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| Aug-13-18 | | technical draw: < jessicafischerqueen:
<Edwin Miejer> I also have a lifetime membership. I can help here. If cg.com goes 404 this is what we can expect: -$350 US funds>
I haven't left yet and already someone is trying to grab the comic limelight! |
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Aug-13-18
 | | Edwin Meijer: <jessicafischerqueen: I also have a lifetime membership. I can help here. If cg.com goes 404 this is what we can expect: -$350 US funds> So how does that work? Who can i turn to?And again, i'm really sorry, i hate turning someone's death into money issues. |
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Aug-13-18
 | | Yorkshire Fog: <Tiggler> I agree that ephemera are not vital, but Sinquefield is a premier tournament featuring both World Champion and Challenger in a WCC year, and will surely need to be in a future archive. Today's news is tomorrow's history after all. |
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Aug-13-18
| | Edwin Meijer: <Yorkshire Fog> I could be wrong, but somehow i think there wont be live coverages anymore for some time, and that probably includes coverage of the upcoming world championship. |
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Aug-13-18
| | Yorkshire Fog: <Edwin Meijer> I hope you're wrong, but live coverage is less important than a proper Tournament Page, which I think can only be set up by CG Staff. |
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Aug-13-18
| | Edwin Meijer: <Yorkshire Fog: <Edwin Meijer> I hope you're wrong, but live coverage is less important than a proper Tournament Page, which I think can only be set up by CG Staff.> well i think the two go hand in hand, so... |
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| Aug-13-18 | | jith1207: <Edwin Meijer>: in case of site shutting down, normally the company is expected to refund the amount within a month or so. You can check the consumer forums. In case it goes 404 and you didn't get refunded, you can raise consumer complaint against chessgames LLC. I am sure there would be lot of fellow members, who can connect through Facebook groups or other channels to discuss before raising a joint complaint or legal enforcement in worst case. Good to discuss about such implications now. It might be wise to agree on a channel now with interested users and start a social media group to connect if required later? Regarding the tournament page, there might not be a tournament page for upcoming events like Sinquefield Cup unless <Sargon> is able to get hold of that task this week. But World Championship is full three months ahead and I would expect the admins to get it right much sooner. We would be thinking too far ahead and worrying too much, if we say now that we would not have a WCC tournament page. |
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Aug-13-18
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
<Edwin Mieijer> It works like this: you lose your $350 and there is no way you can ever get it back. |
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Aug-13-18
| | Edwin Meijer: <jessicafischerqueen> i missed the minus sign in your earlier post. Anyway, just losing $350 like that sounds a little absurd if you don't mind me saying. I just purchased it last october. |
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| Aug-13-18 | | Tiggler: Look on the bright side <Edwin>: cg.com may double the annual dues. Then you come out smelling like a rose. |
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Aug-13-18
| | Edwin Meijer: <jith1207> thank you for your answer. I'm not really a social media type of person though. I don't use facebook or the like. Where do i check the consumer forums? |
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Aug-13-18
| | Edwin Meijer: <Tiggler: Look on the bright side <Edwin>: cg.com may double the annual dues. Then you come out smelling like a rose.> yeah well, that is one of the benefits of having a lifetime membership. But that's not the issue right now, is it. |
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| Aug-13-18 | | hoodrobin: <jessicafischerqueen: you lose your $350 and there is no way you can ever get it back.>
That's ok: chess are a priceless thing. |
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| Aug-13-18 | | rogge: I might be losing $10 then. My oh my... |
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Aug-13-18
| | Edwin Meijer: This is what the terms and conditions have to say about it; <number 6. I understand that even if only a fraction of my premium membership time is used, I am not eligible for a refund on the unused portion.> <number 12 and 13. THE CHESSGAMES.COM SITE AND ITS CONTENT ARE PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY, THE WARRANTY OF NON-INFRINGEMENT OF THIRD PARTY RIGHTS AND THE WARRANTY OF FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THE COMPANY DOES NOT WARRANT THAT THIS SITE WILL OPERATE ERROR-FREE OR WITHOUT INTERRUPTION. IF THE USE OF THIS SITE OR ITS CONTENT RESULTS IN THE NEED FOR REPLACING OR SERVICING MY COMPUTER EQUIPMENT, SOFTWARE, DATA OR OTHER PROPERTY, THE COMPANY IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE COSTS. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COMPANY, ITS OFFICERS OR DIRECTORS, EMPLOYEES AND AGENTS, BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES RESULTING FROM THE USE OR INABILITY TO USE THE SITE AND ITS MATERIALS, WHETHER BASED ON WARRANTY, CONTRACT, TORT, OR ANY OTHER LEGAL THEORY, AND WHETHER OR NOT THE COMPANY IS ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES).> |
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Aug-13-18
| | jessicafischerqueen: Not looking good <Edwin Meijer>. On the bright side, I think cg.com will continue for many years, and we can enjoy our lifetime memberships. |
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Aug-13-18
| | jessicafischerqueen:
Hoot! Hoot!
<Hoot Robin> long time no see!! |
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Aug-13-18
| | Edwin Meijer: <jessicafischerqueen:
Not looking good <Edwin Meijer>.On the bright side, I think cg.com will continue for many years, and we can enjoy our lifetime memberships.> that sounds reassuring :-)I hope it will. Internet won't be the same without it. |
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| Aug-13-18 | | jith1207: <Edwin Meijer>: I think the esteemed users are making fun of your question in most depressing way. Federal Trade Commission might be the best place to start in case of not getting refund: https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/featur... There would be lot of discussion forums online where people pose a question regarding their complaints and interested people and experts might advise the best course of action. You can Google using different terms and find out suitable place. I'm sure a similar case like this would have been discussed online with fair example of precedents. One such forum is this: http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/disc... I'm not a social media person as well, but if there ever is a proper use of such, wouldn't it be the best place to find lost chessgames users if the site had to stop being operational? You can always create a social media account anonymously and we are here in a primitive social media forum created in the advent of internet, which evolved into different concepts like we have available in the market now. |
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Aug-13-18
 | | OhioChessFan: jith, he ain't getting a refund. It's laughable-hence the jokes-to think he would. |
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| Aug-13-18 | | zanzibar: <<Tiggler> This thread, for example, is a place where technical issues used to be raised but there are almost none mentioned recently.> I wish we could talk about technical issues here again. But it might take a day or two more. It's a coming - but till then, it's kinda absurd to suggest. I think there's a lot of legitimate, non-technical discussion to be had. |
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| Aug-13-18 | | Caissanist: I wouldn't expect technical issues to be discussed much here for a while yet. <Sargon> inherited a less-than-polished code base, and he is obviously taking some time to figure out what's going on under the hood. That's what you do when you inherit a big pile of spaghetti legacy code--you don't change anything until you can be very very sure that your new changes won't have any unexpected side effects. |
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| Aug-13-18 | | zanzibar: Technical challenges...
1) Root access - it all starts here.
2) User suspensions - the hammer.
3) Live games - like <twinlark> said, it's a car horn endlessly horning. 4) PotD, GotD, PotD - as someone smartly mentioned, this could just be hacked to resynch with some old year in the past (2007?) to synch up for a good while. Eventually, volunteers could preload selections on a weekly or monthly basis. 5) Adding new tournaments, and once again implementing a Live Game. Of course, the major job is to right the ship - so that old and new users feel secure about renewing or joining. To repeat myself, periodic updates by the admin would go a long way in this department. Just my 2c. |
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| Aug-13-18 | | Tiggler: <But that's not the issue right now, is it.> So what exactly is the issue, <Edwin>? To me it seems that the site is running quite smoothly, apart from a few people acting as if it is an uneasy cease fire in a Middle Eastern war zone. If that's what you think: do the obvious and scurry out trying to get some groceries while you have the chance. |
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| Aug-13-18 | | zanzibar: <Tiggler> "scurry out"?! Can't you be a bit more, er, diplomatic?
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