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Aug-29-10
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  Annie K.: <cg.com> - hi guys, heads up: I am not registered to the Chessgames Challenge: The World vs N Pogonina, 2010 game, and indeed I see no posts when I visit the page, but posts to that forum show up loud and clear on the My Favorites Page!
Aug-29-10  Team Member Advice: <cg.com> And while you're at it, I am not signed up for the World game either and yet I can read the most recent comments on the <recent kibitzing> page.
Aug-29-10  technical draw: <... but posts to that forum show up loud and clear on the My Favorites Page!>

Yeah, me too. And it says 'íf you are reading this it means you have already registered for the game....

But I haven't registered yet. It must be magic....

Aug-30-10  waddayaplay: <chessgames.com> When the game type is set to CLASSICAL, RAPID or BLITZ, I think it would be useful to have that information at the top of the page, where the tournament, opening and result are located.

You could keep the message and correction link at the bottom, but at the top it should be mentioned if a game is not classical.

I noticed that all the games from Russia vs The Rest of the World (2002) are rapid, but tagged as classical. No-one has noticed that before? Should I send in a correction for each game?

Aug-31-10  whatthefat: <chessgames.com>

Just letting you know that the most recent post on the world game is currently visible from both the front page and the recent kibitzing page.

Also, linking to posts in the world game from profiles seems to not be working, i.e., when I click on the link in my profile for my most recent post there, it just takes me to the most recent page of the world game, not to my post.

Aug-31-10  Open Defence: <cg.com> I believe Peter Zdhanov is on the World Team roster, it is a conflict of interest IMHO
Aug-31-10  hms123: <OD> You beat me to it--it is clearly a conflict of interest to have User: Peter Zhdanov on the White team. He should also be barred from access to forums that have checked <Hide comments from certain GMs>.
Aug-31-10
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  chessgames.com: We will clean up some of the loopholes that allow people to see the secret kibitzing on the world team page. We seem to go through this process every team game.

About Peter Zhadanov, I'm sure his intentions were innocent but we wrote to Pogonina and explained why it's best if he is not a member. I assured her that our admins will not tolerate posts that depict our guest GM in a bad light, if that's what he was worried about.

We're sure Peter and Natalia will understand.

Aug-31-10
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  chessgames.com: <Hesam7: <CG.com> why isn't there a page for the Leko - Gelfand match? It is almost over!> We have the games, there is just no discussion forum. We can make one retroactively if there is interest in discussing the match as a whole.
Aug-31-10  Open Defence: <cg.com> I hope Mr Zdhanov is likewise respectful to his opponents
Aug-31-10  Hesam7: <chessgames.com: <Hesam7: <CG.com> why isn't there a page for the Leko - Gelfand match? It is almost over!> We have the games, there is just no discussion forum. We can make one retroactively if there is interest in discussing the match as a whole.>

Beside the discussion, isn't it nice to have a page for the tournament for the sake of consistency and continuity? All the past versions of the rapid match have their own page.

Aug-31-10  acirce: <Peter Zhdanov> is STILL on the team. Looks like he rejoined, incredibly enough. Maybe you have to ban him for good.
Aug-31-10  acirce: ...or we'd just have to tolerate him since, as you say, strictly speaking it doesn't violate any rules. But it would obviously be pretty ridiculous. I for one wouldn't be motivated to put much effort in the game.
Aug-31-10  dakgootje: I do have to second <acirce> here.

One of the few things I learned from ethics classes -especially cases with conflicting interests- is that situations can arise which are ethically very complicated going down some narrow winding road. The advice given was simple: If you want to avoid these situations, then your best bet is trying to stear clear from even the grey areas.

Undoubtedly, such is the case here. Having Mr Zdhanov - and even potential sock-puppets - removed from the World-page and barred from analysing forums clearly appears to be the most logical option.

Aug-31-10  YouRang: Maybe out of curiosity, he just wanted to see if he would be prevented from rejoining, but (perhaps to his surprise) he was allowed back in?

(Giving the benefit of the doubt.)

Aug-31-10  rapidcitychess: Are we going to have another Battle of the Brains soon? Please?
Sep-01-10  notyetagm: <CG.COM> Is user <DarkNolan> really Gata Kamsky????

User: DarkNolan

Thanks

Sep-01-10  dakgootje: <notyetagm>

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<yourang: Giving the benefit of the doubt.>

Certainly, immediately expecting fool-play would be a little too paranoid. I simply hope he is barred from the GM-blocked forums as well - otherwise there is little use throwing him off the World-team.

We'll have to trust in the admins to make good decisions :)

Sep-01-10  dakgootje: oh, scrap that previous comment [the part where I said 'as well']; I thought mr. Zhdanov was moved off the team once more, but on a second glance: he isn't.
Sep-01-10  dakgootje: I really am sorry for this post-avalanche -which I am sure you will delete if it bothers- but, erm, could you double-check the time of your server with some official atomic clock?

I checked mine with http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Ea... and it was some 2 seconds off <however> the clock running at the Chessgames Challenge was off by about 6 minutes. Especially with close-finishes you will agree this can make all the difference.

Thanks in advance!

Sep-01-10
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  moronovich: <notyetagm> Yes,<Dark Nolan> IS Gata Kamsky.

Quite a privellege,isn´t it !?

Sep-01-10  zarg: <cg.com: About Peter Zhadanov, I'm sure his intentions were innocent>

Of course, we have no reason to believe otherwise. In fact, as long as the match is open for non-premium members, there is no problem sneaking in anyway.

So, I've no problems with Peter Zhadanov openly being on the white team like that. If doing something consistent here, the match can't be open for non-premium members, else enforcing a policy, would just kidding ourselves anyway.

Sep-01-10  dakgootje: <there is no problem sneaking in anyway.>

Ah, but, you see, the problem is not that simple. Of course, there are ways to see the discussion for our opponents; they can make anonymous accounts or even if they'd be ip-barred, then they could use a different computer or ask a friend or whatever. That part is simply the honor of our opponents.

Instead, the implications stretch farther. <> Some might be inclined to work less hard for the team for instance. <> Or suppose we would lose, that would be unexpected after this great streak against supreme opposition - I will bet you a good penny a large part will be blamed on presumed spying on mr Zhdanov's part. <> Or suppose we would find an extremely deep and brilliant move and against all assumptions mrs. Pogonina finds the only brilliant defense; do you think there would not be a great many tongues claiming she cheated by spying on our calculations?

I could come up with more situations, but the idea should be clear: if things go south, fingers will be pointed and they shall point in the direction of Mr. Zhdanov - regardless of whether he is innocent or not.

But every action comes at a price, so what do we lose by removing him? Now that is a good question.. I, with all due respect, doubt a valued team-member.

<> This is not a question of whether they will spy -they are able if they want to- for that is simply up to their honor and integrity. It is a question of what the implications are of people seeing mr. Zhdanov in the team-roster.

Sep-01-10  YouRang: <dakggotje> Well said.
Sep-02-10  zarg: <if things go south, fingers will be pointed and they shall point in the direction of Mr. Zhdanov - regardless of whether he is innocent or not.>

People think differently, and there are always some bad losers around.

IMO, by Zhadanov doing this openly and being aware that we know about it, makes me feel safer there will be fair play. :)

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