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Dec-30-09
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  chessgames.com: Also, somebody was asking about 2009-2010 Bundesliga -- that page has been vastly updated now with the new December games and a few previous ones that we missed.
Dec-30-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: <YouRang> <expand on the "Favorites" feature so that you can have multiple lists of "favorites", each with a different color. In fact, rather than call it "favorites", I should use a more generic name like "user groups", and allow each user to assign a name to each 'user group'.>

That's a very interesting idea.

About the name "Favorites", boy, we've invested too much into that word to abandon it, even though from your description it obviously could be used for people who are far from favored. (Should "black" be a permissible background color? You'd have to select the person's text to be able to read it.)

Maybe the tool would simply be called the "User Color" feature. The idea is that anybody on your Favorites List can be given a special color of your choosing. It's important that people who don't care about this can just not bother, and see everybody in their default color, just like they do now. But for those fastidious souls who want to organize people into color-coded groups, this is exactly the tool they need. We would even let these people sort their list by color, so they can see the groupings clearly.

We'd also include these colors in the My Favorites Page page, making it even more powerful.

We hardly need to change a thing to implement this. The hardest part is to make the interface that lets you paint users the color you want. I suppose to keep it simple we would offer a list of colors to choose from, and it would be fun for us to deciding what colors to include. (Don't worry, we'll give you "black".)

Anyhow, thanks for the idea, we may very well expand upon the coloration idea more. It sounds like a very simple tool that could be used by people to great effect.

Dec-30-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: <zarg: Sometimes when posting e.g. tables of data, I would like to keep spaces i.e. avoid <cg> from replacing multiple spaces with a single one ... and use a font like e.g. <new courier> which preserve column alignment of the displayed text. Also turn off special display rules when and <> is used would be nice...>

We understand that issue. We've tried to present tabular data ourselves and know what it feels like trying to fight against the weird formatting rules that we don't even fully understand.

<Is there a way to achieve this, for example by enclosing the posted text in some special tags>

Sadly, no. We've experimented in the past with ways to do this, in fact somewhere in this chessforum there was a special post I made which attempted to break into fixed-width bare bones layout. It looked great on my monitor but failed on several others, some users thought "Wow, they fixed it!" while others saw a garbled mess of characters. That's basically the reason why we don't go in this direction: compatibility.

In short, we have a very flexible kibitzing system, but flexible is NOT what you want when you wish to display tabular data. It's so flexible in fact that anything but the most trivial table would be guaranteed to not display properly on many people's machines. We haven't given up on the notion of table-display entirely (the need for it continually crops up) -- but on the other hand we're not working on the kibitzing module at this time.

Dec-30-09  jackpawn: Okay, I'm a dummy when it comes to computers, but I have a technical question. Recently I got a new netbook and now I can't access the games on this site. Get a message stating that it's blocked because it doesn't know the source of the ActiveX add-on. How do I correct this?
Dec-30-09  zanshin: <jackpawn> Make sure you have the latest version of Java installed. http://www.java.com/en/ The chess vewiers are java applets.
Dec-30-09  YouRang: <chessgames.com> Thank you for giving consideration to my idea. I'm glad to hear that it might not be any huge development effort.

One other little idea: Perhaps a color choice could be "invisible", which would make posts from the associated users disappear completely. In otherwords, the 'favorites' feature would be married to the 'ignore' feature.

If you don't like this idea, I wouldn't be surprised, given that the ignore feature has been around for a long time and changing things always opens a can of worms -- but there it is.

Thanks again, and have a happy New Year!

Dec-30-09  jackpawn: <zanshin> Thank you very much! Installing your java link did the trick. It's the one bright point in what has been a very #@!% day (don't ask). Thanks again.
Dec-30-09  zanshin: <jackpawn> Ok, glad it worked - and I won't ask ;-) Happy New Year though!
Dec-30-09  jackpawn: Happy New year to you too.
Dec-30-09  MostlyAverageJoe: < chessgames.com: ... somewhere in this chessforum there was a special post I made which attempted to break into fixed-width bare bones layout >

This one: chessgames.com chessforum

It is possible to approximate the table layout with normal text, though. Here's my try. Looks OK-ish in Safari on my Mac, with Verdana font, but I won't be surprised if it turns out to be garbage in other browsers or with font overrides.

Rank    Name                       Country   Rating

   ---    ----------------            -------     ------

    1     Anand, Viswanathan       IND    2792

    2     Topalov, Veselin            BUL    2769

    3     Kramnik, Vladimir          RUS   2769

    4     Ivanchuk, Vassily           UKR   2762

    5     Morozevich, Alexander    RUS   2758

    6     Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar AZE   2757

    7     Leko, Peter                   HUN   2751

    8     Aronian, Levon              ARM   2750

    9     Radjabov, Teimour         AZE   2746

    10   Jakovenko, Dmitry         RUS   2735

But it is a major pain in the posterior, and does not come out perfect -- I gave up on getting the countries aligned better than they are. See the HTML source to see how it was done. The basic idea is to explore different widths of a space and a nonbreaking space to adjust the positions. As I said, a major pain.

Dec-31-09  MostlyAverageJoe: Yeah. Looks like garbage in IE.
Dec-31-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: MostlyAverageJoe, first thanks for finding that post, that's exactly the one we referred to. Second, what an amazing job you did hand-crafting that table. It must have taken you an hour!

Anyhow, the real point is that these kibitzing elements are going to be stretched and stuffed into all sorts of shapes. We are already working on a very Blackberry-Friendly view of Chessgames and the iPhone is in our crosshairs as well. As narrow as these kibitzing columns are, we have to be prepared for them to get still more narrow.

We will always have to have enough horizontal space to accommodate one of these:


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But beyond that, everything needs to be squeezable in a left-right sense. That flies in the face of any attempt to allow people to make nicely formatted table layouts. We wish we had a "perfect compromise" to offer, some sort of restricted table that can't get too wide but still would be a thousand times better than resorting to the technique that MostlyAverageJoe did above. But we don't; it's not an issue we're currently tackling.

Dec-31-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: Here's another small test sort of like the last one; this time instead of FIDE ratings it's a poem by ee cummings with a bizarre indentation style.

since feeling is first
who pays any attention
to the syntax of things
will never wholly kiss you;
   wholly to be a fool
   while Spring is in the world

my blood approves,
and kisses are a better fate
                        than wisdom
lady i swear by all flowers.   Don't cry
  —the best gesture of my brain is less than
your eyelids' flutter which says

we are for each other: then
laugh, leaning back in my arms
   for life's not a paragraph

     And death i think is no parenthesis
Dec-31-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: Offhand the previous post passed all the major tests (MSIE, Firefox, Chrome on XP/Windows7, also Mac Safari and Mac Firefox seem OK). But don't get too excited, it's still eons from being able to be used.
Dec-31-09  achieve: Ceegee - were you aware of the GRONINGEN CHESS FESTIVAL ?

Please upload the (1) Timman-van Kampen games, and fix the "van Kampen issue" in the directory (see last page in my forum).

Besides that I think the top games of the (2) A-group are wort uploading.

T-vK: http://www.schaakstadgroningen.nl/i...

A-group: http://www.schaakstadgroningen.nl/i...

Dec-31-09  achieve: <cg> Just hours prior to 2010 I forget to wish you Best Wishes for 2010.

Apologies and Best Wishes from me to you.

Dec-31-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: Here you go: Groningen Chess Festival (2009) and also Groningen Chess Festival Match (2009).

Hearty congratulations to Illya Nyzhnyk who, by the way, was dubbed "Baby New Year" on January 1st 2009 GOTD. I suppose our prediction came true!

Dec-31-09  achieve: Haha! Beyond weird (and fast!), but brilliant, thanks.

"Baby New Year"

hehe

Dec-31-09  technical draw: Hey, <chessgames.com>, thank you for another year of chess fun, serious chess, and non-chess related joy. My hopes for a very happy and prosperous new year for all chessgames.com owners, employees and hangers on. Happy 2010! (well, I think you will still have to put up with me for another year).
Dec-31-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Domdaniel: <CG> You guys work wonders keeping this site up to date and still multi-platform friendly. I was stuck with an old, sick laptop over Xmas -- chessgames.com worked perfectly even when other sites turned to gibberish. I even won a few competition prizes using what Mr Spock once called "stone knives and bearskins".

Now, back on a proper computer, I tried out Guess-the-move for the first time. Superb feature, much more sophisticated than I'd anticipated. (Meaning: I got a fairly good score...)

As you say, the daily puzzle is a key part of the new user interface, and there's no point in expecting it to do party tricks. But Guess-the-move satisfies the very needs that some people are looking for.

The multi-colour idea sounds great too.

Happy new year.

Dec-31-09  zanshin: <Domdaniel> I agree about the Guess-the-Move feature - it's what first convinced me to sign up for Premium membership. It has changed since it was introduced.

<CG> I read the rules again and spotted a minor typo at Guess-the-Move Help Page

The Opening Selector - This is <indended> for people to want to rapidly test themselves on book knowledge of certain openings.

Jan-01-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Peligroso Patzer: There appears to be an error in the score currently given in your database for this game: Geller vs Vasiukov, 1975.

As noted in comments posted on the above-linked page, Black's 29th move should be 29. ... Re5 (as given in Geller's book), not 29. ... Rd6.

Jan-01-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Phony Benoni: <chessgames.com> The kibitizing indicates that he's a nice guy, but did you really intend to make Julen Luis Arizmendi-Martinez Player of the Day for two days in a row, neither of which was his birthday?
Jan-01-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  tpstar: <chessgames.com> Happy New Year!

Thank you very much for running the Holiday Present Hunt. You obviously spent a great deal of time inventing clues and hints, and it was fun to play the game. I noticed a distinct trend toward more math questions and fewer computer programming scenarios, yet the off-topic ones (Inverted Jenny, royal flush, Pigpen cipher) were very cute. From previous editions, my favorites were the direct quotes from classic books, although nowadays those might be too easily Googled to work in a contest. That was also very nice how you awarded so many Santa prizes.

Best wishes for 2010 and beyond. =)

Jan-01-10  notyetagm: <CG.COM> Can we please have a forum for the upcoming <2009 World Team Championship> which starts Jan 4?

Thanks

http://wtcc2009.tsf.org.tr/

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