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Jun-18-12
 | | Stonehenge: I prefer <FIDE player card> and to have the link just below <Search Google>. <Note that it is a priority to us that the end-user is perfectly aware that clicking this link will cause them to leave Chessgames. That's why the ".com" is somewhat important to us.> But it also says <Search Google>, not <Search Google.com>. |
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Jun-18-12
 | | Annie K.: Either <FIDE player card> or <FIDE card> works well for me. I don't like the .com version, because it may be the domain name, but it's not the name of the organization. I'd say that, .com or no .com, it's fairly clear that clicking this link would mean leaving cg FIDEwards. ;) Locationwise, I like the small link after the last rating (same line). This is like saying, here's some FIDE data on the player, if you want to know more, go to the source - very natural. :) |
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Jun-18-12
 | | chessgames.com: <Stonehenge: I prefer <FIDE player card> and to have the link just below <Search Google>> Not a bad idea. Go back to our initial position on it. <But it also says <Search Google>, not <Search Google.com>> Well, everybody knows what Google is. Or if they don't, we're doing them a favor by showing them that the internet contains more than just Chessgames ;-) |
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Jun-18-12
 | | Phony Benoni: FIDE itself uses <FIDE Chess Profile>. That's not bad, but seems to imply a narrative. Of the choices you present I prefer <FIDE Player Card>; it implies a brief summary in which more than rating information is provided. Speaking as a computer layperson, I find the additon of ".com" to be confusing and unnecessary. But if it's necessary for some reason, so be it. I think the current location, underneath the FIDE rating, is a logical place to display it. It was harder to spot in the Google area, not to mention having to scroll down. |
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| Jun-18-12 | | Benzol: <I see a problem that you were probably trying to point out to me but I was too dense to understand what you were getting at. Poor Mr. Taylor does have a FIDE rating, but we can't see it, and what's worse there's no link to his card where we would be able to see it.> Yes, that was it exactly. Sorry if it wasn't clear the way I put it. And I think I prefer <FIDE player card> for the link but this is just a personal preference. |
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| Jun-18-12 | | twinlark: My tuppence:
I like <FIDE player card> without the ".com" also. I'm sure most people would realise they are leaving chessgames.com (how can they not?), but even if they don't, is that a problem? They'll learn that it is sooner or later and I can't see there are any especially bad consequences if a couple of people are temporarily confused. I vote for <FIDE player card> in the current location after <Last FIDE rating>. |
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| Jun-18-12 | | twinlark: I nearly forgot to mention that the Russian Championship has started. |
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| Jun-18-12 | | Benzol: BTW is the link problem something that has to be fixed on a case by case basis? I was just looking at Winston Yao to see if the problem was something that could be fixed in a blanket fashion. Sorry to be a nuisance about this. |
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Jun-19-12
 | | Richard Taylor: <CG.com> How dare you accuse me of being a minor!! I have played some of the most brilliantly terrible games known to humankind!! My blunders have reached the ears of such as ..well, Petrovic (admittedly an unknown but he once got fools mate against GM Shockalov (who, admittedly was rather inebriated));...but I hear that such as Kramnik, Anand, Topalov himself and even Kasparov's trainee Carlsen have paid attention to some of my opening blund-I mean- innovations....... <Benzol> Don't mention Winston Yao!!! |
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| Jun-19-12 | | frogbert: <chessgames.com>
here's a suggestion that's very easy to implement and which i think would make site manouvering quicker and more convenient for many: * make the <Earlier Kibitzing> and <Later Kibitzing> links take us to the *top of the kibitzing area* of the previous/next page. looking at the html source i noticed that the link-anchor is already in place, hence adding #kibitzing to the links is all it takes. in particular for certain user forums where the owner has 10+ screenfulls of stuff in his/her profile section, this would be a big time saver when browsing the kibitzing, but it would also come in handy for most player pages. please, pretty please? :o) |
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| Jun-19-12 | | YouRang: <frogbert> Brilliant minds think alike. I made the same suggestion almost exactly five years ago (June 28 2007). Perhaps things have changed -- Good luck. :-) |
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Jun-19-12
| | chessgames.com: < make the <Earlier Kibitzing> and <Later Kibitzing> links take us to the *top of the kibitzing area* of the previous/next page.> Brilliant! Sorry YouRang. You may end up like Alexander Cartwright here (the guy who really invented baseball but gets no credit for it!) |
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Jun-19-12
| | chessgames.com: <Benzol: BTW is the link problem something that has to be fixed on a case by case basis? I was just looking at Winston Yao to see if the problem was something that could be fixed in a blanket fashion. Sorry to be a nuisance about this.> No no no, this is not a manual effort (beyond the typing in of FIDE numbers.) Winston is in the same boat as Richard. Regard it as a very temporary glitch. The hard part is over; now we've gotten down to questions of presentation. |
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| Jun-19-12 | | YouRang: <chessgames.com><Sorry YouRang. You may end up like Alexander Cartwright here (the guy who really invented baseball but gets no credit for it!)> No problem. You are welcome to implement this and other brilliant suggestions I've made, and assign credit as you please. But if I ever decide to change my avatar, perhaps I'll use a pic of Cartwright. :-) |
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Jun-19-12
| | Stonehenge: <CG> I entered Darwin Yang 's FIDE number three days ago, but I still don't see the link. And I just entered the FIDE numbers for Juan Ramon Rodriguez Fernandez and Evaristo Fernandez Rodriguez but I don't see the links. Is that because the names on the cards are slightly different from their names here? |
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Jun-19-12
| | chessgames.com: <make the <Earlier Kibitzing> and <Later Kibitzing> links take us to the *top of the kibitzing area* of the previous/next page.> Does it work? On the face of it everything seems fine; we're testing "Jump to page #" and the "favorites-mode: ON" type settings to see if there are unintended consequences, but so far it seems to work great. |
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| Jun-20-12 | | MORPHYEUS: I don't normally post here, but it's working now CG. |
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Jun-20-12
| | chessgames.com: Thanks <MORPHYEUS> By the way, we've made a decision regarding the phrasing and location of the FIDE player cards. We're going to call them "FIDE player cards" and the links will be down by the Google link and nowhere else. (Temporarily you might be seeing two links on some players. That should cause less consternation than temporarily seeing zero links on some players.) But the real exciting things with the FIDE IDs are going on behind the scenes. For instance, most sanctioned FIDE events these days are in the habit of including "WhiteFideID" and "BlackFideID" in the PGN. In the past, without those IDs in our database, we've been forced to ignore those ID numbers. No longer! Now, if a FIDE number is in the PGN we have a fingerprint on the player in question, without any reason to worry about transliteration issues etc. You'll even be able to use these tags on files you submit to our PGN Upload Utility. One small request: if you use these tags, please get them right! |
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Jun-20-12
| | Annie K.: <cg: <...and the links will be down by the Google link and nowhere else.>> Heheh - that sounds quite... assertive! ;D |
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| Jun-20-12 | | twinlark: Hi <ceegee>
In case you're interested, the 16th Voronezh International Chess Festival 2012 is winding up and has the usual fun run field of several dozen Russian, Ukrainian and Belarussian GMs: http://translate.google.com.au/tran... Also the Pula Open in Croatia is being held. The PGNs are available for this and the previous opens. It also has a reasonably impressive battery of GMs and IMs contesting the event: http://translate.google.com.au/tran... |
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| Jun-21-12 | | Thanh Phan: <chessgames.com: <make the <Earlier Kibitzing> and <Later Kibitzing> links take us to the *top of the kibitzing area* of the previous/next page.> Does it work? > It appears to work with Google Chrome 19.0.1084.56 m , Mozilla Firefox 13.0.1 , yet with Internet Explorer 9 it appears to send to prior page above the kibitzing section, showing instead the section where the user profile kibitzed # of times. |
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| Jun-21-12 | | Open Defence: works in safari on my mac |
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Jun-21-12
 | | WannaBe: I think the #kibitzing tag needs to be moved further down in the code of the page. I am getting 3/4 page of the past kibitz'n (forum) list, and the bottom 1/4 of my web page is displaying forums banner. Then I have to scroll down a bit to see the actual kibit'n. (Using IE 9) |
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Jun-21-12
| | chessgames.com: You know, on your Menu Configuration Page you can enable a link that says "Kibitzing" that takes you down to the #kibitzing tag. (More formally called an "anchor".) There's a well known bug among browsers that occurs when the browser cannot scroll to the proper anchor point simply because there isn't enough "stuff" at the bottom of the page, below the anchor, to allow for that. Some HTML authors "solve" this bug by putting a huge chunk of white-space at the end of each page. I doubt however that's the problem any of you are witnessing, as CG has no shortage of "stuff at the bottom" to prevent that kind of bug. |
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Jun-21-12
| | WannaBe: Bottom feeders... =)) |
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