Bobby Fischer book on ebay Canada.>

Then 4 comments from readers...
http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/200...

---

Bruce Towell comes in 7th, Chess Ninja:

<Bruce Towell | December 14, 2007 11:55 PM "Guess Garry is not the only former champ to come out with a new book...">

http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt...

----

Does anyone know if an earlier mention of the auction exists?

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