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<Jer 20:10-13

Jeremiah said:

"I hear the whisperings of many:
'Terror on every side!
Denounce!
Let us denounce him!'
All those who were my friends are on the watch for any misstep of mine.

Perhaps he'll be trapped; then we can prevail, and take our vengeance on him.

But the LORD is with me, like a mighty champion: my persecutors will stumble, they will not triumph.

In their failure, they will be put to utter shame, to lasting, unforgettable confusion.

O LORD of hosts, you who test the just, who probe mind and heart, let me witness the vengeance you take on them, for to you, I have entrusted my cause.

Sing to the LORD,
praise the LORD,
for he has rescued the life of the poor
from the power of the wicked!">

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<1 Corinthians 13

13 If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.

9 For we know only in part, and we prophesy only in part; 10 but when the complete comes, the partial will come to an end. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known. 13 And now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; and the greatest of these is love.>

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<The Promise of the Lord's Coming

The Second Letter of Peter

Chapter 3

1 This is now, beloved, the second letter I am writing to you; in them I am trying to arouse your sincere intention by reminding you

2 that you should remember the words spoken in the past by the holy prophets, and the commandment of the Lord and Savior spoken through your apostles.

3 First of all you must understand this, that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and indulging their own lusts

4 and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since our ancestors died, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation!?

5 They deliberately ignore this fact, that by the word of God heavens existed long ago and an earth was formed out of water and by means of water,

6 through which the world of that time was deluged with water and perished.

7 But by the same word the present heavens and earth have been reserved for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the godless.

8 But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like one day.

9 The Lord is not slow about his promise, as some think of slowness, but is patient with you, not wanting any to perish, but all to come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and everything that is done on it will be disclosed.

11 Since all these things are to be dissolved in this way, what sort of persons ought you to be in leading lives of holiness and godliness,

12 waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be set ablaze and dissolved, and the elements will melt with fire?

13 But, in accordance with his promise, we wait for new heavens and a new earth, where righteousness is at home.

Final Exhortation and Doxology

14 Therefore, beloved, while you are waiting for these things, strive to be found by him at peace, without spot or blemish;

15 and regard the patience of our Lord as salvation. So also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given him,

16 speaking of this as he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures.

17 You therefore beloved, since you are forewarned, beware that you are not carried away with the error of the lawless and lose your own stability.

18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity.

Amen.>

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<Psalm 23

The Lord is my shepherd; there is nothing I shall not want.

2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.>

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Jun-04-08
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  Tabanus: <kwgurge: GMAN may well not select his opening choice based on his past repetoire>

I agree, and think we should try to be prepared for 1.c4 also. Perhaps he'll want 1...e5 (as a Sicilian player), or 1.c4 Nf6 2.d4 e6 3.Nf3 in anticipation of

a) 3...b6 i. e. our GMYS opening where he most certainly has improvements.

b) <kwid: 3...d5 4.Nc3 c6 5.e3 (here he may choose Bf4)> yes this looks plausible too (to me).

Or will he be "afraid" of 1.c4 c5?

Jun-04-08  truefriends: <Waitaka> On rybkachess.com you can read the report of Jeroen Noomen on the last (8th) freestyle tournament. In a few posts he discusses the importance of openingprep in freestyle tournaments and by superGM's.
Jun-04-08  truefriends: <The first (top) GM who finds out what great novelties and ideas are discovered and played in tournaments like Freestyle, or by computer programs, will have a huge advantage over his other GM colleagues. It is just a matter of time. Creating opening theory is part of the game and IMO very important. I think that if a top GM would browse to some of the top Playchess openingbooks, his interest will be more than triggered. Combined with his own analysis, his own ideas and his own team work this is a formidabel weapon in modern chess.>

Jeroen Noomen's view on openingprep by freestyle players and SuperGM's. Quite interesting to have such a 'formidabel weapon' :-)

Jun-04-08  mckmck: I think GMAN may choose catalan because of Kramnik uses it reqularly now.
Jun-04-08  kwid: Jun-04-08
< mckmck: I think GMAN may choose catalan because of Kramnik uses it reqularly now.>

We need to cover a lot of grounds to be ready for him. Did you look at my g3 line posted earlier today? It would be nice if you could research the catalan for its latest Kramniks games to see if my line would hold up against best play.

Jun-04-08  kwid: Jun-04-08 < truefriends: Jeroen Noomen's view on openingprep by freestyle players and SuperGM's. Quite interesting to have such a 'formidabel weapon' :-)>

If and when an updated book version is available we have to accept that he will be also aware of it.

Grandmasters are writing their own theory and their practice becomes the theory of tomorrow which is used to write books.

I am sure that we will also rewrite opening theory with this game as we did in our current GJT game.

Jun-04-08  Hesam7: Does anyone know when the rematch starts??

My personal preference for the opening would be the semi-slav against 1.d4, with the right move order we can avoid Catalan altogether.

Jun-04-08  kwid: Jun-04-08
< Hesam7: >
We should do well against a g3 line.
I see Kramnik played 10. Bd2 instead of Bg5 as i posted this morning.


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1.c4 Nf6 2.d4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.g3 Be7 5.Bg2 0-0 6.0-0 dxc4 7.Qc2 a6 8.Qxc4 b5 9.Qc2 Bb7 10.Bd2 Be4 11.Qc1 Nbd7 12.Ba5 Rc8 13.Nbd2

[ 13.Nc3 Ba8 14.a4 Rb8 15.axb5 axb5 16.Rd1 Bd6 17.Ne5 Bxg2 18.Kxg2 Qc8 19.Nxd7 Qxd7 20.Na2 Ra8 21.Qd2 Ne4 22.Qe1 f5 23.f3 Nf6 24.Bd2 Qc6 25.Nb4 Qc4 26.Bc3 Nd5 27.Nxd5 exd5 28.Rxa8 Rxa8 29.Qf2 Re8 30.Rd3 b4 31.Be1 Qc2 32.Rd2 Qb1 33.e3 Ra8 34.Re2 h6 35.Kh1 Re8 36.Rd2 f4 37.gxf4 Bxf4 38.Re2 Bd6 39.Kg2]

13...Ba8 14.Rd1

[ 14.Qc2 Qe8 15.b4 Nd5 16.a3 f5 17.e3 Qh5 18.Rac1 Bd6 19.h4 Rce8 20.Rfe1 Bb7 21.Ng5 h6 22.Bf3 Qg6 23.Nh3 N7f6 24.Qd1 e5 25.dxe5 Rxe5 26.Nf4 Qf7 27.Nd3 Re7 28.Qb3 Ne4 29.Red1 Rd8 30.Nc5 Bxc5 31.bxc5 Bc6 32.Nxe4 fxe4 33.Bg2 Rf8 34.Rd2 Nf6 35.Qxf7+ Kxf7 36.Rd6 Bb7 37.Rd4 Bc6 38.Bf1 Ng4 39.Be2]

14...Qe8 15.b4 Nd5 16.Qa3 f5 17.Rac1 Bd6 18.Qb2 Ne7 19.e3 Nf6 20.Ne5 Bxg2 21.Kxg2 Qh5 22.Ndf3 Ned5 23.Rh1 f4 24.e4 Bxe5 25.Nxe5 f3+ 26.Kf1 Qh3+ 27.Ke1 Qg2 28.exd5 Qxh1+

Jun-05-08  isemeria: There's a little problem with this kind of preparation, namely that it will be difficult to implement in the voting format. Even if there would be logical plans based on GMAN's previous repertoire and our new research, people will vote for what they like personally anyway. And in the beginning of a new game there will be 2-3 times more voters than the "normal" 300. Some part of the reasonable voters can and will change their votes because of good arguments or voting situation (=their preferred move is not going to win). In the end the team will choose a good, solid mainline opening variation.

For example, my prediction of the voting behaviour after 1. d4 is:

- 1...Nf6 will win clearly, because it attracts both Nimzo/QID, Benoni and KID players.

- After 2. c4 there will be huge argument between 2...e6 and 2...g6, again according to peoples preferences. And a minority of 2...c5 Benonistas. And probably 2...e6 will win, because of Nimzo/QID, QGD and Semi-Slav players support.

- After 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 <3. Nc3> Nimzo will be inevitable, although 3...d5 will have a fair share of supporters.

- After 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 <3. Nf3> it will be difficult to predict if it will be 3...b6 (QID) or 3...d5 (QGD or Semi-Slav). And again with relatively large support for 3...c5 (Benoni).

I don't try to underestimate the work done here. Just to remind of the voting reality in the opening stage of the game. I belive the similar work done before GMT game (e.g. by <whatthefat> and others) did benefit the team after all.

Jun-05-08  isemeria: My previous prediction is of course based on what happened in:

Y Shulman vs The World, 2007

Jun-05-08  kwid: Thanks for pointing me in this direction.
It's amazing for me to see such an enthusiasm and efforts for a pre game discussion.

Just look at < cuendillar> contribution below.

Jan-12-07 cuendillar: <Concerning different opening choices for us against 1.d4> Slav Defence: solid and played on the very highest level of late. This signifies that there aren't likely to be any killer novelties against it. Black doesn't get all that much counterplay in many of the lines though. Repertoire Explorer: Yury Shulman (white)

Semi-Slav: Sharp defence with counterattacking possibilities. The Meran variation however is a very effective counter to it. If anyone can demonstrate an efficient line for black against it, it is worthy of consideration. Repertoire Explorer: Yury Shulman (white) Repertoire Explorer: Yury Shulman (white)

King's Indian: One of his strongpoints in OTB play. It insinuates a major risk to play into his pet variation, since he is highly likely to play those position better than others. This does not only include the book moves. He's fairly good att killing it too. However, it gives us counterplay early on.

Benko Gambit: He's been doing great against in OTB play, although not everyone agrees on the importance of this. I cut away some early deviations by black, just to show how he plays it. Repertoire Explorer: Yury Shulman (white)

Queen's Gambit Declined: He tends to play lots of different lines against this. In spite of this, he has never lost to it. (roughly 50%wins, 50% draws) That said, very few disputes the fact that it is one of the safest counters to 1.d4

Nimzo Indian: A sound opening with very good reputation. I don't play it myself so I cannot say much about it. He does allow it virtually every time, so that won't be an issue.

Repertoire Explorer: Yury Shulman (white) Repertoire Explorer: Yury Shulman (white)

Openings other than these do not deserve serious consideration in my opinion. That includes the dutch.

That said, we should consider doing an opening survey somewhere to find out what might likely occur.

The reason to me not adding diagrams to every opening was partially due to his early deviations making it an unnecessary effort (I had to copy node numbers from the Opening Explorer to browse Shulmans repertoire) I hope this will help as many as possible and not disappear unread from the front page

Jun-05-08  kwid: Jun-05-08 << isemeria >: There's a little problem with this kind of preparation, namely that it will be difficult to implement in the voting format. >>

Yes you are right. My nativity for team play let me believe that I could change opinions to adopt a strategy best suitable to forge out a win against GAN. Where the best approach has been determined by RYBKA proof lines which hopefully reach beyond GAN's horizon. My attempt to start a pre game preparation was to weed out our biases based on individual preferences and get on board with a design what we collectively belief is the key to exploit GAN's weaknesses if they can be identified.

Jun-05-08  benjinathan: Nickel losses with white in the cg database:

Reti
Old Indian
English
Neo Grunfeld
Dutch Leningrad
KID
Torre Attack
Slav
KID
Benoni

Jun-05-08  kwid: Jun-05-08
< benjinathan: >
Very interesting. But the questions remain about the QID as the team played against Shulman with 12...f5 line.

How would GAN allow to play this line again?
Are we willing to repeat it?
What did the post game analysis come up with?
Are there improvements for the white side?

BTW looking at the 12...f5 discussions it gave me a better understanding of our team members position assessments ability in light of some very persuasive arguments in support of pro and cons.

Jun-05-08
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  chancho: I know, I know, psychology in correspondence chess is none too effective according to some people's point of view. But Nickel will be very motivated to win this rematch, (since he lost the first game) so perhaps we can use this to our advantage. An opening where we can play actively and which he does not play too often against, might work in our favor. Just my two cents...
Jun-05-08  Red October: against 1.d4 there is the Classical Dutch, I can post a few lines, but has GMAN faced this before ?
Jun-05-08  whiteshark: Approved solid mainlines, whichever, it makes no difference to me. Learning by team-playing!
Jun-05-08
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  Tabanus: <whiteshark: Approved solid mainlines>

Can 10.a4 (GMAN game), 12...f5 (GMYS) and 8.Qb3 (GMJT) be considered "solid mainline"? If ...

Jun-05-08  whiteshark: <Tabanus: Can 10.a4 (GMAN game), 12...f5 (GMYS) and 8.Qb3 (GMJT) be considered "solid mainline"?>

YES!, er NO!!! I mean they could be considered as solid until we moved 10.a4 (GMAN game), 12...f5 (GMYS) and 8.Qb3 (GMJT). :D

At least no Grob/Borg, no doubious Gambits and no "Hey, I've won a few blitz games with this interesting opening"-lines etc and so on :D

Jun-06-08  isemeria: <Tabanus: <whiteshark: Approved solid mainlines>

Can 10.a4 (GMAN game), 12...f5 (GMYS) and 8.Qb3 (GMJT) be considered "solid mainline"?>

IMO, <10. a4> (GMAN 1) was one of the playable moves, perhaps not the best in that position. <12...f5> (GMYS) was a good move, well thought deviation from mostly played lines. This is an example how the team can work productively and creatively. And there was a sound positional basis for the move.

<8. Qb3> (GMT) then... I don't know what to think about it. The team was somewhat obsessed by the urge to deviate. Lots of the usual nonsense about how we must deviate before GMT plays a stunning novelty he has prepared. Also some hopes for complications perhaps (?).

Jun-06-08  isemeria: I too believe we should aim for "solid mainlines". And to a position rich enough with possibilities. (Which means partly the same thing, that's why they are the major openings).

More specifically, I suggest aiming for the Nimzo-Indian. It's theoretical status is fine, and it should be complicated enough to give possibilities - to both colours. If GMAN is playing for the win, he might choose 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 <3. Nc3> instead of <3. Nf3>. According to CG database he has mostly played the Classical variation <4. Qc2> when our first major decicion would be on the 4th move.


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Of course he can choose another variation (Rubinstein, Samisch, 4. Nf3), but they all are fine starting points for a good battle.

And then we need to accept that it's White privilege to chooce to enter the Nimzo or "decline" it by <3. Nf3>. And prepare the opening choice against that too.

Jun-06-08  isemeria: My approach in this case is more "play the board, not the man". I don't know if GMAN's weaknesses can be indentified or used against him. But if we can get a complex position with equal chances I think we'll be fine.

I'm sure there will be team members supporting the KID with the same argument and it makes sense to me too.

Jun-06-08  hoodrobin: Don't forget <Hugin's lesson> (from main page). That is, If I understand it correctly, to play for open positions.
Jun-06-08  isemeria: I do remember Hugin's lesson, but disagree with it. The Team is able to play closed and semi-closed positions well too.

It's too dogmatic and simplified view of the opening challenges.

Jun-06-08  whiteshark: I agree with <isemeria>!

For me it's only a assertion without substance.

And there are better guiding principles how to find good moves in the opening/middlegame.

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