Misleading mix of nominating/seconding.

<Jessicafischerqueen: Combination of nomination and seconding must be maximum of 3 per category>

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There is no combined maximum.

Reference: the rules in the forum header; the are perfectly clear:

<♘ NOMINATION RULES ♘

From January 2-8 we receive nominations for all categories. You may not nominate more than <<<<3 users (games, etc.) for any single category>>>>.

"You may only nominate 3 different people per category. A member must receive at least 2 nominations in a given category in order to advance to the voting round in that category.">

That would be a <<<different>>> version.

According to the current rules:

I can nominate 3 best avatars.

I was going to do this on 2nd January but when I went to the page to get the link I was surprised to find that EVERYTHING had gone and been replaced in Winston Smith fashion with a Hugh Laurie episode of Blackadder II. I was actually voting for the old slightly curmudgeonly and eccentric profile that was there for almost the entirety of 2013. But it is still a good profile; and I am sure the old eclecticism will return in stages throughout 2014.

I won't vouch for myself, but I know for a fact neither <MAJ> nor <Annie> is thick.

Well firstly I'd like to thank <john barleycorn> for this award. He's one of the finest human minds our race has ever known. Secondly,g me in everything I do..>

Here is a point of confusion- <chancho> has just nominated <technical draw> for Funniest Poster.

I had already nominated him in this category.

So is he in to the final voting round?

I say he is, according to the posted rules.

But a really strict reading of the posted rules might say <technical draw> was "nominated" twice rather than "nominated" and then "seconded."

This is an instance in which a second "nomination" would count as a "seconding" - which is what <Annie> thought.

Again, I submit the rules need clarifying.

Best Post <Anand-Carlsen World Championship (2013)>

<Sep-07-13 Wyatt Gwyon: Anand won't win a single game. Book it.>

This was a couple of months before the match... and I said to myself that this was totally ridiculous. (But I am an old enough head that I said nothing in print).

(To my slight credit, this post appeared after the match: <offramp: <Sep-07-13 Wyatt Gwyon: Anand won't win a single game. Book it.> When I read that, 2 and a half months ago (on page 40), I mentally ridiculed it. I genuinely thought Anand would win one game, though probably not two.

<Actually, I retract.>

LOL! That sounds like me.

Well good job by both you and <Annie> to post a request for clarification on the MAIN NOT SO SECRET admin forum.

While duplicate seconding is not needed, it does not need to be rescinded, either, since you're allowed unlimited number of seconds.

Furthermore, it seems to me that you seconded Karpova for best post, not for best historian: The Caissars chessforum

Searching for "karpova user:jessicafischerqueen" shows no other nominations/seconding karpova for best historian in your posts.

Searching for "historian user:jessicafischerqueen" shows exactly 3 nominations, so I am not sure why <Annie K.> counted four.

<Annie> has taken on what looks to be a formidable task of updating this year, due to at least two factors:

1. There are new rules and it seems not many have actually bothered to read them.

2. There is a significant ambiguity in the "nomination" "seconding" distinction.

Are you eyeing at winning category 15?>>

I'm guessing category 15's a <black eye> because I seemed to have caused my friend some unintentional offence, haha. Calm down mate, I don't think you got the "parodyesqueness" (Best word invention? 😆) of my post, lol. I did say earlier in SEVERAL!!! forum that I've been slacking lately in that department, so my deepest ap-oll-ojizz ;)

<offramp> Thanks, because I know that nom was sincere as I really have just changed my profile! You noticed? And more importantly, you recognize it was blackadder II,(he's my fictional hero, I love his wit, lol)And I just wanna say that means more than 25 Awards from a load of cronies who vote for each other *just because* the other person nominated them. And that's been my point if anyone reads back a page or two!

Some of the nominations for funniest are?!?###?!??? It's CRONYISM!!!!!! I think id better shut up and leave right now, lol!

But how is <OCF> "funny???". Show me one post? One? Just one? #ridiculous!

Sorry if the new rules are expressed vaguely. Perhaps a few clarifications are in order:

• If two people nominate the same member, the extra nomination will be interpreted as the 'seconding' of the first nomination.

• We placed the restriction of "three nominations per category" to force people to make decisions and pick the very best for nomination. That means that each of you can nominate as many as 42 members (games, puns, etc.) across all categories because 14x3 = 42.

• However, "seconding" is unlimited: we felt that we would get caught up in red tape if we had to keep track of how many times something is seconded. Of course, if a member is seconded more than once it is superfluous.

For these reasons, JFQ's decision to 'rescind a nomination' makes sense, since she nominated a member who had already been nominated, which means in a way she really only nominated two and seconded the third. I'm not sure how many people are eager to make the full three nominations in each category; perhaps this circumstance won't be terribly important.

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