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| Jun-17-09 | | Jim Bartle: Mr. Trice, now that you have returned to this page, can you defend this paragraph you posted on the Go Big network? "The rules of chess are changing. Gothic Chess represents the new game as it will be played from now on. We sell boards and pieces, software programs, and run tournaments for cash prizes. We are currently hosting a World Championship match between chess legends Bobby Fischer and Anatoly Karpov and need money for the prize fund. Revenues from the TV broadcast rights exceed the capitalization costs by a factor of three." The first statement about Gothic chess replacing chess is ludicrous, but basically just salesmanship. You have the right to make any ridiculous statement you wish. But to say you are "currently hosting" a Karpov-Fischer match means you are stating that the match is occurring at that time. The match was not in fact happening, in fact it never took place. Did you really think that people would put up money for a match you were "currently hosting" before you had the prize money lined up? |
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Jun-17-09
 | | chancho: <"Both Karpov and I signed the contract, and Bobby was seriously contemplating. The money was there," she said.> How did Susan Polgar know that Karpov signed the contract and the money was there? And was she in Iceland watching Fischer "contemplating?" Sounds like hearsay to me.
And the document that is shown on the youtube video says: <This is not a contract but an informal acknowledgement of match parameters.> |
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| Jun-17-09 | | Ed Trice: Rob Mitchell needs to admit his lies. I just got off the phone with Titus Keingham, whom I said Rob owes $50,000. Titus said this is not the case, so I must apologize to Rob for saying he owed him $50,000. I was wrong, and I admit it. Titus said Chess Masterminds owes him $57,000 and this company was owned by Rob Mitchell, Michael Calger, and one other person whose name I forget. I did take notes on this conversation with Titus. Titus also said he tried to settle this for less than $57,000 and in fact, he was pleading with Rob Mitchell to make any kind of token payment. Rob Mitchell declined to pay him even one cent. Furthermore, Titus confirmed that Rob Mitchell NEVER contacted Anatoly Karpov. Take a good look at that deal memo http://www.gothicchess.com/images/b...
It says "The players who have initially agreed to participate are Mr. Robert James Fischer and Mr. Anatoly Karpov." Rob Mitchell lied. Karpov told Titus that he never heard of Rob Mitchell. Titus suspects a portion of the $35,000 would have been used to pay down the debt owed to him from Rob Mitchell and Chess Masterminds. Fortunately, Titus is very friendly and very open to communication. If anyone wants to contact him, let me know. I have conclusive proof that Rob Mitchell is a liar and therefore his point of view is extremely biased. Rob, will you finally admit that you lied about contacting Karpov and Fischer? You contacted Susan Polgar, and you got no further. |
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| Jun-17-09 | | Ed Trice: P.S. Titus also confirmed that it was Mike Calger who claimed he had to "give a deposition" on the very day Chess Masterminds was to meet me in New York. Rob Mitchell, you guys postponed the meeting with Trump, twice. I have proof that you did. Or do you insist that you were really ready to go to New York and present to Trump? Which is it? |
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| Jun-17-09 | | PinnedPiece: <I have conclusive proof that Rob Mitchell is a liar and therefore his point of view is extremely biased.> It doesn't make any difference how biased his views are, Ed, really. There are many issues that this forum has unearthed that point in one direction only, regarding M61MG. It is up to you to change gears, get off the strike back mode, and put us all in the picture of what really went down. With irrefutable evidence. Accusations at this point mean jack shiatsu (one finger massage therapy, not widely used in USA). . |
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Jun-17-09
 | | chancho: <I have conclusive proof that Rob Mitchell is a liar and therefore his point of view is extremely biased.> There's one small problem with Trice's "conclusive proof". He lies way too much to conclusively believe him. |
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| Jun-17-09 | | sharro: <Ed Trice: Fortunately, Titus is very friendly and very open to communication. If anyone wants to contact him, let me know.> Please post his website URL. |
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| Jun-18-09 | | robmtchl: Trice
You are still wrong. Chess masterminds never contracted with anyone. It was another legal entity that I had no part in that did.Phil Innes contacted Karpovs rep and verified he would play. You simply do not know what you are talking about. Mike told you what day he could not be there two weeks prior to you setting the date. You set a date for the only time he couldnt go. We also told you we were not going to NY until you put up some money to prove you were for real. But the real issue here is your claim to have Fischer's power of attorney. Show us! |
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| Jun-18-09 | | Ed Trice: I am so glad I recorded my telephone call this evening with Titus. I have just saved it as a .mov file and I am uploading it to my website right now. It was a 20 minute phone call, it looks like it is a 310 MB file. I will post the link when it is done uploading. |
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| Jun-18-09 | | Ed Trice: I will go through the conversation and look for the time index where the most relevant lies of Rob Mitchell are located. Listeners can then fast foward to those sections and hear the lies of Rob Mitchell. I also repeatedly asked Titus if he "agreed or disagreed" with a particular statement, so there is no ambiguity at all. Titus was clearly 100% against Mitchell and 100% in agreement with me. Titus claims Chess Masterminds owes him $57,000 and that Rob Mitchell was one of the three principals in that entity. Titus calls Rob Mitchell "a real jerk" several times. Titus confirms that Anatoly Karpov never heard of Rob Mitchell. Karpov never heard of Chess Masterminds either. Amazing how Rob Mitchell can ask me for $35,000 for something he didn't even do, isn't it? Rob Mitchell forgets that he told Titus he has Karpov's signature and agreement to play, yet Mitchell REFUSED to show that document to Titus. Or do you deny that as well Rob? It's all on tape, I am listening to it now. |
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| Jun-18-09 | | sharro: After that, maybe you should take a minute to explain why you were wearing that t shirt. |
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| Jun-18-09 | | Ed Trice: Rob, can you show me the project plan you were going to demonstrate to Trump? Let me guess, you deleted it now, right? |
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| Jun-18-09 | | Ed Trice: I am listening to the part where Titus Keingham confirms that Mike Calger claimed he had to "give a deposition" on the Thursday he was due in New York to visit the Trump organization. This shows that Rob Mitchell was lying about his claim that I picked a date where they were unavailable. And, amazingly, Rob Mitchell did not have a hotel reservation or a plane ticket the night before he was due in New York at 10 AM. I'd like to hear Rob Mitchell's explanation for that. |
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| Jun-18-09 | | Ed Trice: Last chance, Rob Mitchell.
Want to change your story at all before I post this link? |
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| Jun-18-09 | | Ed Trice: Ed: "Now, what was the one where Chess Masterminds were using you guys to do a lot of the video production work on and they ran up some sort of egregious bill and left you holding the bag. What was that for?" Titus: "That was the, the Distance Chess thing."
Ed: "And do you remember what the total dollar figure on that was, that they owed you? It was a big number, I remember." Titus: "That was, ah, they ended up owing me 57 grand." Ed: "Fifty-seven thousand dollars is what Chess Masterminds and Rob Mitchell owed you, correct?" Titus: "Correct."
Ed: "Now Rob Mitchell is saying that he doesn't owe you a penny. Do you agree with that?" Titus: "He what?"
Ed: "Rob Mitchell says, as of today, he does not owe you one penny. Would you agree with..." Titus: "No, no, heavens no. He himself may not, and that's what he's gonna say, because it was all done under Chess Masterminds, LLC." |
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| Jun-18-09 | | JonDSouzaEva: <Ed Trice>
No-one gives a damn about Rob Mitchell's involvement in the Karpov-Fischer match.There are many, many more interesting avenues to explore. For example - there is no doubt that you went to Iceland in June 2006, together with Alexis Skye, Frank Camaratta and Titus Keingham (I have never seen any pictures of Keingham in Iceland, but I'm happy to accept that he was there as well). However, the bare-faced lie that you have repeated often (it's even on youtube) is that you returned to Iceland (not once but twice!) on your own several months later and that you actually met Fischer on your third trip. If you have any evidence whatsoever that the second and third trips took place then please post it here. Do you claim to have met Fridrik Olafsson on these trips as well? Think carefully before you answer. Here is a link where Trice boasts of having a scheduled meeting with Fischer in June 2006: http://tinyurl.com/mmfnae
This is clearly the "first" (read "only") trip as Camaratta, Kleingham and Skye are mentioned. However if Trice was going to boast about this, surely he would have mentioned actually meeting Fishcer face-to-face several months later if this meeting was anything other than a figment of his fevered imagination? |
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| Jun-18-09 | | capatal: <Ed Trice>: You might even excel @ Liar's Poker. ( a long shot). Chess seems a bit over your head though... As you continue to ignore & evade the simplest & most basic questions about your efforts with the M61MG book. - Everyone rises to their level of incompetence.
Laurence J. Peter, "The Peter Principle" |
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| Jun-18-09 | | whiskeyrebel: The Rob Mitchell distraction isn't going to work here Trice. I consider the source (you) and figure you're just stirring the poo again in an attempt to smear an enemy much like the way you attacked many of us on your dopey Mars website. I'd glady buy Mitchell a beer and a shot no matter what you cook up, but you'll have to cover your own. |
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| Jun-18-09 | | MageOfMaple: Guys, Ed can't talk about M61MG right now. Emotionally, I mean. He's still too deeply hurt from the Mitchell Affair, as you can see from his courageous personal disclosure. The man's bustin' out in ALL CAPS for God's sake. And he was just getting over the great Checker's Affair... http://www.usacheckers.com/forum/vi... Poor guy. Get well soon, Ed! |
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| Jun-18-09 | | sharro: <Ed Trice: I was wearing that T-shirt because ED LABATE CLAIMED HE WAS COMING TO THE WORLD OPEN WITH A PROCESS SERVER TO SERVE ME AND SUE ME.> That makes about as much sense as Donald Trump giving anyone his debit card. hahahaha |
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| Jun-18-09 | | Jim Bartle: Great stuff on the usacheckers post from Ed Trice linked to above: "And as for Alex calling me a "novice" after he visited me December 18, 2004, I find that hard to believe. 1. I could not even stand up, having recently gotten out of traction for a broken back. 2. He had only called the day before, mentioning he would be meeting his son, and suggested a get together. 3. We did not play any checkers until I had already played games of chess, and Gothic Chess, with his son, and after we had each had a few beers. We also played using chess pawns on a chess board, not the best way to play checkers." Four more he left out:
4. I had eaten scrambled eggs for breakfast and they didn't agree with me. 5. I was tired from counting the fifteen million dollars the backers had given me for the Karpov-Fischer match. 6. I thought we were playing by the rules of Gothic checkers. 7. I was distracted by all the cell phone calls from Bobby Fischer. |
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| Jun-18-09 | | Pyke: Hehe, good ones <Jim>! That made me laugh! |
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| Jun-18-09 | | Ed Trice: http://www.gothicchess.com/lies.mov |
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Jun-18-09
 | | chancho: The Titus phone call was great timing and a neat trick. How can we possibly know if any of that dialogue is actually true? Trice is such a tricky and smart fellow, that he could have asked someone to play the role of Titus. That, plus a nice scripted dialogue, and voila! What is puzzling to me, is that the alleged 50 grand owed to Titus, is for work done way back in 2006, and yet Titus has not sued Mitchell for his money in all this time.
Btw, how is his name spelled Keingham, or Keiningam?
http://www.google.com/search?q=titu... |
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| Jun-19-09 | | Ed Trice: What? No witty responses? No snappy comeback lines from Rob Mitchell? |
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