2nd and second>

All fixed thanks. I'm really glad I kept your last draft up in the forum since I forgot about the notes eh?

Here is draft now:
Game Collection: WCC: Lasker-Schlechter 1910

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In addition, I wanted to thank you further for insisting on this standard of scholarship for our project:

<<Karpova>: <On a different note, how to cite sources we got from other sources? A direct example: Imagine I quote the 'ACB' by taking the info from Winter's Capa book.

a) We couldn't omit Winter as a source and act as if we had the ACB before us and found it ourselves>>.

This was more than lazy on my part, it was also dishonest. If I only put the secondary source in the citation list, then I am <de facto> taking credit for work the primary source writer did.

I want to do more than just scholarahip, no matter how gread it seems eh?

I put that back in the way you first wrote it.>

<One of the strongest chessplayers in the world.>

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Daniel recently declared you "Comedy Dictator for Life."

hahaha.

<seconds>

Thanks for going the extra mile trying to get to the bottom of this.

<Our sources do not indicate who was whose second, and we assume that the seconds' role was restricted to administrative tasks mainly.>

I think it's a good idea to put that in a footnote. Can you do that and then post the revised list?

Then I can put it in the mirror.

On another topic, this is what you have saved us from, the original article, soon to be erased:

<In fact, it's commonly believed now that there was a match clause requiring Schlechter to win by 2 points to become World Champion.1>

Another unsubstantiated claim from the eminently unreliable <Cree>.

Oh wait...

Aha- Sorry to just make up words like that.>

Don't be. The English language, much like a passed pawn, has an insatiable expandlust.

Yes it should be.

Much like the feared Alaska King crab, nice catch.

Having read your earlier comments on "the information available" I don't think there's any problem leaving things as they already are.

<Carl Schlechter> was born in Vienna, Austria in 1874, and became on the strongest chessplayers in the world in the late 1890s [(1)], sharing 1st place with <Henry Nelson Pillsbury> at <Munich (1900)>, following up with 1st places at <Vienna (1904)> and the huge Ostend (1906) tournament, and a shared 1st at <Vienna (1908)> and <Prague (1908)>.

<Theodor Gerbec> wrote that "Apart from the reputation of being the greatest defensive player of all times, his attacking conduct was famous for an almost undefinable grace and method," [(2)] and <Richard Reti> said "His games stand out through their breadth of scheme – just as in the forest the trunks of trees and their branches stretch themselves out on all sides wherever there are open spaces: thus did Schlechter develop his forces; forcibly and, like Nature as it were, objectless. No hidden places and traps were there, but only sound development. With him was no undue haste and no pinning himself down to one idea, but one harmonious evolution" [(3)]. But in 1906, world champion <Emanuel Lasker>, while acknowledging Schlechter's aptitude to play for the crown, detected in his personality a lack of anything demoniacal which could induce him to seize someone else's possessions. [(4)]

Following his tournament successes, Schlechter travelled to Berlin in November 1908 and challenged Lasker to a title match. The world champion accepted the challenge and both published a statement on December 3, wherein the match was to last 30 games, the winner to need a +2 score and the match to take place at the end of 1909. [(5)] Further negotiations lead to the announcement on September 15, 1909, that the match was to be played in December 1909 or January, February or March 1910 and would be public. [(6)] Schlechter biographer Warren Goldman reports that "...conditions governing the truncated contest in 1910 were never published so far as the author has been able to determine as of 1994," but goes on to note that the "Deutsches Wochenschach put the matter thusly: the victor would be the one who scored the majority of the games, and if necessary the referee would decide the title." [(7)]

On January 7, 1910, the 10-game world championship match began in the Vienna Chess Club and many celebrities were present. <Georg Marco> was the match director, the seconds were <Hugo Faehndrich>, Siegmund Pollak and Eduard Stiaßny [(8)]. Usually, the games began at 5 pm and lasted until 8 pm. After a break of 1 ½ hours, play was resumed until 11 pm and then adjourned if necessary. [(9)] The time control was 15 moves per hour. [(10)] On January 8, Lasker took a rest day. [(8)] After the third game, play was relocated to two Vienna saloons for games 4 and 5 with Faehndrich becoming the match director and Pollak and Baron Döry von Jobahaza serving as seconds [(8)]. The 1st leg of the match ended after game 5, which the challenger had managed to win after four draws. [(11)] We assume that a +1 score was necessary to win the match.

[(2)] Neue Wiener Schachzeitung, December 1928, page 370

[(3)] Richard Reti, Modern Ideas in Chess, Hardinge Simpole, 2002, pages 82-83

[(4)] Wiener Schachzeitung, March-April 1907, page 95 (originally from Lasker's Chess Magazine 1906)

[(5)] Wiener Schachzeitung, December 1908, page 376

[(6)] Wiener Schachzeitung, September 1909, page 315

[(7)] Warren Goldman, Carl Schlechter! Life and Times of the Austrian Chess Wizard, Caissa Editions, 1994, pages 400-401

[(8)] Our sources do not indicate who was whose second, and we assume that the seconds' role was restricted to administrative tasks mainly.

[(9)] Wiener Schachzeitung, January 1910, pages 1-5
[(10)] Ost und West, March 1910, pages 171-176

[(11)] Wiener Schachzeitung, February-March 1910, pages 58-78

[(12)] Wiener Schachzeitung, February-March 1910, pages 78-95

[(13)] Wiener Schachzeitung, February-March 1910, pages 92 and 93-94

Ok thanks- Also I see I forgot to change <Doery>.

Look at this! He died last year on Valentine's day: http://announcements.telegraph.co.u...

I guess the name goes with the inherited title. I hope he had a son to keep it going.

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[(8)] is inserted three times.

Are you sure you want it here?

<On January 8, Lasker took a rest day. [(8)]>

Anyways here's how it looks now:

<On January 8, Lasker took a rest day. [(8)]>>

Fixed! Number 9 it is.

Here is an audiovisual aid to help us celebrate:

The seconds (and match directors) are listed for the first three games, and separately for the next two. The list consists entirely of Viennese players - Marco, Faehndrich, Pollak and the Baron (I can't find anything on Eduard Stiaßny, but I'd guess he was Viennese as well).

I'm not sure if Stiaßny was Austrian, there is E Stiassny who played Dr. Lasker in a GER Simul.

As the 'Wiener Schachzeitung' is my main source, it should be no surprise that the Vienna leg of them match was covered in such detail. I provided them whenever I found them, but the info on the Berlin leg is not that circumstantial.